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So now in the rain doesnt matter what insulation your gear have... whats the point of insulation now?
My question for developers of Dayz is for what is insulation now if you get "worst insulation" when the rain comes. getting a fresh spawn gear or getting the "best insulation" gear is the same now because none of them will protect you being "worst insulation" when rains, and the insulation for gear is exactally for weather adversities like rain. :steamfacepalm:
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Schizo_Survivor Nov 5, 2024 @ 4:00pm 
Some clothing is waterproof and can only get "damp" leaving its insulation status unaffected. Firefighter's clothing, raincoats, wellies, witch's hood.
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Coffee Nov 5, 2024 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by Schizo_Survivor:
Some clothing is waterproof and can only get "damp" leaving its insulation status unaffected. Firefighter's clothing, raincoats, wellies, witch's hood.
Patrol clothing too.
Schizo_Survivor Nov 5, 2024 @ 4:35pm 
Originally posted by Coffee:
Originally posted by Schizo_Survivor:
Some clothing is waterproof and can only get "damp" leaving its insulation status unaffected. Firefighter's clothing, raincoats, wellies, witch's hood.
Patrol clothing too.

There is also water resistant clothing. Water resistant like certain boots, plate carrier, can only get wet instead of waterproof which only gets damp. A good example of water resistant and waterproof comparisons would be the hunter backpack (water resistant) vs drybag (waterproof).
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FloppyDoppy Nov 5, 2024 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Schizo_Survivor:
Some clothing is waterproof and can only get "damp" leaving its insulation status unaffected. Firefighter's clothing, raincoats, wellies, witch's hood.

who uses that further in game? with space for one bottle of water? Firefighter gear seems ok but you can spot a firefighter geared player from miles, there are very few cloths you can use further in game to have decent space that are waterproof but my point is why some are "best insulation" when they literally do the same as "low insulation" cloths, if you fill your body with "low insulation" cloths you dont get cold, best insulation do the same or you just get hot but theres no point in get hot when you just need to have the avarage temperature so theres no difference now between "low insulation" or "best insulation" they both work the same when the weather condition is raining all the day and you get "worst insulation" in both of the types of insulation unless is waterproof, maybe for the snow of sakhal map, the rest is useless and its the exact same thing.
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Coffee Nov 5, 2024 @ 5:19pm 
I agree I only use firefighter gear early when I can't get access to anything else for the reason you mentioned and they are very heavy. That might not matter early when you don't have any gear but it hurts you when you have a plate and multiple rifles.
This is why I often choose patrol clothes. They might not be the highest insulation but they never get worse because they can only get damp. I trade off some insulation for water resistance. On namalsk the sumrak and yeger clothes have even higher insulation as well as water resistance.
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FloppyDoppy Nov 5, 2024 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by Coffee:
I agree I only use firefighter gear early when I can't get access to anything else for the reason you mentioned and they are very heavy. That might not matter early when you don't have any gear but it hurts you when you have a plate and multiple rifles.
This is why I often choose patrol clothes. They might not be the highest insulation but they never get worse because they can only get damp. I trade off some insulation for water resistance. On namalsk the sumrak and yeger clothes have even higher insulation and water resistance.

I mean firefighter gear is great for early game I use them many times, later in game I just try to repalce because its a glitter spot in the middle of a black board to get spoted. I believe the Patrol cloths will be probably the best gear for rain and people will look for it more than ever when they realise this. But ye the gear now doesnt really matter if its "best insulation" anymore. I think they should add something new gear to balance a bit better the game considering raining is the meal of the day on Dayz.
Last edited by FloppyDoppy; Nov 5, 2024 @ 5:27pm
Schizo_Survivor Nov 5, 2024 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by FloppyDoppy:
Originally posted by Schizo_Survivor:
Some clothing is waterproof and can only get "damp" leaving its insulation status unaffected. Firefighter's clothing, raincoats, wellies, witch's hood.

