rogue or crook perk deck?

[EkEL]

which of the two is more useful (overkill and deathwish) i already have crew chief and armourer.

Ill build into which ever deck that people think is better. so which deck makes a stronger build?

[imelman]

Crook if you want to be dodgy and protected at same time by using vests.
Rogue if you want to run with an suit and possibly fuguitive/ghost skills.

[Panic Fire]

Rogue if your doing a dodge suit build, (plus pierce build)

Crook if doing a balistic armor build.

[EkEL]

my question would then be which of the two builds is more viable on deathwish loud?

[Jokie155]

Ursprungligen skrivet av EkEL:

my question would then be which of the two builds is more viable on deathwish loud?

I've had much more success with the Rogue deck. The dodge bonuses are just better overall, and ballistic vests don't really have enough armour to justify the trade-off without more skills.

[Swordmouse]

Ursprungligen skrivet av EkEL:

my question would then be which of the two builds is more viable on deathwish loud?

I'd go for crook/armor/dodge build of the two, personally. Dodge is RNG. if the only thing you're wearing to protect yourself is luck, occasionally it will run out, and you'll be on your back wondering what happened.

[EkEL]

i guess this is happening

rouge:1 vote
crook:1 vote

[Panic Fire]

Ursprungligen skrivet av EkEL:

i guess this is happening

rouge:1 vote
crook:1 vote

It really isn't actually.

The rogue deck is focused on dodge chance. Thus its a dodge chance deck. If you are looking to build a dodge chance character then the rogue deck is a very healthy choice.

The crook deck is built on balistic armor upgrades (theres 3 choices. Balistic Armor, Light Balistic Armor, and Heavy Balistic Armor) This plus the tier 1 fug skill Thick Skin makes balistic armor very good and adds dodging to it.

So you either get suit dodge with rogue.

Or you get a small amount of dodge with your balistic armor. Both very good choices.

[Willkwi]

Rogue has served me much better. I have a base Dodge of 50, which gives me a 75% chance to curve bullets when running around.

[EkEL]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Panic Fire:

Ursprungligen skrivet av EkEL:

i guess this is happening

rouge:1 vote
crook:1 vote

It really isn't actually.

The rogue deck is focused on dodge chance. Thus its a dodge chance deck. If you are looking to build a dodge chance character then the rogue deck is a very healthy choice.

The crook deck is built on balistic armor upgrades (theres 3 choices. Balistic Armor, Light Balistic Armor, and Heavy Balistic Armor) This plus the tier 1 fug skill Thick Skin makes balistic armor very good and adds dodging to it.

So you either get suit dodge with rogue.

Or you get a small amount of dodge with your balistic armor. Both very good choices.

what dodge can you get to in ballistic?

[Panic Fire]

Crook Deck = 45% dodge for balistic armor.
Suit = 20%
Light Balistic = 25%
Balistic = 20%
Heavy Balistic = 15%
+10% armor recovery speed for the perk deck

Rogue Deck = 30% dodge

Suit = 40% dodge
Light Balistic = 10%
Balistic = 5%
Heavy = 0%


So for a straight dodge build Suit plus rogue deck is best,

For a balistic vest build crook is a must.

The other thing to consider is other than that the crook only gives you an additional 10% armor recover rate.

The rogue deck on the other hand gives you a 15% chance not to be targeted when near allies, and a 25% chance to pierce enemy armor and 80% increase in weapon swapping speed.

When combined with a ghost build you are looking at a 30% chance not to be targeted when near allies, and a 55% chance to pierce enemy armor.

[EkEL]

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Crook Deck = 45% dodge for balistic armor.
Suit = 20%
Light Balistic = 25%
Balistic = 20%
Heavy Balistic = 15%
+10% armor recovery speed for the perk deck

Rogue Deck = 30% dodge

Suit = 40% dodge
Light Balistic = 10%
Balistic = 5%
Heavy = 0%


So for a straight dodge build Suit plus rogue deck is best,

For a balistic vest build crook is a must.

ah sorry i did kinda mean when building for it.

as in crook with the skills for dodge, vs rouge with skills for suit

that is interesting though

[Panic Fire]

Ursprungligen skrivet av EkEL:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Panic Fire:

Crook Deck = 45% dodge for balistic armor.
Suit = 20%
Light Balistic = 25%
Balistic = 20%
Heavy Balistic = 15%
+10% armor recovery speed for the perk deck

Rogue Deck = 30% dodge

Suit = 40% dodge
Light Balistic = 10%
Balistic = 5%
Heavy = 0%


So for a straight dodge build Suit plus rogue deck is best,

For a balistic vest build crook is a must.

ah sorry i did kinda mean when building for it.

as in crook with the skills for dodge, vs rouge with skills for suit

that is interesting though

Thats just with the perk deck, no skills invloved. They can both get the same skills.

But just for fun

Rogue Perk Deck
Skills Sneaky Bastard, Ghost sprinting, and duck and Cover

Concealment 25 and lower

Suit
Standing 50% dodge
Crouched 65% dodge
Sprinting 75% dodge
Sprint jumping plus crouching 90% dodge

Light Balistic Vest
Standing 20% dodge
Crouched 35% dodge
Sprinting 45% dodge
Sprint jumping plus crouching 60% dodge


Crook Perk Deck
Skills Sneak Bastard, Ghost Sprinting, and duck and cover

Concealment 25 and lower

Suit
Standing 30% dodge
Crouched 45% dodge
Sprinting 55% dodge
Sprint jumping plus crouching 70% dodge

Light Ballistic Vest
Standing 35% dodge
Crouched 50% dodge
Sprinting 60% dodge
Sprint jumping plus crouching 75% dodge

Balistic Vest
Standing 30% dodge
Crouched 45% dodge
Sprinting 55% dodge
Sprint jumping plus crouching 70% dodge

Heavy Balitsitc Vest
Standing 25% dodge
Crouched 40% dodge
Sprinting 50% dodge
Sprint jumping plus crouching 65% dodge

[Panic Fire]

Or to sum it up better, Crook provides 15% more dodge for balistic armor over rogue.

[EkEL]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Panic Fire:

Or to sum it up better, Crook provides 15% more dodge for balistic armor.

awesome, thank you man

i think rouge is the answer for me

[Panic Fire]

Ursprungligen skrivet av EkEL:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Panic Fire:

Or to sum it up better, Crook provides 15% more dodge for balistic armor.

awesome, thank you man

i think rouge is the answer for me

Fair enough, crook is my ussual choice because it plus thick skin makes the heavy balistic armor imo one of the best armors in the game.