I miss the old controls.

[GetInTheHangar]

Space toggling your weapon raise and right mouse zooming. You cant replicate these controls anymore.

[Amogus]

If they were less clunky than they were before, then I would agree completely (although my nostalgia would still have me enjoying the old)

Arma Reforger has that mechanic built into the game where you can raise/lower your weapon as well as a "low ready" stance where you can move faster, but also have the gun raised so you can aim and shoot faster than if it was lowered. Considering DayZ is on the same engine as Arma Reforger, there's no reason why they couldn't make that a thing or, at the very least, allow you to choose between the current system (gun always lowered, aim to raise gun, press button to ADS) and Arma Reforger (gun can be raised/lowered, hold/tap RMB to ADS)

[shlowie]

Originally posted by SUBNORMAL:

If they were less clunky than they were before, then I would agree completely (although my nostalgia would still have me enjoying the old)

Arma Reforger has that mechanic built into the game where you can raise/lower your weapon as well as a "low ready" stance where you can move faster, but also have the gun raised so you can aim and shoot faster than if it was lowered. Considering DayZ is on the same engine as Arma Reforger, there's no reason why they couldn't make that a thing or, at the very least, allow you to choose between the current system (gun always lowered, aim to raise gun, press button to ADS) and Arma Reforger (gun can be raised/lowered, hold/tap RMB to ADS)

DayZ isn't on the same engine as Reforger. It only uses it's renderer.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by shlowie:

DayZ isn't on the same engine as Reforger. It only uses it's renderer.

The point being made is that DayZ doesn't have the full implementation of it (DayZ is currently an awkward hybrid of legacy/Enfusion) which is why it has so many more problems than Arma Reforger does and, should they ever choose to fully implement it, a lot of DayZ's problems will disappear

From all of my playtime on Arma Reforger the last few weeks on large-scale servers with 120-140 people, I haven't had a single instance of mass lag causing vehicles to clip into the ground and explode/fly into orbit or any bullets getting eaten by imaginary/invisible hitboxes. There is a lot of connection timeouts, but that's due to the mods the server is running and not the game itself. The only bug that I've encountered involved a vehicle that "broke" and caused the mounted MG to not do any damage to anything and drove weirdly, but that's the only bug I've experienced

Compare that to current DayZ where you can be on an empty server and have a minor bit of latency/lag that can cause your vehicle to clip into something and explode and/or fly into the air or ghost bullets or many other server synchronization issues

[johnc]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Space toggling your weapon raise and right mouse zooming. You cant replicate these controls anymore.

Feels bad man. No excuse.

[johnc]

I also miss the old helmets, you know ones that didn't magically protect your entire face, and uncon mechanics. Sometimes you'd be out for so long!

[Amogus]

Originally posted by johnc:

I also miss the old helmets, you know ones that didn't magically protect your entire face, and uncon mechanics. Sometimes you'd be out for so long!

New unconscious mechanics are basically getting shot by anything, going unconscious, and still having 90% health when you wake back up

Happens to me so many times and I just don't understand how that works

[WarNerve]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Space toggling your weapon raise and right mouse zooming. You cant replicate these controls anymore.

I had it set up so that I could hold right-click and that would ADS. Or I could single-click RMB and that would raise my weapon into hip fire position. Or I could click scroll wheel while ADS to switch to hip fire position and back again.

After one of the last patches they broke the ability to set ADS and Raise to RMB, and to set to toggle or Hold.

You can still hold RMB to ADS like before, but you have to jump through hoops.

I thought I found some lines of code where they mixed up some console and pc command inputs. I opened a bug report but nothing came of it. I forget exactly what it was, but it was something to do with holding ADS being set to a "trigger button" instead of RMB, for the PC control, and then the like for PC was correct, or blank... I don't remember... but something was wonky and I filled out a report..

[WarNerve]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Space toggling your weapon raise and right mouse zooming. You cant replicate these controls anymore.

Why can't you? There are apps that will let you set any key to perform any function you want. Many gaming keyboards even have this feature built into them.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by WarNerve:

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Space toggling your weapon raise and right mouse zooming. You cant replicate these controls anymore.

Why can't you? There are apps that will let you set any key to perform any function you want. Many gaming keyboards even have this feature built into them.

Of course there's always ways around it, but using third-party apps isn't for everyone

I didn't know about the double binding to be able to instantly ADS, but I really wish I did. The in-game "crosshair" when hipfiring is such a joke and is a placebo because it doesn't correlate to where you're aiming whatsoever and relying on it is relying on you missing all of your shots

[GetInTheHangar]

Originally posted by WarNerve:

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Space toggling your weapon raise and right mouse zooming. You cant replicate these controls anymore.

Why can't you? There are apps that will let you set any key to perform any function you want. Many gaming keyboards even have this feature built into them.

Because I like to use my PC for other things while I play games. Having a key do something for one app that is useless for another I might have open at that time is annoying and means I would have to keep changing that macro again and again and again. Its a ♥♥♥♥ solution.

[GetInTheHangar]

Originally posted by SUBNORMAL:

Originally posted by WarNerve:

Why can't you? There are apps that will let you set any key to perform any function you want. Many gaming keyboards even have this feature built into them.

Of course there's always ways around it, but using third-party apps isn't for everyone

I didn't know about the double binding to be able to instantly ADS, but I really wish I did. The in-game "crosshair" when hipfiring is such a joke and is a placebo because it doesn't correlate to where you're aiming whatsoever and relying on it is relying on you missing all of your shots

Yeah. The crosshair should either be where your gun aims or not exist.

[johnc]

Originally posted by SUBNORMAL:

Originally posted by WarNerve:

Why can't you? There are apps that will let you set any key to perform any function you want. Many gaming keyboards even have this feature built into them.

Of course there's always ways around it, but using third-party apps isn't for everyone

I didn't know about the double binding to be able to instantly ADS, but I really wish I did. The in-game "crosshair" when hipfiring is such a joke and is a placebo because it doesn't correlate to where you're aiming whatsoever and relying on it is relying on you missing all of your shots

Literally me coming back from 5+ years not playing, when I noticed how disgustingly bad this was I just started plying 1PP only. :l

[Envy The Dead]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Space toggling your weapon raise and right mouse zooming. You cant replicate these controls anymore.

You can reset the controls to whatever you want

[GetInTheHangar]

Originally posted by Skeeter:

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Space toggling your weapon raise and right mouse zooming. You cant replicate these controls anymore.

You can rest the controls to whatever you want

No you cant as they have multiple functions on one key.

[Envy The Dead]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Originally posted by Skeeter:

You can rest the controls to whatever you want

No you cant as they have multiple functions on one key.

You can still configure them how you want