Most people compare DayZ to PUBG

[Smokey]

Title says it. Please read the whole thing before you ♥♥♥♥♥ me out in the replies.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE It seems like a majority of people say things like "PUBG is doing a lot better than DayZ"

Yet I see the two games are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ different. Pubg doesn't have eye zoom yet people are saying if DayZ gets rid of it, they may stop playing. Then why're you playing PUBG?

[Sgt Smash]

Looking at your games list makes me ask, Why the heck did you buy the game in the first place? it clearly ain't for you and surely you could have seen this more than anyone else!

[[CSF] Tman]

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YOu nver answered my question what have they been doing for 4 years with Early Access if the game engine was fully functional and built and support by a 3rd party developer?

just did, they've been overhauling it since day one

[Maca]

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YOu nver answered my question what have they been doing for 4 years with Early Access if the game engine was fully functional and built and support by a 3rd party developer?

just did, they've been overhauling it since day one

Who where overhauling what? They switched over to a more up-to-date version of the unity game engine. lol (You make it sound like they developed the core-architecture)

[[CSF] Tman]

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Looking at your games list makes me ask, Why the heck did you buy the game in the first place? it clearly ain't for you and surely you could have seen this mmore than anyone else!

You don't know me, I have a wide variety of interests in games, I bought arma 2 to play the dayz mod, and I enjoyed it a lot. That's why i wanted to enjoy the standalone version back in 2014. yet the game is terrible. That's why I stayed playing on the arma 2 mod, and eventually went to arma 3 and played the dayz mod on that and guess what? the arma 3 mod is STILL better than the standalone

[[CSF] Tman]

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just did, they've been overhauling it since day one

Who where overhauling what? They switched over to a more up-to-date version of the unity game engine. lol

Yea? You do understand that the DayZ dev team still had more than enough money to buy any talent they needed right?

[Maca]

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and eventually went to arma 3 and played the dayz mod on that and guess what? the arma 3 mod is STILL better than the standalone

Haha, sorry but that is the most stupidest thing ever? Who built the RV Arma III game engine (Without one you simply can't have the other) and modding support in the first place for those Hobbyist modders to create there mods and content? - Sigh

Might as well take credit for building a car from scratch (Ground up) when all you actually did was "replace" some car fenders.

Obviously the mod(s) benefit from the simple fact they function off of the released and development complete Arma III which operates on a fully developed and functional game-engine (RV4), while having a vast library of assets and content both official or community created over the years.

Obviously the "Standalone" is being developed as an independent title on a "new" game engine Enfusion? *Scratches Head*

[Plague, M.D.]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez 🔫Sgt 🆂Ⓜ️🅰🆂🅷:

Looking at your games list makes me ask, Why the heck did you buy the game in the first place? it clearly ain't for you and surely you could have seen this mmore than anyone else!

You don't know me, I have a wide variety of interests in games, I bought arma 2 to play the dayz mod, and I enjoyed it a lot. That's why i wanted to enjoy the standalone version back in 2014. yet the game is terrible. That's why I stayed playing on the arma 2 mod, and eventually went to arma 3 and played the dayz mod on that and guess what? the arma 3 mod is STILL better than the standalone

Then quit whining like a child and go play those instead.

And before you throw out the cliched “oh you have no rebutted for my points” again, your points mean nothing to me. Your opinion means nothing to me. Anyone who has followed the development of DayZ already knows how wrong you are on these “points”.

Again, I think Rust is garbage, but feel no desire to go to the Rust forums and tell people I think it is garbage.

[[CSF] Tman]

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and eventually went to arma 3 and played the dayz mod on that and guess what? the arma 3 mod is STILL better than the standalone

Haha, sorry but that is the most stupidest thing ever? Who built the RV Arma III game engine (Without one you simply can't have the other) and modding support in the first place for those Hobbyist modders to create there mods and content? - Sigh

Might as well take credit for building a car from scratch (Ground up) when all you actually did was "replace" some car fenders.

Obviously the mod(s) benefit from the simple fact they function off of the released and development complete Arma III which operates on a fully developed and functional game-engine (RV4), while having a vast library of assets and content both official or community created over the years.

Obviously the "Standalone" is being developed as an independent title on a "new" game engine Enfusion? *Scratches Head*

aren't they owned by bohemia interactive? or did they jump ship with dean hall?

[Maca]

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aren't they owned by bohemia interactive? or did they jump ship with dean hall?

What owned by bohemia interactive? Arma franchise and DayZ.

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Who where overhauling what? They switched over to a more up-to-date version of the unity game engine. lol

Yea? You do understand that the DayZ dev team still had more than enough money to buy any talent they needed right?

