Does anyone know the exact date when Livonia will be automatically added to DayZ?

[CryptOrchid]

There was a rumor going around recently about how Livonia will no longer have to be purchased and will be automatically added to DayZ.

Does anyone know when?

[NamelessKing]

whoever told you that lied to you

[Amogus]

It's whenever the 1.25 update goes from experimental to stable, so the exact date is unknown

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/221100/view/4219385260138786735?l=english

[Wolfguarde]

Originally posted by Haze:

whoever told you that lied to you

Pretty sure whoever wrote the steam announcement I read yesterday isn't legally allowed to lie about that sort of thing.

[Nathan]

Originally posted by Haze:

whoever told you that lied to you

The main change is that DayZ's base game and the Livonia DLC will merge into a single product with the release of update 1.25 on stable branches. This change aims to streamline the product offering and improve player accessibility and experience.

https://dayz.com/faq

Why would someone go on the internet and lie ?

[NamelessKing]

yeah i see that now just thought it was a lie because it makes no sense to give a dlc thousands of people have bought for free to people who didnt, with that logic if you have livonia you should be granted the new upcoming map dlc for free

[Wolfguarde]

And at some point in the future, you probably will be.

Look at it this way: If they can potentially stir up some fresh activity from players who long ago left the base game behind, it's a net positive to roll the DLC into the base game. Rather than eventually winding up like, say, stellaris or destiny 2, with a whole damn laundry list of DLCs to buy if you ever want to play the entirety of the game's content.

[NamelessKing]

true

[NonovUrbizniz]

Originally posted by Haze:

yeah i see that now just thought it was a lie because it makes no sense to give a dlc thousands of people have bought for free to people who didnt, with that logic if you have livonia you should be granted the new upcoming map dlc for free

They are a generous company that know that adding more content to the base game will generate more sales of their 12 year old game that they are also offering a DLC refresh to, like they do for literally ALL of their games.. in Arma 2 they did Operation Arrowhead, in Arma 3 they did Apex... They sell a DLC map with lots of new features, and add all of the content created up to that date back to the base game so that previously existing customers also benefit..

BI are what gamers dream of in a company, but somehow get treated like they're cash grabbing... It makes me hate this community.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by NonovUrbizniz:

They are a generous company that know that adding more content to the base game will generate more sales of their 12 year old game that they are also offering a DLC refresh to, like they do for literally ALL of their games.. in Arma 2 they did Operation Arrowhead, in Arma 3 they did Apex... They sell a DLC map with lots of new features, and add all of the content created up to that date back to the base game so that previously existing customers also benefit..

BI are what gamers dream of in a company, but somehow get treated like they're cash grabbing... It makes me hate this community.

Hard to tell if this is serious or not and it pains me if it's serious

Ignoring that, $30 for Frostline is a complete and utter scam of the highest level and anyone who pays for it is encouraging scam pricing. Arma 3 Apex not only had a bigger map (100km vs 83km), but it also came with a wide assortment of new vehicles/weapons/attachments/clothing, a new campaign, and a new military faction to go with the campaign. Not only that, but Apex is only $25 for all of that while Frostline is $30 for just a map

If $30 map DLC is "generous", then I don't want to know what "scummy" levels of pricing would be ($45-60 DLC)

[NamelessKing]

sounds like hes trying to farm clown awards just ignore him

[Baby2Chill]

Originally posted by SUBNORMAL:

Originally posted by NonovUrbizniz:

They are a generous company that know that adding more content to the base game will generate more sales of their 12 year old game that they are also offering a DLC refresh to, like they do for literally ALL of their games.. in Arma 2 they did Operation Arrowhead, in Arma 3 they did Apex... They sell a DLC map with lots of new features, and add all of the content created up to that date back to the base game so that previously existing customers also benefit..

BI are what gamers dream of in a company, but somehow get treated like they're cash grabbing... It makes me hate this community.

Hard to tell if this is serious or not and it pains me if it's serious

Ignoring that, $30 for Frostline is a complete and utter scam of the highest level and anyone who pays for it is encouraging scam pricing. Arma 3 Apex not only had a bigger map (100km vs 83km), but it also came with a wide assortment of new vehicles/weapons/attachments/clothing, a new campaign, and a new military faction to go with the campaign. Not only that, but Apex is only $25 for all of that while Frostline is $30 for just a map

If $30 map DLC is "generous", then I don't want to know what "scummy" levels of pricing would be ($45-60 DLC)

You just really don't seem to understand the concept of a video game company, a business, profiting and making money do you? You keep talking about upkeep costs as if they should charge the bare minimum to barely keep the game alive, ignoring the fact that Steam probably takes 50% of the price meaning they DO actually only get the $10-$15 that you seem to think is fairer. Definitely a video game communist who wants game devs to be as poor as unemployed gamers.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by Baby2Chill:

You just really don't seem to understand the concept of a video game company, a business, profiting and making money do you? You keep talking about upkeep costs as if they should charge the bare minimum to barely keep the game alive, ignoring the fact that Steam probably takes 50% of the price meaning they DO actually only get the $10-$15 that you seem to think is fairer. Definitely a video game communist who wants game devs to be as poor as unemployed gamers.

I'm not saying anything about them operating on paper thin margins to get by, but rather that their game doesn't cost that much to upkeep. When doing business, the primary factor you should be looking at is upkeeping the game. If you can manage to upkeep your game, then you take a look at your staff and decide if who you have on your team is necessary to maintain or improve the business. If both previous checks succeed, then you can look towards potential expansion or investments that can be done to further the company's standing. If they have the resources to continue to develop the game AND make new DLC content, then they're doing just fine and don't need to be charging $30 for a map

Nobody's stopping you from paying an outrageous price for a map DLC, but I'm not going to stop saying how stupid the pricing is. I even discussed Livonia with my friends and the first thing they said was that they waited for it to be on sale for $10 because $14 was too much for them to want to spend on a single map. This can further be shown by the fact that it only has ~2,000 reviews across 4 and a half years which, when you compare it to DayZ's ~390,000 reviews over 10 years, makes it not look like it worked out all that well. If that's how it worked out with Livonia at $14, how do you think it's going to go with Frostline at $30?

Also, Steam cut is only 30% with the added benefit of only charging a one-time fee of $100 to list your product on their platform. I'd say that's a pretty sweet deal for being able to keep your game permanently listed on the biggest PC gaming platform

[Chewy]

on the 20th in 3 days

[HolyRustedMetal]

Originally posted by Chewy:

on the 20th in 3 days

No. On May 27th.
https://forums.dayz.com/topic/259737-125-server-wipe-announcement/