100% Hit miss

[Pertinax]

I just bought EW, got pumped to playing this game again. The scenario near beginning where you have to evac a prisonner gives me a bit of trouble.

I decide to cheese it to go through the stage. I place 3 guys near where i know an alien is going to drop. Chances to hit: 100%, 99% and 100%. 3 misses. Is there a way to mod this out or fix it, this is seriously killing my motivation to go on with my playthrough.

[red255]

Can you like show me a video of you managing to miss 2 times with 100% odds?

its not in the game.

[Pertinax]

It is in the game, it just happened to me. 3 characters. Enemy within. If i install Long war, does that fix it?

[red255]

I need to see what you are doing to have this happen. its not something that happens to me.

[Pertinax]

How is a video going to help? Its the map where the alien spawns on top of the tank. Were all on the rooftop nearby (all on the edge of the rooftop) on the side of the evac exit. 100% 99% 100% chances to hit. They all missed. Thats all there is to it.

I started a long war playthrough, hopefully i dont see this again

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Ignoring the 99% miss because 'Thats Xcom baby'.

IIRC 100% misses can happen due to a bug within the code, something to do with animation and projectile trajectory interfereing with the code which turns a 100% chance into something else. There is also a theory that 100% does not exist in this game it's actaully 99.9% rounded up, in which case there is a .01% to miss.

It is a stupidly rare bug though to the point I would say reloading a save and doing another action will mean you most likely won't see it ever again.

For reference, in over 800+ hours of EU/EW and Long War combined, Iv'e experienced this bug exactly once.

I've also not experienced it while playing Long War but the bug still exists and is well known.

[Fadeway]

One 100% miss is unlikely but believable. Three is so unlikely that I'm certain you made a mistake in interpreting the situation. That's why red is asking for a video.

[red255]

I'm certain of nothing without a video.

doesn't happen in my games, maybe it happens with certain hardware loadouts of certain people.

maybe his game got corrupted. Not really going to speculate here, he's made it clear that guessing wrong is only going to be met with hostility.

I'm curious with what his issue is, but To Be Honest, as its never happened to me I can't really figure what I'd actually do to help.

I've noticed some display errors occasionally where it said the % was different than the actual % was, but going into more info it calculates correctly.

also if he is adjacent to a dropped thin man, he should have 100% chance to hit, unless he's like poisoned or something.

Or maybe something weird happened and he can't hit the thin man because the thin man is already dead, but somehow displayed as a target.

POint is wierd ♥♥♥♥ could be going on in his game. Not going to guess about anything. but if I was to guess, I'd Guess he managed to kill the thin man so hard it messed up the calculation and the game thinks the thin man can't be hit, but for some reason is ALSO still a valid target. making it unkillable.

shouldn't happen.

verify your cache.

[Stardustfire]

100% Hit chance miss only happend in EU because of a display error with rounding the float and display it as integer. This was stamped out with EW. so something is really fishy here when this shoud happen in EW.

[Mhblis]

Yeah would need to see a video of the actual shots and values. Since as said should not happen in EW.

[Nomad]

yeah, its part of the game. Ive had colonel level units with over 100 aim miss a berserk run straight through all of them, with 1 health, and slaughter my most important unit in the final mission. 5 of them missed the same unit.

[Stardustfire]

@Black Soldiers Aim != Hitchance.

[Amanoob105]

Originally posted by Pertinax:

I place 3 guys near where i know an alien is going to drop.

"Where they will drop"? You mean that they all missed on overwatch and when you checked their to-hit on your next turn these were the numbers shown?

If so I think I have the answer.

When shooting on overwatch your (guys) aim is less than if they were shooting normally. So a 100% chance to-hit when in your turn would still be less than then in the enemys turn.

[Pertinax]

Originally posted by Amanoob105:

Originally posted by Pertinax:

I place 3 guys near where i know an alien is going to drop.

"Where they will drop"? You mean that they all missed on overwatch and when you checked their to-hit on your next turn these were the numbers shown?

If so I think I have the answer.

When shooting on overwatch your (guys) aim is less than if they were shooting normally. So a 100% chance to-hit when in your turn would still be less than then in the enemys turn.

Yes, i was about to fill in those details

[Amanoob105]

Originally posted by Pertinax:

Originally posted by Amanoob105:

"Where they will drop"? You mean that they all missed on overwatch and when you checked their to-hit on your next turn these were the numbers shown?

If so I think I have the answer.

When shooting on overwatch your (guys) aim is less than if they were shooting normally. So a 100% chance to-hit when in your turn would still be less than then in the enemys turn.

Yes, i was about to fill in those details

So I was right?

Yay, I iz smart person me.

[red255]

He claimed the chance to hit was 100%, 99% and 100%. I required more information to his claim.

Its hostile to require more information when I doubt the accuracy of his information, which indeed was inaccurate?

TC as mentioned, without the perk 'opportunist' or the Mec perk uh...Advanced Fire control.

shots on overwatch have a -30% chance to hit penalty. they also can't crit.

so your 99% shot was 69% and I'll assume your 100% shots were around 70%.