who uses that further in game? with space for one bottle of water? Firefighter gear seems ok but you can spot a firefighter geared player from miles, there are very few cloths you can use further in game to have decent space that are waterproof but my point is why some are "best insulation" when they literally do the same as "low insulation" cloths, if you fill your body with "low insulation" cloths you dont get cold, best insulation do the same or you just get hot but theres no point in get hot when you just need to have the avarage temperature so theres no difference now between "low insulation" or "best insulation" they both work the same when the weather condition is raining all the day and you get "worst insulation" in both of the types of insulation unless is waterproof, maybe for the snow of sakhal map, the rest is useless and its the exact same thing.

You asked what is the point of insulation in clothing given how water now interactions with insulation level. I provided an answer to this question. Did you ask me who uses firefighter clothing into late stages of the game? No. Do not move the goalpost, please. Also, it has far more space than one bottle of water (3 slots) the firefighter coat is 24 iirc.
_KC76_ Nov 5, 2024 @ 6:16pm 
I've never had "best" insulation gear drop below "medium" insulation when completely soaked .. like after swimming soaked .. sounds like a skill issue, idk, maybe wring out your clothes and repair them more often.
FloppyDoppy Nov 5, 2024 @ 6:45pm 
Originally posted by Schizo_Survivor:
Originally posted by FloppyDoppy:

who uses that further in game? with space for one bottle of water? Firefighter gear seems ok but you can spot a firefighter geared player from miles, there are very few cloths you can use further in game to have decent space that are waterproof but my point is why some are "best insulation" when they literally do the same as "low insulation" cloths, if you fill your body with "low insulation" cloths you dont get cold, best insulation do the same or you just get hot but theres no point in get hot when you just need to have the avarage temperature so theres no difference now between "low insulation" or "best insulation" they both work the same when the weather condition is raining all the day and you get "worst insulation" in both of the types of insulation unless is waterproof, maybe for the snow of sakhal map, the rest is useless and its the exact same thing.

You asked what is the point of insulation in clothing given how water now interactions with insulation level. I provided an answer to this question. Did you ask me who uses firefighter clothing into late stages of the game? No. Do not move the goalpost, please. Also, it has far more space than one bottle of water (3 slots) the firefighter coat is 24 iirc.

you said raincoats in the first option, I saw that thats why I awnser that, I also said Firejackets are good for early game, late game they are very easy spotable, everybody who really know play dayz know that, also, after all that you couldnt even understand my point, Im not saying theres no waterproof gear, I said its a few that you can really go trough the game, but my point is why theres some gear that have "best insulation" when they are the same as "low insulation" by not having any protection to the rain anymore, and they used to. Thats my point and you didnt understand or you didnt want to understand to give the awsner you wish to give.
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FloppyDoppy Nov 5, 2024 @ 6:49pm 
Originally posted by _KC76_:
I've never had "best" insulation gear drop below "medium" insulation when completely soaked .. like after swimming soaked .. sounds like a skill issue, idk, maybe wring out your clothes and repair them more often.

thats not true, some cloths that are "best insulation" now get "worst insulation" when soaked. And trying to say "maybe is skill isue, repair your gear" to someone with much more hours than you in the game and even if you dont know its not the smartest thing at all ...
Last edited by FloppyDoppy; Nov 5, 2024 @ 6:53pm
_KC76_ Nov 5, 2024 @ 6:53pm 
Originally posted by FloppyDoppy:
Originally posted by _KC76_:
I've never had "best" insulation gear drop below "medium" insulation when completely soaked .. like after swimming soaked .. sounds like a skill issue, idk, maybe wring out your clothes and repair them more often.

thats not true, some cloths now get "worst insulation" when soaked.
"That's not truuuuuu" ...
You said "best" clothes drop to "low" or "worst" insulation when wet ..
- I simply said I have not observed "best" clothes dropping lower than "medium" when wet ..

