Day 1 DLC

[Karl Toffel]

The dev said there will be no DLC added, and yet here we are

[Lurazius]

Originally posted by pro100wryj:

Originally posted by YinYin:

They are not ported, they are full redesigns.

But I admit I foresaw most people overlooking that.

If you foresaw this, then why did you do it anyways? lmao

[Ossie]

Originally posted by Lurazius:

Originally posted by Os:

this doesnt affect the game at all, you can get those character if you own their previous game, if you dont, the dlc is for you (if you want, you arent force it to buy it)

You mean llb?

yeah, i read that this dlc is a cheaper way to get the characters without having to buy the game

[DaveTheScwede]

Originally posted by YinYin:

If we said that it must've been a few years ago when that was still true.

Quick question @Yinyin, will the DLC characters be coming to Switch? I don't mind cosmetics DLC, so don't sweat it. Indie companies have every right to add past title characters for those that want it

[amerika*]

Yeah, I get the Day 1 DLC. Your code is final for the game but you're still waiting to release. You decide to work on this and you get it done before release. You have four options.

1. Day 1 Paid DLC - people have to pay for. Despite it being understandable, it's never going to sit well with everyone. You've seen the results elsewhere, now you've seen it in your own game.
2. Day 1 Free DLC - people are happy, but it might as well just be part of the base game and it gives you mostly nothing and probably lost in the noise of the hype of the release. Nice, but not great for marketing.
3. Day 30 or 60 Paid DLC - This looks a lot less suspect than day 1 DLC. Even if you got the work done early. This might also bring some players back/get new buyers.
4. Day 30 or 60 Free DLC - The No Man's Sky route where you give players an awesome free update, market the game again, maybe give it a bit of a discount, and you enjoy (hopefully) new sales and happy players. And it's great marketing and gives the devs/game a lot of positive PR.

Personally I prefer option #4 for this type of DLC.

[Wynona]

day 1 dlc is rough, but I'm still not mad because this game is gonna be fire. Its just fun cosmetics and a good way to support the dev even more. Just go full on greed mode with these mr. dev

[Ossie]

Originally posted by amerika*:

Yeah, I get the Day 1 DLC. Your code is final for the game but you're still waiting to release. You decide to work on this and you get it done before release. You have four options.

1. Day 1 Paid DLC - people have to pay for. Despite it being understandable, it's never going to sit well with everyone. You've seen the results elsewhere, now you've seen it in your own game.
2. Day 1 Free DLC - people are happy, but it might as well just be part of the base game and it gives you mostly nothing and probably lost in the noise of the hype of the release. Nice, but not great for marketing.
3. Day 30 or 60 Paid DLC - This looks a lot less suspect than day 1 DLC. Even if you got the work done early. This might also bring some players back/get new buyers.
4. Day 30 or 60 Free DLC - The No Man's Sky route where you give players an awesome free update, market the game again, maybe give it a bit of a discount, and you enjoy (hopefully) new sales and happy players. And it's great marketing and gives the devs/game a lot of positive PR.

Personally I prefer option #4 for this type of DLC.

no mans sky came out in a deplorable state, you cant compare it to this game, they had to do whatever they could to save their game. This dlc is just 2 extra characters you can unlock if you already own llb

[Space Lord Bean]

Day 1 DLC is literally 5 bucks or something. It's the least egregious of launch DLC I've ever seen, especially for actual bonus characters that do nothing for the story and are purely to satisfy some fans who really really need those characters that the devs might not have any desire to implement.

[Love]

Originally posted by YinYin:

If we said that it must've been a few years ago when that was still true.

...

Originally posted by YinYin:

But I admit I foresaw most people overlooking that.

It is odd that at some point of the "few years ago" that this went from "it was still true" to "people overlooking that" referring to paid day1 dlc, without thinking to advise this game would launch with day1 dlc.

The skins for $5 are not the issue. The lack of communication married to the facade of consumer insight transparently shows a limitation on your end, should one look clearly.

When the funk FLUNKS, we all lose the groove.

[Cboxhero]

Originally posted by YinYin:

Originally posted by barikan:

Late addition or not, day 1 DLC of some models ported in from another game is awful.

They are not ported, they are full redesigns.

But I admit I foresaw most people overlooking that.

Stop replying to these clowns, bro. There will be people upset about even decision y'all could make. Game looks absolutely fantastic. Can't wait to play it.

[Bender]

The way I see it, people who haven’t bought the game and are complaining about DLC/the price probably had zero intention of playing it to begin with… a super cheap DLC that ultimately is a side piece to the Soundtrack in the deluxe version is not something to get upset over, especially as it does not impact the story in the slightest.

For the rest of us, we are just super excited the game is out and I for one am glad I can already have the soundtrack on deck.

