Food spawn tables are ♥♥♥♥

[Solstice Initiative]

I played 16 different runs on official servers, and found exactly three cans of food and a pear. That was on 2 different runs, in 3 different towns. 80% of all of the runs I've had so far were death by starvation. The game literally refuses to generate food. Please fix this.

[etwas]

well, for newbies there's no food, for veterans food is no issue. gotta find the middle for that, else it would be too hard/easy.
hunt down some animals.

[zombiemouse]

How to fix (from a noob):
1) Make rocks way more common. I've been playing for a week now and I've literally seen zero rocks.
2) Players spawn with between 2 and 5 apples or pears
3) Cans of food opened with a can opener are full of food. This one makes no sense to me. I open a fresh can of spaghetti and meat balls and it's already half gone.
That's it. That's all they have to do. I WANT to play this game, but it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for new players. If they tweeked these three things the game would be fine.

[Enforcer]

Escrito originalmente por zombiemouse:

How to fix (from a noob):
1) Make rocks way more common. I've been playing for a week now and I've literally seen zero rocks.
2) Players spawn with between 2 and 5 apples or pears
3) Cans of food opened with a can opener are full of food. This one makes no sense to me. I open a fresh can of spaghetti and meat balls and it's already half gone.
That's it. That's all they have to do. I WANT to play this game, but it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for new players. If they tweeked these three things the game would be fine.

1. Agree x100
Tracks are filled with stones and not one you can pick up......needs more spawn points there and respawn should be short. But then again actual stone knives are made of flint.
2. Might make it too easy. Spawning with a small can on community servers already gives you more time that you don't need to make nutrition your first priority anymore.
3. Gameplay decision to give the can opener an important place in a player's inventory. As it is it's still seen as a waste of inventory space because knives don't spill that much content.

[Rose]

Escrito originalmente por zombiemouse:

How to fix (from a noob):
1) Make rocks way more common. I've been playing for a week now and I've literally seen zero rocks.
2) Players spawn with between 2 and 5 apples or pears
3) Cans of food opened with a can opener are full of food. This one makes no sense to me. I open a fresh can of spaghetti and meat balls and it's already half gone.
That's it. That's all they have to do. I WANT to play this game, but it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for new players. If they tweeked these three things the game would be fine.

1- kinda agree. For Chernarus yes.
Livonia, I looked outside my house and theirs like 10 of the dang things.
2- meh, I say make it always a pear just one.
3- using anything other than a Can opener can lose food, which makes sense irl, tho a knife shouldn't lose any ethier

[zombiemouse]

Escrito originalmente por Rose:

Escrito originalmente por zombiemouse:

How to fix (from a noob):
3- using anything other than a Can opener can lose food, which makes sense irl, tho a knife shouldn't lose any ethier

I did not know that non-can openers sacrificed food. Also being a noob I don't have Livonia. I think you gotta buy that extra. But I wasn't exaggerating. I've actually never seen a single rock in this game. One pear gives me just enough time to not get anywhere at all and die. In real life you die of lack of water faster than lack of food. You can survive 4 days without food in real life. In this game you have to eat so much and so often it's impossible for me to play. I can find guns, ammo, armor, crowbars, baseball bats, automatics, unicorns, working tanks, magic lamps, and the infinity gauntlet every game but none of that matters if I can't find a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ apple.

[Chaoslink]

Meanwhile, I find the game still spawns way too much food. You could make it so you get hungry 2x faster and I’d still find it impossible to starve.

[Kraftmeier]

I can confirm that this is only an issue to noobs as i'm one myself. In my first few games this weekend i died from starvation every single time since i did not find canned food at all in like 5-6 hrs. However, doing a little research and trying different approaches fixed it and i have not suffered from food shortage since. So no need to fix anything even from my noob perspective. New players just take on the challenge, it's a survival game!

[Ranceed]

Stop treating food as if it is loot. Instead try farming, fishing, and hunting. How hard can it be to plant some seeds?

[Soondead]

Escrito originalmente por Ranceed:

Stop treating food as if it is loot. Instead try farming, fishing, and hunting. How hard can it be to plant some seeds?

I don't know? How DO you plant seeds? I managed to kill a chicken once, and managed to craft a fire AND light it... how DO you cook meat? IRL I would have stabbed it with a stick and held it over the flame but apparently that's not how it's done in Dayz. Starved to death next to a fire, with fresh meat in my hands. Countless times I've had an empty water bottle but no clue how to fill it. The list just goes on... there are probably solutions out there but they are apparently secrets that must not be passed on to new players, lest they might challenge the established player base.

[ast]

Escrito originalmente por Soondead:

Escrito originalmente por Ranceed:

Stop treating food as if it is loot. Instead try farming, fishing, and hunting. How hard can it be to plant some seeds?

I don't know? How DO you plant seeds? I managed to kill a chicken once, and managed to craft a fire AND light it... how DO you cook meat? IRL I would have stabbed it with a stick and held it over the flame but apparently that's not how it's done in Dayz.

well, that's exactly how it is also done in dayz:

cut a bush that's tall enough to provide you with a long stick and not only short ones, take the stick in your hands and combine the meat you want to roast with it.
(you just have to kill and gut the chicken whatsoever with a knife)

rule of thumb for this game:
if you can't quite grasp its mechanics, use some common sense.
and always keep in mind that everything has to go over your hands, they're central for any action.

[Soondead]

Well, I tried both long and short sticks, held them sideways and upside down, all the while chanting dark curses of spite but apparently it doesn't work if you're holding the meat and then try to combine the stick. Or maybe I was standing on the wrong type of terrain, or didn't carry the magic tool of poultry piercing. Who knows.

And I still don't know how to plant seeds :-|

[ast]

and it's part of the game that not everything is handed to you on a silver plate.

the learning process is part of the game, we've all been there, trial and error.
(or use some external sources if you need someone to guide you)

[ast]

Escrito originalmente por Soondead:

Well, I tried both long and short sticks, held them sideways and upside down, all the while chanting dark curses of spite but apparently it doesn't work if you're holding the meat and then try to combine the stick. Or maybe I was standing on the wrong type of terrain, or didn't carry the magic tool of poultry piercing. Who knows.

And I still don't know how to plant seeds :-|

you've to combine the meat from your inventory.
just open it with the stick in your hands and drag the meat from your backpack whatsoever to your hands (combine, not swap) or on the little symbol for attachements displayed below the stick.

[Ranceed]

Learning how to do things and survive is one of the better parts of this game IMO. Spoon feeding players ruins that, so I try to give clues rather than instructions. Other survivors will expect you to be self sufficient.

I'm pretty certain that if you really thought about it you could figure out which tool you need to plant a seed. Your almost there with the chicken. You can also craft a fishing rod and pull fish from any pond.

If you want step by step training you could try asking other survivors you meet in game. Yeah I know! I tried it several times when I started out.

[Ted]

So... you don't hunt or fish for food? Well since this game doesn't just shower you with loot you have to take matters into your own hands. Start small and be a ruthless chicken hunter and move up from there as you get better gear.