Death Wish vs Death Sentence

[GrigT]

Hi guys!
So while reading some of the changes in the new update, it mentions that death sentence has the same enemy health pools as death wish. So what is the difference between the two other than the medic dozer?

[Duende Tuneado]

You know the damage and the Zeal units.

[JeanneOskoure]

The 240 (IIRC) dmg heavy ZEALs with their AR, which means high RoF too.

[GrigT]

Originally posted by JeanneOskoure:

The 240 (IIRC) dmg heavy ZEALs with their AR, which means high RoF too.

So it's the same as One Down but with the added medic and minigun dozer?

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by GrigT:

Originally posted by JeanneOskoure:

The 240 (IIRC) dmg heavy ZEALs with their AR, which means high RoF too.

So it's the same as One Down but with the added medic and minigun dozer?

with less health though.

[Conte]

Originally posted by GrigT:

Originally posted by JeanneOskoure:

The 240 (IIRC) dmg heavy ZEALs with their AR, which means high RoF too.

So it's the same as One Down but with the added medic and minigun dozer?

One Down is now Death Sentece, whose units, the ZEALs, are DeathWish cops, but with more damage, RoF, and the special Dozers.

[DK]

Nothing. There is almost no difference.

-SWATs are reskinned to look like they look now, they do more damage, which breaks half of the perk decks in this game and allows the ICTV to be depleted in a single shot (heaviest armor in game and it can't handle one bullet, GG Jules)

-The pathetic Medic Dozer, which only does...wait for it, 10 DAMAGE!

-Bulldozers have 24000 health, 48000 for the Minigun and Medic Bulldozer

Makes me think that maybe Death Wish should have just been buffed all along and One Down should have never existed, but without the stupidly high damage.

[GrigT]

Originally posted by Dead Kitty:

Nothing. There is almost no difference.

-SWATs are reskinned to look like they look now, they do more damage, which breaks half of the perk decks in this game and allows the ICTV to be depleted in a single shot (heaviest armor in game and it can't handle one bullet, GG Jules)

-The pathetic Medic Dozer, which only does...wait for it, 10 DAMAGE!

-Bulldozers have 24000 health, 48000 for the Minigun and Medic Bulldozer

Makes me think that maybe Death Wish should have just been buffed all along and One Down should have never existed, but without the stupidly high damage.

So basically only dodge works? But at least we can use guns now instead of stupid bows

[Sep]

Originally posted by GrigT:

Originally posted by Dead Kitty:

Nothing. There is almost no difference.

-SWATs are reskinned to look like they look now, they do more damage, which breaks half of the perk decks in this game and allows the ICTV to be depleted in a single shot (heaviest armor in game and it can't handle one bullet, GG Jules)

-The pathetic Medic Dozer, which only does...wait for it, 10 DAMAGE!

-Bulldozers have 24000 health, 48000 for the Minigun and Medic Bulldozer

Makes me think that maybe Death Wish should have just been buffed all along and One Down should have never existed, but without the stupidly high damage.

So basically only dodge works? But at least we can use guns now instead of stupid bows

Anarchist, Stoic, Burglar, Sicario, Armorer. Technically they all work.

[Pawnstar]

Death Wish is a difficulty that is selected when you have a wish to die.

Death Sentence is a difficulty that is selected when you are handed a death sentence, whether or not you wanted to die.

[=TBM= [PHE$] cooper]

Originally posted by GrigT:

So basically only dodge works? But at least we can use guns now instead of stupid bows

This was only the case in the first week of the One Down Update. You are so 2016^^

There are more weapons and perk decks you can use, even before the last OD/DS update.

[Shirosakura]

Other perks work slightly better but not by much since the damage and accuracy of the tan zeals are still sky high but with better reaction and swarming.

[DK]

Originally posted by Silas:

Originally posted by GrigT:

So basically only dodge works? But at least we can use guns now instead of stupid bows

Anarchist, Stoic, Burglar, Sicario, Armorer. Technically they all work.

Burglar is a more useless Rogue. It's only good for stealth, and a decent plan B for loud. But who the hell would choose that over Rogue?

The dodge chance is WAY less, sure you can get quicker armor recovery, but you have to be standing still...and you're not going to be in cover since you obviously had to be outside of it to get shot.

[Alcalata]

Originally posted by JeanneOskoure:

The 240 (IIRC) dmg

225 dmg, so your 230 base health can take a hit.
240 dmg for snipers, so a dodge user with 20 armour (suit) and 230 health can survive a hit.

[Sep]

Originally posted by Dead Kitty:

Originally posted by Silas:

Anarchist, Stoic, Burglar, Sicario, Armorer. Technically they all work.

Burglar is a more useless Rogue. It's only good for stealth, and a decent plan B for loud. But who the hell would choose that over Rogue?

The dodge chance is WAY less, sure you can get quicker armor recovery, but you have to be standing still...and you're not going to be in cover since you obviously had to be outside of it to get shot.

The 55% diversion when pair with Optical Illusion is what make it good. Rogue is lesser by 5%, but don't let it fool you.

[DK]

Originally posted by Silas:

Originally posted by Dead Kitty:

Burglar is a more useless Rogue. It's only good for stealth, and a decent plan B for loud. But who the hell would choose that over Rogue?

The dodge chance is WAY less, sure you can get quicker armor recovery, but you have to be standing still...and you're not going to be in cover since you obviously had to be outside of it to get shot.

The 55% diversion when pair with Optical Illusion is what make it good. Rogue is lesser by 5%, but don't let it fool you.

The sheer amount of enemies on Death Sentence is pretty much going to shadow that advantage. You would have to use suppressors and weapons with a low threat to reduce the chances of being targeted to actually benefit from Burglar, but Rogue is a better dodge deck.