[Zeron]

Originally posted by Bender:

The way I see it, people who haven’t bought the game and are complaining about DLC/the price probably had zero intention of playing it to begin with… a super cheap DLC that ultimately is a side piece to the Soundtrack in the deluxe version is not something to get upset over, especially as it does not impact the story in the slightest.

For the rest of us, we are just super excited the game is out and I for one am glad I can already have the soundtrack on deck.

Can't speak on other people's behalf, but I was going to immediately buy this game as soon as it became available, even had my money ready and everything.

Day 1 DLC, no matter how useless it is, is still a bad business practice, bad enough to make me prefer to buy when the game is cheaper or maybe not at all (depending on reviews).

Just because YOU don't care as a consumer, doesn't mean other people don't. There's a reason why people are upset over this. Defending bad business practices has been setting terrible precedents and the gaming industry is bad enough nowadays because of that. Give yourself a round of applause for that.

[it's a gabe]

I usually don't mind DLC. I actually got some for Lethal League Blaze and tbh, I expected BRC to have DLC. It only makes sense coming from LLB.

But frankly, for them to say there would be no DLC and for there to be one at release, which don't seem to be JUST cosmetic in a sense... that is low. Even though it's just £4 or so, it's a bit of a blow considering the £35 for the game.

Edit: I have to add that this is extremely hypocritical of a studio who didn't put up pre-orders because they don't believe in such practices, only for there to be a day-1 DLC that could've very well been a pre-order bonus.

Honestly, considering these are Lethal League characters, the best course of action would've been to give this DLC for free for owners of LL and/or LLB. This would've been similar to what Might & Delight do with some playable animals in Meadow, which you unlock by owning other games of theirs.

Alas, here we are. I'm loving the game. It's everything I expected. But this day-1 DLC bs ain't a good look, especially after what they said about pre-orders.

[Bender]

Originally posted by Zeron:

Originally posted by Bender:

The way I see it, people who haven’t bought the game and are complaining about DLC/the price probably had zero intention of playing it to begin with… a super cheap DLC that ultimately is a side piece to the Soundtrack in the deluxe version is not something to get upset over, especially as it does not impact the story in the slightest.

For the rest of us, we are just super excited the game is out and I for one am glad I can already have the soundtrack on deck.

Can't speak on other people's behalf, but I was going to immediately buy this game as soon as it became available, even had my money ready and everything.

Day 1 DLC, no matter how useless it is, is still a bad business practice, bad enough to make me prefer to buy when the game is cheaper or maybe not at all (depending on reviews).

Just because YOU don't care as a consumer, doesn't mean other people don't. There's a reason why people are upset over this. Defending bad business practices has been setting terrible precedents and the gaming industry is bad enough nowadays because of that. Give yourself a round of applause for that.

It’s completely optional, does not impact the game… you can buy just the base game and have a 100% complete experience. And if $5 extra for something they put work into isn’t worth it to you, don’t buy it.

I swear, the level of ‘tism I see around here for a hotly-anticipated game because “oh god no there’s a $5 DLC that impacts nothing, let’s riot” is beyond pathetic.



Just buy the base game. If you were going to hype it up and wanted to buy it, why would unnecessary optional content stop you? I found value in getting the deluxe for the soundtrack, and I should “feel bad” for supporting the artists who worked hard on this game??

Pathetic.

[Shylaar]

Originally posted by Bender:

The way I see it, people who haven’t bought the game and are complaining about DLC/the price probably had zero intention of playing it to begin with… a super cheap DLC that ultimately is a side piece to the Soundtrack in the deluxe version is not something to get upset over, especially as it does not impact the story in the slightest.

For the rest of us, we are just super excited the game is out and I for one am glad I can already have the soundtrack on deck.

It's not just the DLC. It's the base game price, the lack of launch discount, and then the DLC on top of that.
I've been looking forward to this for years but with the release as it is I can just wait until it gets cheaper. What's actually pathetic is that you somehow can't understand this perspective and want to insist that anyone who would decide to hold off for such reasons is merely faking their enthusiasm.

[galacticcorgi]

Originally posted by Shylaar:

Originally posted by Bender:

The way I see it, people who haven’t bought the game and are complaining about DLC/the price probably had zero intention of playing it to begin with… a super cheap DLC that ultimately is a side piece to the Soundtrack in the deluxe version is not something to get upset over, especially as it does not impact the story in the slightest.

For the rest of us, we are just super excited the game is out and I for one am glad I can already have the soundtrack on deck.

It's not just the DLC. It's the base game price, the lack of launch discount, and then the DLC on top of that.
I've been looking forward to this for years but with the release as it is I can just wait until it gets cheaper. What's actually pathetic is that you somehow can't understand this perspective and want to insist that anyone who would decide to hold off for such reasons is merely faking their enthusiasm.

It's $45. You're basically saying you'll only buy it if you can get it for as cheap as possible, with a ton of free ♥♥♥♥ as possible. And you say the DEVS, who worked for years on this, are the greedy ones?