Purses. Purses will save DayZ!

[jrc]

Really?! Of all the things that need to be done, or which can be done, or which SHOULD be done, you've settled on THE LEAST IMPORTANT THING OF ALL TIME. Which wife or GF said "OMG, není dost peněženek!"?

[baddoggs]

Originally posted by jrc:

It's a metaphor. Do they not teach those in school anymore?

No, they don't, they barely teach kids to read and write..
Don't get me started om math...

[Filia (｡◔‿↼｡)]

Originally posted by jrc:

I'd rather stay around and enjoy my vacation posting so that the unemployed, young teens, or also vacationing folks get a chance to respond. Isn't that right, etwas?

lmao

[Filia (｡◔‿↼｡)]

Originally posted by jrc:

@Idaho: the issue isn't the value. The issue is that if you are going to update a 9-yr-old game at all, you might start with some of the stuff you've been promising folks for the last 9 years, instead of (in this order) 1) Reskins of existing content (and masks no one wanted/needed) 2) medieval armor (which was already part of a mod) 3) Purses (a mystery for certain).

Literally

[Filia (｡◔‿↼｡)]

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

unless this thread becomes more constructive and less bitey I shall close it.

@everyone. Be nice.

I will be, can't speak for anybody else

[Envy The Dead]

There will always be complainers no matter what same as in life

[jrc]

And there will be those who post up a reply that contributes nothing to any part of the conversation, not even to disagree with the examples posted.

[Idaho]

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

unless this thread becomes more constructive and less bitey I shall close it.

@everyone. Be nice.

but that's boring!

[jrc]

Another consideration is that, in past years, a major focal point of the vanilla game was choices forced by limitations in carrying ability. It kept down portable hoarding (made much worse with vehicles (necessary, I grant you, but still an extra place to hoard), and forced players to make painful choices between weapons, food, insulation, protection, stamina and speed. As we see storage expanded, the tendency to keep items that may never be used, and which must be tracked by a server, increases.

I feel the game loses some of its native "wildness" every time something unnecessary is added to it. Particularly as it is added in place of fleshing out existing ideas or needs. The existing logical leather equipment tree, for example, has never been filled in, despite the fact that virtually all the components (hardwood bark, tallow, animal brains, and water... with some others (including acorns/acidic berries and sometimes dog excrement not really necessary) are already in game. All that you would need is a barrel or two and the ingredients (and time). After that, a leather sewing kit, and poof... leather gear. You wouldn't actually need fertilizer (which can be hard to find, depending on where you spawn/how many players are coming into the server).

What other things are already "in game," but under-realized or incomplete?

[Mr Chow]

I really dont know why the devs even update ,modders are the true champs that have kept this game going the devs have put nothing but usless items in the game .

[Sebi1106]

idk.... The game has improved immensly.... were some of yall around when it launched?
This is a diffrent game now :D

I have not encountered any gamebreaking bugs/ gamecrashes / unwarranted FPS drops / "ghost shots" / invisible zombies / HECK EVEN THE CAR RUBBERBANDING IS FIXED....

They did a fine job, if you ask me.

Concerning the patch....
They rebalanced almost all items when it comes to meele. Some people were upset, that a knife knocks you out faster than a pipewrench for example, and multiple other things.... THEY REBALANCED THAT.

They are reworking Bagpacks in the CLE in general.

They reworked loot in lower tiers.

They reworked how diffrent clothings affect your chance of starting to bleed.

They reworked the chance of bleeding in zombie vs player combat.

They added collision to Animals, so you can no longer hide on the body of them and kill unsuspecting people.

They fixed the launcher.....

Numerous other bugfixes....

Theres alot more than purses..... but sure.... lets not read the whole patchnotes and just start a rant about purses...

[baddoggs]

Originally posted by Sebi1106:

idk.... The game has improved immensly.... were some of yall around when it launched?
This is a diffrent game now :D

I have not encountered any gamebreaking bugs/ gamecrashes / unwarranted FPS drops / "ghost shots" / invisible zombies / HECK EVEN THE CAR RUBBERBANDING IS FIXED....

They did a fine job, if you ask me.

Concerning the patch....
They rebalanced almost all items when it comes to meele. Some people were upset, that a knife knocks you out faster than a pipewrench for example, and multiple other things.... THEY REBALANCED THAT.

They are reworking Bagpacks in the CLE in general.

They reworked loot in lower tiers.

They reworked how diffrent clothings affect your chance of starting to bleed.

They reworked the chance of bleeding in zombie vs player combat.

They added collision to Animals, so you can no longer hide on the body of them and kill unsuspecting people.

They fixed the launcher.....

Numerous other bugfixes....

Theres alot more than purses..... but sure.... lets not read the whole patchnotes and just start a rant about purses...