You seem to be forgeting from your "Experience" in software development that a lot of people tend to forget this notion with just throwing money at a project doesn't necessary speed up the development process. There is a tendency to think that if we add extra developers to any effort we can shorten it by the amount of people we add. The thinking is if we add 20% more developers (more manpower) the time to implement the project should therefore decrease by 20%. The reality is that it doesn’t work this way.

There is always a critical path.

Even expanding (hiring/more resources) on the overall development team could slow down the timeline. Even if you’re the best developer in the world someone from the project still has to show you how to setup your environment, again that’s a critical path you just can’t skip.

Sorry but your are clueless.... It is really becoming embarrassing.

[[CSF] Tman]

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You don't know me, I have a wide variety of interests in games, I bought arma 2 to play the dayz mod, and I enjoyed it a lot. That's why i wanted to enjoy the standalone version back in 2014. yet the game is terrible. That's why I stayed playing on the arma 2 mod, and eventually went to arma 3 and played the dayz mod on that and guess what? the arma 3 mod is STILL better than the standalone

Then quit whining like a child and go play those instead.

And before you throw out the cliched “oh you have no rebutted for my points” again, your points mean nothing to me. Your opinion means nothing to me. Anyone who has followed the development of DayZ already knows how wrong you are on these “points”..

so, you are proving my point then? that you guys have no points so all you can say is "lololol go play those instead" instead of responding to me?

[[CSF] Tman]

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aren't they owned by bohemia interactive? or did they jump ship with dean hall?

What owned by bohemia interactive?

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Yea? You do understand that the DayZ dev team still had more than enough money to buy any talent they needed right?

You seem to be forgeting from your "Experience" in software development that a lot of people tend to forget this notion with just throwing money at a project doesn't necessary speed up the development process. There is a tendency to think that if we add extra developers to any effort we can shorten it by the amount of people we add. The thinking is if we add 20% more developers (more manpower) the time to implement the project should therefore decrease by 20%. The reality is that it doesn’t work this way.

There is always a critical path.

Even expanding (hiring/more resources) on the overall development team could slow down the timeline. Even if you’re the best developer in the world someone from the project still has to show you how to setup your environment, again that’s a critical path you just can’t skip.

Sorry but your are clueless.... It is really becoming embarrassing.

You're kidding right "More money doesnt really mean better development"? you do understand that with the money that they had gotten, they could higher people with better experience and therefore speeding up development right?

[Maca]

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so, you are proving my point then? that you guys have no points so all you can say is "lololol go play those instead" instead of responding to me?

I just lololol at you obvious deflections.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/221100/discussions/0/1489987634001325438/?ctp=2#c1489987634005147305

http://steamcommunity.com/app/221100/discussions/0/1489987634001325438/?ctp=2#c1489987634005157730

[Plague, M.D.]

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Then quit whining like a child and go play those instead.

And before you throw out the cliched “oh you have no rebutted for my points” again, your points mean nothing to me. Your opinion means nothing to me. Anyone who has followed the development of DayZ already knows how wrong you are on these “points”..

so, you are proving my point then? that you guys have no points so all you can say is "lololol go play those instead" instead of responding to me?

People have responded to you. Maca has rebutted all of your points. You are just dense and not grasping the concepts. I wouldn’t argue with a brick wall, therefor I will not argue with you. You think the game sucks. That’s a subjective opinion. You need attention so you come here to engage in arguments with random internet people. It’s pathetic and I’m not interested in engaging with it anymore.

[Maca]

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You're kidding right "More money doesnt really mean better development"? you do understand that with the money that they had gotten, they could higher people with better experience and therefore speeding up development right?

Even expanding (hiring/more resources) on the overall development team could slow down the timeline.

Even if you’re the best developer in the world someone from the project still has to show you how to setup your environment

, again that’s a critical path you just can’t skip.

What you think programmers just hit the source-code and off they go (Hit the ground running). I'm not sure you've even experienced a working environment.

[[CSF] Tman]

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so, you are proving my point then? that you guys have no points so all you can say is "lololol go play those instead" instead of responding to me?

I just lololol at you obvious deflections.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/221100/discussions/0/1489987634001325438/?ctp=2#c1489987634005147305

http://steamcommunity.com/app/221100/discussions/0/1489987634001325438/?ctp=2#c1489987634005157730

What are you talking about? I already rebutted those. If you didnt read them I can explain it again. If your development team hires more members with all of the money you made, that means you have more people working on the game. If you're building a house. and hire more people to build that house, that means that the house is going to be built quicker. this is basic math my friend