Variant Gargoyle need hard tweaks

[Yes Man]

Since i was banned i have to solo these twin and holy mother of god its just impossible to kill one of them much less two with the SL around 70-80 which is pretty much overleveled and it still hardly tickle them.

[Lucifer_]

Use strike weapons like hammers. You'll melt them. The poison is omega bs tho

[Yes Man]

Originally posted by Lucifer_:

Use strike weapons like hammers. You'll melt them. The poison is omega bs tho

I'm playing samurai tho, must i respec my build?
Deeproot is pretty much optional so i already skipped them so idc much. They still need a huge nerf. Cant beat them without summon ppls.

[Lord Bob]

Originally posted by Yes Man:

Originally posted by Lucifer_:

Use strike weapons like hammers. You'll melt them. The poison is omega bs tho

I'm playing samurai tho, must i respec my build?

Getting a weapon that deals strike damage should be enough. Infuse it so it profits from your main damage stat and try to go to town on them.

Also, iIrc, you can summon D's twin brother if you gave D's armor to him.

[Lucifer_]

Originally posted by Yes Man:

Originally posted by Lucifer_:

Use strike weapons like hammers. You'll melt them. The poison is omega bs tho

I'm playing samurai tho, must i respec my build?

You don't have to but it'll help a lot as they have very high defence against slashing weapons.

[Kraxiloth]

Originally posted by Yes Man:

Since i was banned i have to solo these twin and holy mother of god its just impossible to kill one of them much less two with the SL around 70-80 which is pretty much overleveled and it still hardly tickle them.

Why were you banned, though?

[Yah Yeet]

Just use mimic tear 10+ summon it helps take off some of the tension if you're soloing stuff

[Dizzy Ladybug]

i don't think 70-80 is really overleveled for this fight.

anyways, be patient and always be ready to run from the poison. when the first Gargoyle goes to half health the other comes in, but stick with the first until he's dead. if you can, you can delay your spirit ashes until after the first is dead, that should give you some leeway for the second Gargoyle.

[Kraxiloth]

They're both very weak against strike attacks (hammers and maces). Something to consider.

[Midnight]

Without summons you either have to burn down the first one really fast. Which requires some serious damage. Whittling it down with slashing won't work unless you're really overleveled.

You should have a decent strike option anyway for stuff like this and Crystalians. I use Morning Star on my builds. Low req, bleed, scales well with DEX or STR and you can get it very early.

Other than that you can still fight both they're not that hard to dodge as long as you always keep one of them between you and the other. But there will be so few opening it will take forever.

Honestly just use some low req magic or a summon. There's no reason to beat your head against the wall here.

Also, you can reach Deep Root Depths through Leyndell sewers. For which you'll have to fight Mohg instead.

[Clockwork]

Are you sure level 80 is overleveled? The first one seemed to be identical to the one at Caelid, which is in the Dragonbarrow area, which some people rate to be level 100 or something

Edit: Perhaps it had lower stat, but I didn't notice much difference personally

[Darkstorm]

I have character lvl 75 +6 and host + two cooperators doesn't look easy to me. When I did them solo with mimic tear I got rid of one before second got close(but I had likely higher level). Meanwhile with lvl 75 and three people total for those couple of attempts I had recently one of us always had to have fun with twinblade gargoyle while the other two had to finish off the sword one.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Darkstorm:

I have character lvl 75 +6 and host + two cooperators doesn't look easy to me. When I did them solo with mimic tear I got rid of one before second got close(but I had likely higher level). Meanwhile with lvl 75 and three people total for those couple of attempts I had recently one of us always had to have fun with twinblade gargoyle while the other two had to finish off the sword one.

Summons outside the boss gate increase boss health.

Summons inside (ashes) don't. So obviously you're gonna burn it down faster that way.

[königplatzen]

The main bs is the poison. Even without, it's borderline.
But it's a typical DPS check. How fast can you kill the first, until the second has a chance.
Other than that, I think ranged magic is pretty good to finish off the first one.

But, while we see Godskin Duo unchanged in all the time, there's probably no hope, that Gargoyles get tweaked first. :P

[Clockwork]

Originally posted by königplatzen:

The main bs is the poison. Even without, it's borderline.
But it's a typical DPS check. How fast can you kill the first, until the second has a chance.
Other than that, I think ranged magic is pretty good to finish off the first one.

You just made me remember, when I fought them, they seemed to take turn fighting me. They never attacked simultaneously, which allowed me to finish off the first Gargoyle when it was its turn to attack me

[königplatzen]

Originally posted by Clockwork:

Originally posted by königplatzen:

The main bs is the poison. Even without, it's borderline.
But it's a typical DPS check. How fast can you kill the first, until the second has a chance.
Other than that, I think ranged magic is pretty good to finish off the first one.

You just made me remember, when I fought them, they seemed to take turn fighting me. They never attacked simultaneously, which allowed me to finish off the first Gargoyle when it was its turn to attack me

But the other one is often spreading poison, while you try to fight the other melee. It's hard to find an opening, but not impossible.