Totally agree with all that but... purses? Of all the things people ask for
ALL the time... Who the hell asked for those?
Like Knight's helm and sword... But no simple bow and arrow....

[Sebi1106]

Idk if you see the big picture with the purses here...
They are rebalancing the accessibility of bagpacks. Big bagpacks will be much rarer than they are now. They have added a whole new tier of bagpacks! I kind of like it. It always felt weird that you find backpags with 80 slots in cherno, while some military bagpacks only have 42 slot xD

Alot of things thats been asked for is actually in this patch! Things that range from reworking bleeds, all the way to AI improvements to Zombies, improved navmesh... They finally added a splashing sound when throwing things into the water... They fixed that bug, where you have to vault into certain building... They fixed the "wallkit Blocking".... They fixed the broken Carwrecks that could not be looted.... They fixed the Queue bug... they fixed the launcher... They reworked the "stunlocking"....

THEY EVEN FIXED THE GHOSTING BUG WITH THE LADDERS ON OFFICIALS!

But everyone is going berserk about the purses XD come on... give them a break... people act like they just added purses and thats the whole patch... Its obvious they havent read the patchnotes at all...

They watched the WOBO video, and think thats the only things that are coming with the patch.





Have a look at the patchnotes: (i didnt even include the "mods" part)

PC Experimental 1.22 Update 1 - Version 1.21.156458 (Released on 27.07.2023)

NOTES

Consider using the Steam client option to verify the integrity of the local game cache to avoid corrupted data after downloading this update.
Consider de-fragmenting your HDD after downloading large updates.
In case of problems, please check the Bohemia Interactive support F.A.Q., DayZ F.A.Q., or BattlEye F.A.Q.
You can help us to further improve the game by posting your feedback on the Feedback Tracker.

GAME

ADDED

Sling Bag
Army Pouch
Canvas Bag
Leather Duffel Bag
Hip Pack
Craftable Drysack Bag
New animation and sound for activating the heat pack
White variant of the fingerless wool gloves

FIXED

Fixed a server crash related to vehicle deletion
Car horns were not played when started outside of other players' network bubble
Fixed a cause of the character and creatures movement giving the perception of micro-stutters at inconsistent but reliably high frame rate
Fixed an exploit to stand up from prone faster
Throwing an item into rivers/ponds/lakes would not produce a splash sound in deep water
Throwing an item into water would incorrectly play the sound at the bed of the water
The character was unable to enter some building entrances that were slightly above ground level
Players dying under water would not float up to the surface
Fixed a case of door animation desynchronization related to navmesh updates
The character name in the server browser was not displayed correctly in all cases
Fixed an exploit related to poison gas zone triggers (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T172418 - private)
When attempting to turn the car on with low fuel, the engine state between server and client would desynchronize
Actions that would hide items in hands would display the item to other players if they entered the network bubble after the action was started
AI were unable to enter the Livonia bunker
AI would not register open doors of the service hangar
It was not possible to detach the battery from a head torch looted from infected
Flares shot from the flare gun would produce a continuous sound when stuck in objects (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T172688)
The clerk infected looked too dark
Road flares would continue to burn for up to a minute even after reaching ruined state
Some weapon attachments were not registering hit impacts
Mining rocks with smaller tools did not play sounds
Destroyed fuel pumps would still yield gasoline
Washing hands with a water bottle did not have sounds
Certain can opening actions did not have sounds
Interrupting the washing hands action could result in a character glitch
Fixed several exploits to look through walls (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T157876 - private, https://feedback.bistudio.com/T165940 - private, https://feedback.bistudio.com/T169841, https://feedback.bistudio.com/T171015, https://feedback.bistudio.com/T171773 - private)
Several clothing items were missing their hitboxes
Camera was glitching when attempting to switch to prone in deep water
Bolts could get stuck in water
Crossbow bolts did not reflect their damage states correctly
It was not possible to shave while wearing the carnival mask
After removing a burlap sack from a player's head, their hair could clip with their head gear
The red dot of the RVN Optic was not aligned with the center of the screen (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T171772)
If a dead body was skinned and quartered, bolts stuck in it would disappear
Attempting to treat another player's wounds could result in false prompts to bandage yourself
Fixed several instances of items being held badly by the player
Fixed several instances of clothing items clipping
Fixed several building issues and exploits (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T170849, https://feedback.bistudio.com/T169681)
Item widget would stay on the screen for the duration of hold actions (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T143492)
While driving, the user would constantly get the item widget of the car prompted
Medieval helmets had inconsistent impact sounds when thrown
The crossbow did not have sounds when used in prone
The crossbow did not have sounds when dry shooting indoors
The reload sound of the crossbow was more quiet while moving
The thirst indication sound could overlap with the fever sound
The thirst sound was not being played while wearing a gas mask or helmet
Prison doors played the wrong sounds (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T162517)
Audio of certain doors was desynchronized (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T170418)
The respawn timer was skipped as soon as the game was loaded (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T159902)
The reticle of the ATOG 6x48 optic was blurry on low graphics settings (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T171572)
Widgets connected to dead bodies were not static on the screen (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T172420)
An unconscious player could temporarily go into falling state and see their surroundings
Jumping while applying a gag bugs the rag
It was possible to access the inventory while blindfolded after waking up from unconsciousness
Deployed fence kits could block ladder exits (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T173115 - private)
The audio effect of the flash grenade would persist after respawn if the player was killed during it (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T172824 - private)
Certain car wreck doors wouldn't open in all cases (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T172885)
Despawned fireplaces could still cause damage to players at their position
It was possible to collapse the hand slot container in the inventory (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T170500)
Fixed an exploit that allowed auto-rolling
Ambient sounds were missing after relogging while alt-tabbing in the Livonia underground
It was possible to warm up pills and split them
It was possible to bypass travel/server hop spawns by logging off on a ladder (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T173612 - private)
The player could cancel the stagger animation from a heavy hit by jumping (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T173573 - private)

