Never Enough Nitre?

[Winter]

I've searched Google and various forums about this and the answers seem opposite to my query. Basically, there used to be little use? for Nitre, now its absolutely required and people are happy with it. But what I noticed even before moving from vanilla to RoG is that there isn't enough nitre for my purposes.

In vanilla nitre could be used it was gunpowder useful for the rare Deerclops sighting. I happen to be using a mod in vanilla which allowed you to use a very handy flashlight powered by nitre. But there never seemed to be enough of it. Sure I could mine _forever_ it takes a lot more time than harvesting food which I have no problem with.

Now in RoG you need it not only for the endothermic pit but also for ordinary endothermic fires (for travelling) which is something I have a beef with. As nitre also is still needed for gunpowder and now more than ever.

Yesterday as soon as spring hit, I saw the Goose for the first time. I didn't have anything to defend myself with it and even if I did almost every single weapon takes a gazillion successful dodge kiting hits, so I ran away after then let it lay its eggs. I came back and used gunpowder on it after scrambling to farm the mats I would have rather saved up for endothermic fires. I blew up goose... eggs still hatched..

By summer, I ended up with just enough to make a endothermic pit and one fire while travelling.. but that was it. I feel limited to standing around base just like winter time. I ended up dying in summer.. when the hounds came. I just couldn't get around enough.

So given gunpowder is needed even more in ROG there is double the demand for Nitre here. I can imagine there are other mobs even worse from here.

Call this a RoG noobie rant but do you find the balance of nitre drops suitable while playing RoG?


TL:DR: Nitre doesn't seem to drop enough. Regular endothermic fires for travelling suck IMHO.

[Unodus]

Isn't it easier to get nitre in caves? .3.

[Winter]

Oh I didn't go in the caves yet on RoG, i heard it was hot down there too. I will give it a shot this time around. Thanks for the tip. Moose Goose got me really distracted.

[Barking Sands]

Definitely caves for nitre. Just watch out for the rock lobsters populating the planet when you return ...

[elipod]

Other things to concider: you can use hammer on endothernic fires to cut nitre usage in half.
If you're mining lots of stone anyways, you can make endothermic fire pits insted of small fires, this allows you to stick in location for several days and revisit it later.

[Sleeper Service]

There are also some alternatives that can keep you cool you might want to consider. You don't have to rely on endothermic fires as much if you use other stuff. I usually just build a pit for my base and use the Ice-Cube or Fashon Melon for traveling, paired with summer clothing. Storing a lot of Ice for summer and preparing cool food can also be helpfull. Siesta Lean-On is also pretty great. The cooling effect from snoozing in that can allow you to roam arround your base quite a bit.

[McGoodGreen]

In vanilla I personally had so much nitre I couldn't keep it all. I was never a huge fan of gunpowder, it's great and useful but I just never needed it. I always worried too much about the destruction it could cause. But that didn't stop me from making a max stack or two of the gunpowder. I might've used more nitre if I'd ever used gunpowder though.

With ROG, I was pleased with the addition of endo fires and the Morning Star. Gave the resource a bit more variety and added some meanies that make gunpowder much more appealing ((to me)).

I'm sure map generator plays a small role as well in how rich you can start off with nitre above ground. As others have said, caves are awesome resource mines for nitre.

Playing ROG my play style has not changed too much, I still lightly use nitre and have not suffered for it. I'm a multiple base kinda person, so after I've made an endo fire pit everywhere I want, they basically start collecting in the chest again.

tl;dr Nitre is super awesome, I seldom "need" it, no shortage of nitre supplies

[Siege Mentality]

Because blue gems are everywhere now in RoG, once you get your magic tab going you can easily make a Chilled Amulet. It will drop your body temp while boosting sanity. It will actually freeze you so you have to keep an eye on your temperature while wearing it. (Check the Workshop for the mod that displays status, it's awesome and shows your body temp at all times.)

I use Chilled Amulets, and I have at least 25 gunpowder made, an endothermic pit in my base, and a ton of nitre in my inventory.

http://dont-starve-game.wikia.com/wiki/Chilled_Amulet

[Winter]

Thanks everyone for all of your advice, comments and awesome input. This is really helpful.

[Siege Mentality]

@Bonder - If that's how you feel about it, don't use it. I prefer to be able to see the status defined.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=180843799

Feel free to look it over and decide for yourself.