Basebuilding on official hive is pointless

[[TREIBJAGD] Ano]

Hello,
What does bohemia do against server hopping? It ruins game mechanics if you just can switch the server to avoid walls that players did build.

sounds pretty non sense to me

[Crookedyoung]

this shows that the own devs does not trust in their product and make designchoices without any sense....

me personally i dont play on modded servers and like a said before, basebuilding is a design fail at the moment...

[Nica]

Badebuilding is not what you seem to assume it to be. It is not meant to be an epoch style system where your loot is safe unless someone has an m1 abrams. Dont basebuild unless you have someone to protect it. Simple

[Punani]

Originally posted by Nica:

Badebuilding is not what you seem to assume it to be. It is not meant to be an epoch style system where your loot is safe unless someone has an m1 abrams. Dont basebuild unless you have someone to protect it. Simple

This is completely nonsense. Most people want raiding to require effort. The current situation makes basebuilding useless, even when ignoring server hopping on Official.

[Einheri]

Originally posted by Nica:

Badebuilding is not what you seem to assume it to be. It is not meant to be an epoch style system where your loot is safe unless someone has an m1 abrams. Dont basebuild unless you have someone to protect it. Simple

Bases have never been safe in epoch or any other mod. I got raided once while my base was protected by 7 doors (3 digits) and i had 10 safes (4 digits). It just took 4 people and some time. I wasn't logged in for a week, so my favourite enemies raided my base. M1 abrams were not implemented on 99% of server.

[Dr. Sinister]

Originally posted by Punani:

Originally posted by Nica:

Badebuilding is not what you seem to assume it to be. It is not meant to be an epoch style system where your loot is safe unless someone has an m1 abrams. Dont basebuild unless you have someone to protect it. Simple

This is completely nonsense. Most people want raiding to require effort. The current situation makes basebuilding useless, even when ignoring server hopping on Official.

Raiding will require effort if you don't build your base in a spot that says, "hey raid me"

This isn't rust or epoch where we can build sky towers. Hell, this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ base building is a half ass attempt to quell those screaming for base building. The original idea was fortification but it's been proven now that whoever screams the loudest and stomps their feet the hardest will get what they want. A ♥♥♥♥♥♥ base building system to go with a special needs night light

[[TREIBJAGD] Ano]

I dont talk about how easy the mechanics makes it to break into a base. Im talking about glitching by serverhopping...

[Einheri]

Originally posted by TREIBJAGD Ano:

I dont talk about how easy the mechanics makes it to break into a base. Im talking about glitching by serverhopping...

Just play community server mate. It's cancer to look for a good one i know, but once you have a good server with a good admin(team) and a healthy community fun can begin.
There are highly modded server as well as low modded server. Also vanilla, but i don't favour those.

[Dr. Sinister]

Originally posted by TREIBJAGD Ano:

I dont talk about how easy the mechanics makes it to break into a base. Im talking about glitching by serverhopping...

Because it was an after thought do to all the kids screaming and stomping their feet for base building. The original idea was fortification of the already built houses and buildings not this half assed system we have now

[[TREIBJAGD] Ano]

community servers are hugely modded most times... or they missing night/rain... that sucks :/
And yes you can fortfiy actual building very well. Some of they are kind of OP... but on offi server you can just run "through"

[Einheri]

Originally posted by Dr. Sinister:

Originally posted by TREIBJAGD Ano:

I dont talk about how easy the mechanics makes it to break into a base. Im talking about glitching by serverhopping...

Because it was an after thought do to all the kids screaming and stomping their feet for base building. The original idea was fortification of the already built houses and buildings not this half assed system we have now

I don't get why you are complaining. If you don't like basebuilding (even the easily raidable in vanilla) don't build a base. Why would you want to cut that content? For a lot of player basebuilding is endgame content once you geared up. I did play vanilla as well in mod times, but mostly played epoch. (where it took a VERY long time to build a phallus base, which i never did; i did prefer bases in caves on Taviana or old chernarus if you know the positions i mean; never had any issues with the ones camping in their base 24/7 though)
And no, in vanilla raiding takes zero effort. No matter where you build your base. Want to tell me the server you are playing on? I'll find your base and raid it within a month. Simply because Chernarus isn't that big that you can hide forever.

Originally posted by TREIBJAGD Ano:

community servers are hugely modded most times... or they missing night/rain... that sucks :/
And yes you can fortfiy actual building very well. Some of they are kind of OP... but on offi server you can just run "through"

Yeah, i know. It's cancerous to find a good community server that fits your playstyle. Had been like that in mod times as well. Takes some time. Don't lose hope. :D

[Leetbus]

They didn't fix duct tape glitch, so i can destroy any sized base with a single hatchet..

[Zippo]

Originally posted by Nica:

Badebuilding is not what you seem to assume it to be. It is not meant to be an epoch style system where your loot is safe unless someone has an m1 abrams. Dont basebuild unless you have someone to protect it. Simple

Clearly you didn't read what OP said.
He/She is talking about server hoping, not about indestructible bases.

Anyway, to OP: Devs are aware about this flaw and are trying to figure out how to solve this.

[rav]

easy fix: remove character persistence. 1 character per server, whats speaks against it?

[🆄🅽🅲🅻🅴 🅹🅾]

Originally posted by rav:

easy fix: remove character persistence. 1 character per server, whats speaks against it?

Maybe I want to join a friend on another server, or they want to join me. Maybe my server is empty and I am looking for some PVP on another, more populated server.

[Dr. Sinister]

Originally posted by Lennart Bedrager:

Originally posted by Dr. Sinister:

Because it was an after thought do to all the kids screaming and stomping their feet for base building. The original idea was fortification of the already built houses and buildings not this half assed system we have now

I don't get why you are complaining. If you don't like basebuilding (even the easily raidable in vanilla) don't build a base. Why would you want to cut that content? For a lot of player basebuilding is endgame content once you geared up. I did play vanilla as well in mod times, but mostly played epoch. (where it took a VERY long time to build a phallus base, which i never did; i did prefer bases in caves on Taviana or old chernarus if you know the positions i mean; never had any issues with the ones camping in their base 24/7 though)
And no, in vanilla raiding takes zero effort. No matter where you build your base. Want to tell me the server you are playing on? I'll find your base and raid it within a month. Simply because Chernarus isn't that big that you can hide forever.

Oh but it's ok for you to cut the content that I like? Destroying the immersion of DayZ because night time gets too dark or it's too hard to find food.

Where did I say I wanted base building g cut? Oh that's right, I didn't. I'm calling it a piss poor attempt on the developers part to create base building. Again, the original plan before you kids started having temper tantrums, was to fortify the already built house and buildings.