CHANGED

Balanced gear armor values against melee weapons
Balanced damage caused by melee weapons and infected
Blunt melee weapons now inflict significantly more shock damage than health damage
Sharp melee weapons now inflict significantly more health damage than shock damage
The chance of suffering bleeding now both depends on the weapon/infected type, as well as protective clothing
Certain low tier sharp weapons will no longer cause push-back even when using heavy attack.
Chance of suffering bleeding is now based on weapons and armor
PBO data is now verified before entering the login queue (PC)
Added collisions for the player with dead bodies large animals
Reduced the weight of gas canisters (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T171733)
Improved the fire geometry for several firearms
Improved the fire geometry of several weapon attachments
Improved sounds of explosives
Reduced the damage taken by belts from torso hits by 20 percent
Reduced surface noise when driving over specific surfaces (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T171153)
Item widgets are no longer visible when blinded by a flash grenade or burlap sack
Updated the game credits
The in-game server browser now displays exact player numbers
Removed the column for slots in the server browser

CENTRAL ECONOMY

Added: Missing armbands for new flag variants
Fixed: Fixed misaligned spawnpoints for various buildings
Changed: Reduced the amount of backpacks spawning on infected
Changed: Reduced amount of backpacks spawning in the world
Changed: Rebalanced spawning locations of backpacks
Changed: Reduced amount of tools that work as high tier weapons and increased their low tier counterparts
Changed: Gasoline Canisters no longer spawn with full gasoline
Changed: Gas Canisters no longer spawn with full gas
Changed: Power generator no longer spawns with full fuel

CHERNARUS

Added: Winning billboards of the BillboardZ competition
Added: Travel agency billboards

LIVONIA

Fixed: A police event close to Brena was misplaced

SERVER

Fixed: RPT header not being present when using -profiles= (PC)
Fixed: RPT command line print not working correctly when exceeding 1024 characters (PC)
Fixed: Very early calls of printing to RPT not being displayed (PC)
Fixed: Minor fix for logging of mounting/unmounting of BarbedWire to/from a Fence (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T170195) (PC)
Fixed: Firearm melee hits were not logged corectly (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T170195, https://feedback.bistudio.com/T171731) (PC)
Fixed: The orientation values in cfgundergroundtriggers.json did not function correctly (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T173165)
Changed: Reintroduced the Logging of damage to dead bodies in the Admin logs (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T172848 - private)
Changed: All energy based items with a potential for energy quantity(Gas Canisters, Power Generator, Road Flares....) can now have energy value set through types.xml (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T173500)

LAUNCHER

Added: Server config for PC server now supports steamProtocolMaxDataSize, which enables larger packets, which can be used by servers with many mods to still show up in Launcher
Added: Users can now favorite a server from the Direct Connect window
Fixed: Launcher no longer displays a server as both offline and online in the FAVORITES tab (which would happen to certain steam accounts)
Fixed: Direct Connect window in Launcher was asking for "Server name or address" even though it only accepts the IP Address
Tweaked: All Launcher Server Browser tabs can now refresh simultaneously, and start refreshing upon Launcher startup
Tweaked: Server Browser tabs no longer refresh automatically, the user must trigger a refresh manually
Tweaked: Direct Connect window now opens Mod Management Window instead of attempting to directly connect
Tweaked: Removed Slots column from Server browser section. Players column now displays exact player number on a server, in color
Tweaked: Filter button in Launcher is now highlighted in red
Deprecated: Password field has been removed from the Direct Connect window
Deprecated: Completely removed the legacy PLAY SG button from the Launcher
Deprecated: Show Official Servers filter has been removed from the Launcher due to redundancy with the official tab

[etwas]

Originally posted by baddoggs:

Like Knight's helm and sword... But no simple bow and arrow....
:lunar2019deadpanpig:

i guess its the lack of animations for the "simple" bow and arrow. for sure that will take a lot of time and effort. at least they have its physics ready from the crossbow they can use.
and most likely the dev(s) doing the cosmetic items has no clue how to work with animations.
so yeah, instead of waiting a year for maybe a bow and arrow and just updates with bug fixes between... i take this purses, just alone for the cle improvement.

