How much did Dean Hall walk away with?

[War Haggis]

I was sitting wondering about this, Did the money we paid for Dayz Stand Alone go into Dean Halls pockets, and how much of that did. I mean if we paid for a game and its not finished and he runs off with half the money is that not technically fraud.

It just seems a bit strange he would start the game up and then leave after getting 2 million people buying the game. It also seems very strange this has not been addressed in any of the gaming news sites. Yes dean hall quit stuff, but non single mention of how much money he actually walked away with of our money.

Anyone got any idea or thoughts on this

[Simplicate]

I don't think he 'left' yet. I believe he said he wanted to stay for the rest of this year then leave and go back to the army.

[Speedbump]

Originally posted by St3am Pink Girl:

I was sitting wondering about this, Did the money we paid for Dayz Stand Alone go into Dean Halls pockets, and how much of that did. I mean if we paid for a game and its not finished and he runs off with half the money is that not technically fraud.

It just seems a bit strange he would start the game up and then leave after getting 2 million people buying the game. It also seems very strange this has not been addressed in any of the gaming news sites. Yes dean hall quit stuff, but non single mention of how much money he actually walked away with of our money.

Anyone got any idea or thoughts on this

It isn't fraud at all. The game is being developed, and this technically isn't even a game. It is the latest build of a project.
He got a percentage, not all of it.
He has his reasons. Look it up. Simply assuming everything is stupid, you will be wrong 90% of the time.

[trocadero]

and its not like hes lining his pockets with the money we bought a game with, ppl that work with the game do need payment or they will not work, kinda how things work around the world. and it wasnt HIS game or money anymore, bohemia owned the rights and still do, he was lead on this project. bohemia still exists like they did years before dean started working there.

[ChupaCabra]

A project leader who develops a game gets the biggest part of the cake. Has he cheated us, everything points to it. Defending a half-finished product is just stupid or you are in a denial phase. No matter what, it seems like the game in the near future will be scrapped and then it will be confirmed that we have been fooled.

[Breitmacher]

Originally posted by St3am Pink Girl:

Anyone got any idea or thoughts on this

dean hall sold dayz, along time ago to BI.
and he sold it before it was avaiable on steam ...
so all your precious money goes to steam and BI.

if you are interrested in dean's thoughts ...

http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1ysdow/dean_hall_to_leave_bohemia_and_step_down_as/

[Breitmacher]

Originally posted by Tarrotin:

A project leader who develops a game gets the biggest part of the cake. Has he cheated us, everything points to it. Defending a half-finished product is just stupid or you are in a denial phase. No matter what, it seems like the game in the near future will be scrapped and then it will be confirmed that we have been fooled.

100% BS, congratulation

Hicks_206Producer 75 Punkte 5 Monate zuvor
Well, I suppose my takeaway after reading the comments is:
There are alot of passionate people that clearly care a great deal about DayZ. Any way you shake it, that in itself is a very good thing.
Fortunately for the DayZ Development Team, and all of you - We have quite a long time ahead of us with Dean at the helm, and a long list of awesome features and content for the next year.
Past that, I need the help of all of you, the passionate DayZ fanbase to keep driving DayZ towards that next great horizon. Bohemia Interactive has every intent to continue developing DayZ past the 1.0 release and beyond. And despite what Dean may think about being able to start work on his next project when DayZ no longer needs his day to day participation, I -know- he won't be able to stop himself from getting involved, and having his two cents heard.

[Speedbump]

Originally posted by Tarrotin:

A project leader who develops a game gets the biggest part of the cake. Has he cheated us, everything points to it. Defending a half-finished product is just stupid or you are in a denial phase. No matter what, it seems like the game in the near future will be scrapped and then it will be confirmed that we have been fooled.

The project will not be scrapped, please do not spread false information.

[Dr_Goodspeed]

at least with 10% so do the math,2.4mil copys at 30$,he takes atleast 7.2mil $.And you say he's going back into the army?ROFL

[Nina]

Originally posted by Dr_Goodspeed:

at least with 10% so do the math,2.4mil copys at 30$,he takes atleast 7.2mil $.And you say he's going back into the army?ROFL

100% of the money doesn't go to Bohemia, and they pay taxes. Your numbers are quite bloated.

That said, I don't think it's our business how much Rocker (or anyone in the team for that matter) is making.

[Breitmacher]

30$ - (5-30% Steam/valve) - taxes - new investements - new devteams =/= 7.2
hes going back home btw .... becuase atm he lives in czech republic and is not speaking the language of that country, maybe wants to be back in New zealand with his family and friends.

start to make his own studio and make some even more better games.

and btw dean is just laughing when someone asks about his ferrari,
cause he hasnt got one.

[Jonboy]

I wonder how much he really was the 'leader'. Dean Hall was the visionary behind the project. The 'ideas' man. Day Z is a multi million pound project. This is big business and I wonder if he found that corporate world rather alien.

[Caxton Gibbet]

Originally posted by Tarrotin:

...Has he cheated us, everything points to it...

Wow, You understand that this comment could be considered libellous right?

At the very least, it is utterly stupid and without foundation. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

[SystemiK]

My personal opinion is that Dean Hall has passed on the DayZ torch long ago.

He sold the rights to the game to Bohemia and in return was given a seat on the dev team, recieved a lump sum up front payment (and I would assume an undisclosed royalty option) The exact terms and numbers of the agreement have never been disclosed but Dean did say once in a post on the original DayZ forums that he had been compensated generously by Bohemia and that the amount was considerably more than the industry average for such an arrangement.

As far as the near future of the game goes, I see Hall as more of a mouthpiece for the game than anything else. I'm sure he still contributes ideas but his days of "steering the ship" have most certainly passed. Hicks seems to have made a smooth transition into that role from what I can tell.

Lets face it, Dean had some visionary ideas which have left an unmistakable mark on the face of gaming into the forseeable future. He also had some pretty bad ideas, his programming skills were far from legendary (though he did an amazing job with what he had to work with). He is famous for his groundbreaking ideas in game design rather than programming, thats all I mean by that...

But to get back to the point, what ever this game manages to become or not become, the responsibility lies solely on the shoulders of the team which Bohemia have assembled to work on it.

As far as I am concerned, Dean Hall is pretty much along for the ride at this point and those of us who love the game owe him at least some small gratitude for getting this thing rolling 28 months ago...

[Dr_Goodspeed]

did i say anywhere that 100% goes to bohemia?he sold the rights to BI and i'm a 100% sure he gets a cut from every copy sold.And coz i invested my money in a project,it is my business where my money goes

Originally posted by Nina:

Originally posted by Dr_Goodspeed:

at least with 10% so do the math,2.4mil copys at 30$,he takes atleast 7.2mil $.And you say he's going back into the army?ROFL

100% of the money doesn't go to Bohemia, and they pay taxes. Your numbers are quite bloated.

That said, I don't think it's our business how much Rocker (or anyone in the team for that matter) is making.

[Nina]

Originally posted by Dr_Goodspeed:

did i say anywhere that 100% goes to bohemia?he sold the rights to BI and i'm a 100% sure he gets a cut from every copy sold.And coz i invested my money in a project,it is my business where my money goes

Originally posted by Nina:

100% of the money doesn't go to Bohemia, and they pay taxes. Your numbers are quite bloated.

That said, I don't think it's our business how much Rocker (or anyone in the team for that matter) is making.

You are not an investor for buying Early Access games.
If DayZ was on Kickstarter, you'd definitely have a valid case.