Are you trying to tell me that my own experience and my own eyes are "wrong" ??
FloppyDoppy Nov 5, 2024 @ 6:55pm 
Originally posted by _KC76_:
Originally posted by FloppyDoppy:

thats not true, some cloths now get "worst insulation" when soaked.
"That's not truuuuuu" ...
You said "best" clothes drop to "low" or "worst" insulation when wet ..
- I simply said I have not observed "best" clothes dropping lower than "medium" when wet ..

Are you trying to tell me that my own experience and my own eyes are "wrong" ??

ofcourse you afirmed, you also said "sounds its skill issue, maybe you should repair your gear" to someone with more 2000 hours on the game than you, wtf are you talking about? you literally afirm that by refuting my afirmation buddy and saying what I should do... now you "didnt observed" the gear getting worst insulation when raining and you cant afirm? LOL
Last edited by FloppyDoppy; Nov 5, 2024 @ 7:02pm
_KC76_ Nov 5, 2024 @ 7:01pm 
Originally posted by FloppyDoppy:
Originally posted by _KC76_:
"That's not truuuuuu" ...
You said "best" clothes drop to "low" or "worst" insulation when wet ..
- I simply said I have not observed "best" clothes dropping lower than "medium" when wet ..

Are you trying to tell me that my own experience and my own eyes are "wrong" ??

ofcourse you afirmed, you also said "maybe its skill issue, try to repair your gear" wtf are you talking about? you literally afirm that by refuting others afirmation buddy...
Do you know what the word "affirm" means?
- I suggested you repair your clothes more often, because a "best" insulated item is ONLY "best" when it is "Pristine" or "Worn" condition .. if it is "Damaged" or "Badly Damaged" it is already lower than "Best" .. which COULD lead to it being "Worst" when wet .. so by repairing your clothes, you prevent your "best" gear from dropping to "worst" as you LITERALLY wrote.
- Nothing I wrote "affirms" what you said, it simply suggests that if what YOU observe is true, then your "Best" gear was not in good condition, and was not "best" insulation anyway.
Last edited by _KC76_; Nov 5, 2024 @ 7:02pm
HolyRustedMetal Nov 5, 2024 @ 7:05pm 
Yes some clothes with best insulation can now become worst when wet, like wool gloves, but some are more water resistant and lose less of their insulation, like ski gloves which stay best I think. So they're clearly not the same when one can drop to 90% insulation and the other to -15%.
FloppyDoppy Nov 5, 2024 @ 7:06pm 
Originally posted by _KC76_:
Originally posted by FloppyDoppy:

ofcourse you afirmed, you also said "maybe its skill issue, try to repair your gear" wtf are you talking about? you literally afirm that by refuting others afirmation buddy...
Do you know what the word "affirm" means?
- I suggested you repair your clothes more often, because a "best" insulated item is ONLY "best" when it is "Pristine" or "Worn" condition .. if it is "Damaged" or "Badly Damaged" it is already lower than "Best" .. which COULD lead to it being "Worst" when wet .. so by repairing your clothes, you prevent your "best" gear from dropping to "worst" as you LITERALLY wrote.
- Nothing I wrote "affirms" what you said, it simply suggests that if what YOU observe is true, then your "Best" gear was not in good condition, and was not "best" insulation anyway.

bro, looks like Im talking to a wall when i talk to you, Im serious, not even arguing with you about refuting my afirmation because you dont know the difference of suggesting and doing one afirmation by refuting others afirmation... how can you say that damaged gear have lower insulation... EUREKA!!!! you just found the gunpowder!!! Absolutely no one knew that, specially people who have 6000 hours in the game and most of the people who plays Dayz dont knoww that!!! thats mindblowing... my gear wasnt damage and get "Worst insulation" when was raining and I got soaked, its a fact its not me thinking or giving one opinion thats how the game works now, whats the part you dont understand Mr.wall
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