Remove bases

[ZigZag]

Ruins the game. Having some guys on discord building and hoarding massive number of weapons. Also blocking access to loot areas.

Discord and base building are the biggest negatives of this game.

[ast]

get also into a group and raid their bases.

[ZigZag]

Originally posted by ast:

get also into a group and raid their bases.

Sounds like an extremely boring and tryhard thing to do.

[etwas]

afaik dayone and zero server have basebuilding disabled. both popular servers on various maps.

[MachoManRandySavage]

Ban base building and what are you going to do for fun in the late game?

Ban raiding instead. The balance between building and raiding is all out of whack, will be even worse with 1.18.

What benefits are there to building anymore? None. Now players have grenade launchers, c4, personel mines, along with all the grenades currently in the game. Raiding now takes 30 seconds with no way to defend.

What risks are there to raiding? None. And there should be.

Ban raiding.

[Ranceed]

Or you could ban loot maps and force people to play the vanilla game without a 3rd party mod like Izurvive.

Of course the maps and there loot locations are so ingrained in many players that its too late to make much of a difference

[Coffee]

I hate bases too. I wouldn't mind so much if they could only be built free standing. It's always some jerk boxing in a police station or water pump or some other loot area though.

[ZigZag]

Originally posted by Coffee:

I hate bases too. I wouldn't mind so much if they could only be built free standing. It's always some jerk boxing in a police station or water pump or some other loot area though.

Agree, that's the worst.

Essentially blocking off a good loot spawn and hoarding all the weapons to themselves as they keep spawning.

It's just plain stupid.

[Topher]

At least now the new explosive options make their bases more vulnerable. Before you had to spend an hour running south in Livonia to get 6 grenades and a cooking pot to take out their gated prison.

I agree about the discord divas. Battle eye should just add a script to detect it running in the background and kick those players from official. Community servers could have an option to allow or disallow it. At least the best Dayz YTuber Soursweet never uses is to make his content immersive and now M1ndr is doing the same committing himself to only using radios ingame.

[JayRebirth]

Yeah. I wish they kept it like the mod with just tents and crates.

[Chikuwu]

Originally posted by Topher:

At least now the new explosive options make their bases more vulnerable. Before you had to spend an hour running south in Livonia to get 6 grenades and a cooking pot to take out their gated prison.

I agree about the discord divas. Battle eye should just add a script to detect it running in the background and kick those players from official. Community servers could have an option to allow or disallow it. At least the best Dayz YTuber Soursweet never uses is to make his content immersive and now M1ndr is doing the same committing himself to only using radios ingame.

Most of those content creators have scripted the whole thing with server admins.

[Jimmy]

Originally posted by JayRebirth:

Yeah. I wish they kept it like the mod with just tents and crates.

Just tents and crates? Tents and stashes were certainly in the Arma 2 Mod, but how are you forgetting WALLS and GATES?

[etwas]

Originally posted by MachoManRandySavage:

Ban base building and what are you going to do for fun in the late game?

Ban raiding instead. The balance between building and raiding is all out of whack, will be even worse with 1.18.

What benefits are there to building anymore? None. Now players have grenade launchers, c4, personel mines, along with all the grenades currently in the game. Raiding now takes 30 seconds with no way to defend.

What risks are there to raiding? None. And there should be.

Ban raiding.

balance the game by banning raiding? what kind of balance is that? so people can hoard stuff endless for their next 865 lives?
"it takes 30 seconds to raid" - be sure this explosives will be way more hard to get than it is set right now on experimental (the spawnrate is obviously increased to test the new toys).
so raiding takes some preparation too.
and yes, destroying a wall should be easier than building one. i dont see the problem here. people just overrate bases and want save gear for many characters - yea dayz wont give u that.

[Tarikov]

Or you can let people play how they want and hop on a no base server yourself?

[ZigZag]

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

@OP Im a base builder in this game, nothing i like more than finding a spot with a great view and building up a base. But the effort involved (especially for a lone wolf) is immense, and any player can get through my walls in a matter of seconds so the are actually pretty useless.

What your seeing when you see that wall is an immovable impassable object. Start thinking of it as a piece of wet cardboard, that can be overcome with regular items you find around town.

Personally i think boarding up a police station is silly. So many players will see that and come back an hour later to raid it, its so prominent. Id go as far as to say walled bases in general are way too easy to spot. Iv had mine decimated before, but ya know what... they never found the medium tent with a camo net on it less than 500m away.

Those are the bases you should be worried about, the well hidden ones that you would have to be super lucky to stumble across, that you cant see unless your right on top of it, thats where the real loot is at. Not some boarded up police station in a high traffic area... bet if you came back the next day the boards would be gone and nothing base related left in there :)

Nobody bothers to raid unless a premade discord group which is organized enough to gather all the materials required to break multiple layers of walls.

Casual players like myself, who never use discord, rather enjoy the experience of traveling / meeting strangers who might be friendly, teaming up with randoms. We don't get a chance to "raid" because we don't store our inventory in some base.

Currently it's very difficult for casual players to destroy even a single layer of wall. It would be better if the bases were a LOT more fragile, then the base builder would have to be more stealthy in setting it up so nobody sees it. Or simply make it impossible to board up near / inside buildings with loot.

But in my opinion, bases go against the experience of this game. The fact you can't store your inventory somewhere / stashed, it removes your "safe haven" from the game, and you'll always be in the survival mindset, especially as your personal inventory keeps growing.

[LastMedjai]

i think the proper way to make bases in DayZ, is to never have more than 1 floor (1 wall)
it looks so stupid when there are massive towers, and bases looking like castles...
It should look like a small camp, with a campfire, a few tent, and thats all... it should be camo'd so that its barely visible in the woods, and it should be easy to raid - like a few granades breaking a wall is enough to raid the base.

You want to defend the base? Stay online more often and defend your base with your own gun.

Instead its heavily secured metal bases that have multiple layers of doors and their stash ruins the server economy for everybody, since they have the best, and most deadliest weapons hidden in there, not allowing them to spawn for other players.