SV-98 is really dissapointing

[GetInTheHangar]

Apparently it actually does less damage than the mosin. They could have also had it in 338 so we could have had another tier of sniper but instead its just another 7.62 sniper and it also doesnt have any good long range scopes for it in game. What was the round in adding this gun.

[wuD]

OP wants a .338 and writes "just another 7.62"
There are 5 Weapons chambered in .338 and only 2 with 7.62x54r
Now 3.
Also, the Mosin has a way longer Barrel and only 5 internal bullets while the SV got 10 round mags.

Imho, i love this new Rifle!

[GetInTheHangar]

Originally posted by wuD:

OP wants a .338 and writes "just another 7.62"
There are 5 Weapons chambered in .338 and only 2 with 7.62x54r
Now 3.
Also, the Mosin has a way longer Barrel and only 5 internal bullets while the SV got 10 round mags.

Imho, i love this new Rifle!

No. There are no vanilla guns in 338. There are in 308. 338 isnt even in game. 338 is much more powerful than 308, its a good 30% more powerful.

The extra 5 shots is pretty meaningless in 99% of scenarios and the fact it needs a magazine is also a disadvantage. The mosin you can keep constantly topped. You can top load it between shots without even using the magazine. Then when you need follow up shots you starting using the internal mag.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uZdglsYkVnE/maxresdefault.jpg

[Amogus]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

No. There are no vanilla guns in 338. There are in 308. 338 isnt even in game. 338 is much more powerful than 308, its a good 30% more powerful.

The extra 5 shots is pretty meaningless in 99% of scenarios and the fact it needs a magazine is also a disadvantage. The mosin you can keep constantly topped. You can top load it between shots without even using the magazine. Then when you need follow up shots you starting using the internal mag.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uZdglsYkVnE/maxresdefault.jpg

It's also kind of funny how the CR-550 Savanna and the M70 Tundra are effectively reskins of each other because not only do they look extremely similar, but they're functionally identical in every way except for the fact that the M70 has an integrated mag and the CR-550 has interchangeable mags

Yeah, there's no .338 lapua in the vanilla game and most likely never will be. Apart from laziness by the developers, I could see a weak reasoning be that having too much diversity of ammo types can cause finding ammo for other weapons harder. Naturally, since .338 lapua is a very high-end round and would most likely only spawn at high-tier military locations (AKA Tisy), that argument would hold no water

[GetInTheHangar]

Originally posted by SUBNORMAL:

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

No. There are no vanilla guns in 338. There are in 308. 338 isnt even in game. 338 is much more powerful than 308, its a good 30% more powerful.

The extra 5 shots is pretty meaningless in 99% of scenarios and the fact it needs a magazine is also a disadvantage. The mosin you can keep constantly topped. You can top load it between shots without even using the magazine. Then when you need follow up shots you starting using the internal mag.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uZdglsYkVnE/maxresdefault.jpg

It's also kind of funny how the CR-550 Savanna and the M70 Tundra are effectively reskins of each other because not only do they look extremely similar, but they're functionally identical in every way except for the fact that the M70 has an integrated mag and the CR-550 has interchangeable mags

Yeah, there's no .338 lapua in the vanilla game and most likely never will be. Apart from laziness by the developers, I could see a weak reasoning be that having too much diversity of ammo types can cause finding ammo for other weapons harder. Naturally, since .338 lapua is a very high-end round and would most likely only spawn at high-tier military locations (AKA Tisy), that argument would hold no water

I dont see how it would if you just adjusted the economy make it so there is the same amount of every other ammo then add in the 338 and make sure there is X amount of that, then nothing becomes rarer.

.338 is a round you can buy civilian rifles in. I really would have no issue with seeing .338 in tier 2, just make it rare.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

I dont see how it would if you just adjusted the economy make it so there is the same amount of every other ammo then add in the 338 and make sure there is X amount of that, then nothing becomes rarer.

.338 is a round you can buy civilian rifles in. I really would have no issue with seeing .338 in tier 2, just make it rare.

It's definitely possible without question, but it really does come down to Bohemia not wanting to put in effort to that extent to do it

If you ignore improvised content (most of it is new), 90% of the in-game items were already present in legacy DayZ and have been slowly re-implemented over time. For the average player that only picked the game up a few years ago after the 1.0 release, they would get the impression that Bohemia is doing so much work to pump out tons of content to them when, in reality, they already had 80% of the work done for them and all they had to do was "importing" it into the new engine.

For example, of the 26 sharp melee weapons in the game, only 5 of them are actually new and, of the 16 blunt melee weapons, not a single one is actually new, but rather removed from the game when 1.0 released and added back in over time. The same can be said for guns since only 9 unique weapons have been added and, when you ignore weapons that were in the game files previously or are just copy/pastes of each other (M70 & CR-550), the number drops to 5. This gives some perspective of all of the "new" guns and melee weapons they've added over the years and how most of it wasn't "new", but "new to you"

[Envy The Dead]

Originally posted by wuD:

OP wants a .338 and writes "just another 7.62"
There are 5 Weapons chambered in .338 and only 2 with 7.62x54r
Now 3.
Also, the Mosin has a way longer Barrel and only 5 internal bullets while the SV got 10 round mags.

Imho, i love this new Rifle!

This is what he does

some people are only good at complaining

[GetInTheHangar]

Originally posted by SUBNORMAL:

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

I dont see how it would if you just adjusted the economy make it so there is the same amount of every other ammo then add in the 338 and make sure there is X amount of that, then nothing becomes rarer.

