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I'm losing more trust with Valve. Between the overpriced and old VR Kit, now this BS with dumping their junk version before the real product. I even messaged support before buying the Deck, if there is any chance a newer version will come out in the near future. They responded that they cannot disclose any info.
Battery is so bad and colors are not great, I have noticed. Give me the better version. Really not happy about this scummy business practice!
Donate all the existing stock of Steam Decks to Israel or Africa? 😂
Valve is a business, how does giving products away for free help their business (or customers for that matter)?
When you buy PC/Console gaming hardware, after it has been on the market for over a year, this is the chance you take. Valve hardware engineers from the Steam Deck team stated in multiple interviews over the past year that if they released a new version, they would focus on things like screen and battery life because they don't think performance per watt of AMD's APUs have increased enough to justify a new device at the same power draw and they are waiting until there is a true generational leap.
Source: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/the-community-continues-to-blow-our-minds-valve-talk-the-steam-deck-one-year-on
https://www.theverge.com/23499215/valve-steam-deck-interview-late-2022?s=31
It was still guesswork to know when that updated device with a new screen would be released (or if it would happen at all), so I understand not loving the existence of the deck OLED, because I own the original deck too. But what they chose to do is actually very pro-consumer. They now give you more storage, better battery life, and a better screen for the same price as before. Or they give you the same as before for less money (in the case of the 256GB base model for $400). They could have done something very different and introduced the 512GB OLED model at a price higher than the LCD 512GB model.
When it comes to PC hardware, if you buy something today, it becomes outdated very soon after. You just have to learn to enjoy what you have.
this is why companies don't announce successors until either sales of the original are declining or they're ready to cut the original for the successor.
If I were to upgrade I'd sell my old one if the money would be a problem, and get the new one.
New generation of handhelds from several chinese companies uses newer hardware, have better performance, have fullHD displays (some of them OLED) and arent limited for steam gaming.
Wake up, Valve!
They don’t want to put a power-hungry chip designed for laptops that needs to draw 25-35 watts into their handheld though, Z1 extreme performance is better but it’s not significantly better. Despite being much more powerful on paper, it still can barely manage 1.5x the performance in the best case scenarios. And full HD is just unnecessary in a 7-8 inch screen, it’s a waste of energy unless you are docking it to play and if that’s your main focus then why aren’t you playing on a more powerful laptop or desktop at that point? And no matter how good those handhelds become, they are forever limited by using Windows, something designed for MKB controls, not for gamepads/controllers. I have to question what the hell is wrong with Microsoft for not putting in any effort to make a handheld version of Windows. They could have easily made one by now, but they clearly don’t care enough about the handheld PC market to even bother.
Power hungry? You have no idea.
Personaly im using light gaming miniPC machine with TV.
7940HS (RDNA3 iGPU inside) set on its maximal 54W TDP whole machine takes max 93W during gaming under Windows, with low TDPs its significantly less. You need to know its strong 8core CPU running on 4GHz, so theres a lot of space for optimalisations for lighter, lowpower handheld variant. Imagine this as 4core with lower frequency and low TDP under some light linux distro.
Power-Hungry within the context of a handheld APU like the Aerith/Van Gogh chip inside the Steam Deck (which is designed to pull less than 35w from the entire system). From the perspective of a desktop PC or even a gaming laptop like my Acer Nitro 5 which has a 45watt CPU + 95w 3050ti, the Z1 extreme is relatively efficient for what it does. But when you drop it down to 15w, it loses nearly all of its performance advantage over the Steam Deck. Zen 4 + RDNA 3 sounds nice on paper, but in reality (at 15 watts) it’s not worthy of Valve releasing a new device that is a proper successor.
Much of the Steam Deck’s value to the end user and to developers comes from the fact that it’s a single spec for developers to target that is worth their time. That’s why Cyberpunk 2077 has a “Steam Deck” preset in the graphics settings. I’ve never seen anything like that for the Rog Ally or Ayaneo devices. Steam Deck itself is somewhat niche, but it has stronger adoption that any single 680M/780M-based handheld.
I’m not saying I wouldn’t like to have a handheld from valve with more compute power, because I would. Even if the GPU side is good enough (for 800p 30fps). I would really like to see more CPU performance. If you try to play games like Starfield, Returnal, and others on the deck, it’s just not up to the task. I think having 8c/16t running higher than 3.5GHz would really help out a lot with this.
I think the point of the op is to at least allow people to know it’s coming and let them make up their mind. Rather they let news outlets speak for them where they say that there won’t be a new steam deck for several years and then out of the blue they’re releasing this new version. I am all for them releasing it but they could have given a notice to people in advance to help them decide if they wanted to wait or not. I too bought the 512 only to be greeted with the 1t le and a huge price drop of the one I already bought. Other industries don’t practice that regularly. There are some to be sure but they’re timed releases that have a history and you can more than predict to the date of when they release. I love Steam and valve but this was a bone head move.
Again, specifically clarifying what I originally posted was in context to this discussion regarding SteamDeck / portable displays; which this reply was discussing. What you're posting from rtings is talking about LED TVs vs OLED TVs. LED backlights, and FALD backlights are substantially different than direct-lit or edge-lit LCDs in regards to power efficiency.
As rtings noted, FALD and LED backlit TVs will be anywhere between 1.6x more power use or 1/3 the power use compared the same size OLED depending on content displayed. I don't believe they've done this comparison with typical LCDs (not LED/FALD backlit) displays in a small form factor. Real world testing directly comparing the last LCD revision of the Nintendo Switch to the Switch OLED version, both with the same battery capacity and same hardware otherwise, the Switch OLED gets more battery life on average across a variety of games. Early reviewers testing the Steam Deck OLED vs the latest revision of the Steam Deck LCD also are seeing longer than just what would be expected from a 25% battery increase and process node shrink.
µLED displays will be better than both in terms of color reproduction, brightness, and power efficiency. But those displays are still a bit off in terms of cost effectiveness.