[etwas]

Originally posted by Mr Chow the pure blood.:

I really dont know why the devs even update ,modders are the true champs that have kept this game going the devs have put nothing but usless items in the game .

who gave the modders this tools and who expands this tools with every patch?

Originally posted by Sebi1106:

Have a look at the patchnotes: (i didnt even include the "mods" part)

mr chow should have a look at those:

MODDING

Added: Invoker for trigger enter/leave events
Added: Invoker for entity EEKilled and EEHitBy events
Added: 'DayZPhysics.GetHitSurfaceAndLiquid' to get the liquid type of the hit surface
Added: Method 'SoundObject.UpdateVariables(array<float>) to update the variables of a soundset while it is playing (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T161112)
Added: 'SoundObjectBuilder.AddVariables(array<string>, array<float> = null)'
Added: Human::CheckFreeSpace exposed to scripts
Added: Accessor methods for the parent entity of a SoundObject
Added: Accessor methods for the speed of a SoundObject
Added: 'AbstractWave.SetDoppler' to enable or disable the doppler effect on sounds
Added: Script methods to get the current object texture/material
Added: 'DayZPlayerImplement.IsAlreadyInFallingCommand' to block falling command from starting
Added: 'World.UpdatePathgraphDoorByAnimationName' for updating states of doors on entities that aren't a house
Added: 'soundSpeedAppliesToHit' for CfgAmmo to enable sound fall off on hit surfaces
Added: Basic config defines are now available in the built pbo as hpp file that can be included in any custom config
Added: Accessor for detecting if the player is teleported during login through 'Hive.CharacterIsLoginPositionChanged'
Added: 'ButtonWidget.GetText(out string)' to get the set non-localized text
Added: 'EntityAI.RegisterNetSyncVariableObject' to synchronize an object by its network id
Added: 'UUIDApi' for generating and formatting a 128bit universally unique identifier (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T173290)
Added: RandomBool() func.
Added: Config parameter "collidesWithCharacterOnDeath" on DayZPlayer and DayZCreature to enable if either entity collides with the player when dead
Fixed: Human::CanChangeStance - parameter newStance has raised hands flag now
Fixed: Having code in the body of UIScriptedMenu.Cleanup would cause an infinite loop in script for UIScriptedMenu created and managed by script
Fixed: Triggers will now sync their shape over network
Fixed: Triggers will now automatically refresh themselves when setting a new shape
Fixed: Debug shapes could crash the game under certain conditions
Fixed: Window couldn't be resized after the window was maximized while CLI '-resizeable' was used
Fixed: ScriptCallQueue.GetRemainingTime and ScriptCallQueue.GetRemainingTimeByName returning values of removed funcs (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T173840)
Changed: A 'CONTACT' event is now fired for 'InventoryItem' when the origin of the entity is submerged in water
Changed: 'Car.GetFluidFraction' now returns the quantized amount with 8 bits of precision
Changed: 'AbstractWave.SetPosition' now contains 2nd default argument for setting the velocity
Changed: In-Game menu will appear on launch if the window isn't focused (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T166474)
Changed: Player identity is now applied before player object loading
Changed: Moved 'string.Get' and 'string.Set' to native for slight performance improvement
Changed: RPT warning "'/' is not a value" has been changed to "Trying to access error value." for more clarity
Deprecated: 'SoundObjectBuilder.SetVariable' in favor of the more appropriately named 'SoundObjectBuilder.AddVariable'
Deprecated: 'SoundObjectBuilder.UpdateEnvSoundControllers' in favor of the more appropriately named 'SoundObjectBuilder.AddEnvSoundVariables'

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[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

stop using facts and logic! people hate purses! its wokeness being shoved down my throat! why havnt the devs added that thing i specifically want!

Obviously this is low brow sarcasm but the above last couple of posts are quite correct that the patch isnt *just* purses but an entire rethink of an existing system. (plus all the other stuff the devs worked on)

it might not be *your* priority thing (or mine) but its what the devs want to/ are able to work on.

Every upddate released gets hate from someone not liking that particular *thing* whereas others really like or are simply indifferent to it.

If the devs just added a purse anf that was it, id also be scratching my head but folk love a culture war and purses fits right into that.

I think, and i may be wrong, that some users need to get a sense of perspective.