.338 is a round you can buy civilian rifles in. I really would have no issue with seeing .338 in tier 2, just make it rare.

It's definitely possible without question, but it really does come down to Bohemia not wanting to put in effort to that extent to do it

If you ignore improvised content (most of it is new), 90% of the in-game items were already present in legacy DayZ and have been slowly re-implemented over time. For the average player that only picked the game up a few years ago after the 1.0 release, they would get the impression that Bohemia is doing so much work to pump out tons of content to them when, in reality, they already had 80% of the work done for them and all they had to do was "importing" it into the new engine.

For example, of the 26 sharp melee weapons in the game, only 5 of them are actually new and, of the 16 blunt melee weapons, not a single one is actually new, but rather removed from the game when 1.0 released and added back in over time. The same can be said for guns since only 9 unique weapons have been added and, when you ignore weapons that were in the game files previously or are just copy/pastes of each other (M70 & CR-550), the number drops to 5. This gives some perspective of all of the "new" guns and melee weapons they've added over the years and how most of it wasn't "new", but "new to you"

There clear avoidance of adding a new ammo just funny. I'm sure when all is said and done we will have about 30 guns using 308 and half of those will be guns that are usually in something else.

Its like the deagle being in .357. Sure you can get it in that calibre but its known for being 50AE, so why not add 50AE.

Its also much more common to see the M14 in 7.62x51.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

There clear avoidance of adding a new ammo just funny. I'm sure when all is said and done we will have about 30 guns using 308 and half of those will be guns that are usually in something else.

Its like the deagle being in .357. Sure you can get it in that calibre but its known for being 50AE, so why not add 50AE.

Its also much more common to see the M14 in 7.62x51.

We can at least be thankful that it's not as bad as PUBG where the box of 7.62 ammo can be used as 7.62x25, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54, AND 7.98x57 (Kar98k)

Like you said, .357 on the Deagle is definitely the most outlandish decision by far while most of the others are alright. The only stuff that's laughable to me is the bolt action rifles chambered in lower caliber rounds (5.56 & 5.45) as if they're ever going to be reliably killing people with anything other than a headshot

[GetInTheHangar]

Originally posted by SUBNORMAL:

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

There clear avoidance of adding a new ammo just funny. I'm sure when all is said and done we will have about 30 guns using 308 and half of those will be guns that are usually in something else.

Its like the deagle being in .357. Sure you can get it in that calibre but its known for being 50AE, so why not add 50AE.

Its also much more common to see the M14 in 7.62x51.

We can at least be thankful that it's not as bad as PUBG is where the box of 7.62 ammo can be used as 7.62x25, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54, AND 7.98x57 (Kar98k)

Like you said, .357 on the Deagle is definitely the most outlandish decision by far while most of the others are alright. The only stuff that's laughable to me is the bolt action rifles chambered in lower caliber rounds (5.56 & 5.45) as if they're ever going to be reliably killing people with anything other than a headshot

The steyr scout made me laugh when I saw it. the SG is just a joke.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

The steyr scout made me laugh when I saw it.

They took the M4 and cut it's fire rate by 95% and thought it was going to be a good weapon even though you'd probably need to dump the entire 5-round magazine into someone to kill them

Honestly, the Pioneer seems like a "placeholder" gun that solely exists to have more in-game variety of weaponry. As a fun fact, the Pioneer was one of the weapons I mentioned that was in the game files before 1.0 as well as being originally chambered in .308 instead of 5.56 like it is now. They took a rifle that could've been decent to use and turned it into a laughable joke that I would be disappointed to find when looting

[baddoggs]

Personally i like the SKS clone, It's fairly easy to find, easy to get ammo for,
does not require a mag but is semi auto and is simple to use.
AND, the best part, no one else ever really wants them.
Also, like a "bolt" rifle you can "chamber load" for single
shots saving the ammo load for when things get "up close and personal".

[GetInTheHangar]

Originally posted by baddoggs:

Personally i like the SKS clone, It's fairly easy to find, easy to get ammo for,
does not require a mag but is semi auto and is simple to use.
AND, the best part, no one else ever really wants them.
Also, like a "bolt" rifle you can "chamber load" for single
shots saving the ammo load for when things get "up close and personal".

Which gun is the SKS clone? There is no SKS clone in vanilla as far as I am aware.

[Jethro]

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Originally posted by baddoggs:

Personally i like the SKS clone, It's fairly easy to find, easy to get ammo for,
does not require a mag but is semi auto and is simple to use.
AND, the best part, no one else ever really wants them.
Also, like a "bolt" rifle you can "chamber load" for single
shots saving the ammo load for when things get "up close and personal".

Which gun is the SKS clone? There is no SKS clone in vanilla as far as I am aware.

I believe it’s the “SK 59/66”.

[Idaho]

Originally posted by Jethro:

Originally posted by GetInTheHangar:

Which gun is the SKS clone? There is no SKS clone in vanilla as far as I am aware.

I believe it’s the “SK 59/66”.

Correct. SK S9/66 is an SKS. And you can even enable the green and black variants ingame for more variety. Actually, most vanilla guns have vanilla black and green variants, as well as black and green mags for almost every gun. My server has them all in game... so nice having an AK with black mags...

[Luca NK]

Kind of agree, the lack of a long range scope only make it interesting as a novelty but not much else. Thing is, by the time you get one you probably already have a Winchester. And even if you pick it up and put the big ACOG on it, it loses its usefulness as soon as you run into a FAL or a DMR.

Yeh, pretty bland addition as it is now, give it a long range scope and we can talk about it, for the moment still nothing beats a Winchester.