A question of dodging

[S'Aihz]

Okay that is a legimate question, does dodge rly feel that slow, delayed and clonky or is it rly on my side? Cause it anoyes the dodge out of me a lot. That dodge is not dodge in this dodging game of dodging gives me the thought that my keyboard must be defect or something, but when i get the hits while dodging even if the weapon/bodypart that is used to attack the PC is not even near him just give me the feeling that there is something wrong.
On the other hand i somehow avoid dmg when i start dodging way to early even befor the opponents attack started.

To get to the technical things on my end i made a speedmeter test while the usual things are running. ER, YT and background stuff:
Ping 15ms / Download 200.8 mpbs
Jitter 2 ms / Upload 55.1 mpbs
System: 32gb Ram / I7700k CPU / 3060 ti gpu
Game is running from a SSD.

Pls tell me if i just dodge wrong, should i do it befor something even happens instead of reacting on attacks and/or bodystances of my opponents?

[This PC]

Are you hum, heavy on weight by any chance ? Dodge speed depends on the weight of your worn gear. (also depends on fried chicken consumption, but that's harder to resolve in a succinct way)

[Alby]

are you on a heavy equip load? if so, you're wearing either too much or too heavy equipment. Try getting it down to at least medium equip load or put some point in endurance to increase your equip load.

[S'Aihz]

No i currently wearing middle and light stuff just for the sake of dodging fast

Edit: Current stam 30 while the weight of my equip is 44.2 of 77.6

[Lord Bob]

Originally posted by S'Aihz:

No i currently wearing middle and light stuff just for the sake of dodging fast

But what does your equip load say?
Does it say light, medium or heavy load?

It's not really about what gear looks the lightest or gives the impression of not being heavy.

[S'Aihz]

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

Originally posted by S'Aihz:

No i currently wearing middle and light stuff just for the sake of dodging fast

But what does your equip load say?
Does it say light, medium or heavy load?

It's not really about what gear looks the lightest or gives the impression of not being heavy.

currently it says middle i try to lower it to light and test it for some hours

[Alby]

then no offense but it's probably on your end. you may need to practice a little more with your timing/direction of dodge. some enemies have delayed attacks so it's easy to mistime a dodge, happens to everyone at some point. when you have dodging down to a T, it doesn't feel clunky or slow.

that or something is legitimately wrong with the application itself, in which case i have no clue lol

[Lord Bob]

I was also wondering, have you been practicing your dodge rolls against some of the giant crabs found in Limgrave?

If I'm not mistaken their breath attack makes you heavy roll regardless of your equip load, just like in Ds3.
Also, your dodge rolls won't work correctly when you use the Ironjar Aromatic.

That's all I can think of right now.

[S'Aihz]

Originally posted by Alby:

then no offense but it's probably on your end. you may need to practice a little more with your timing/direction of dodge. some enemies have delayed attacks so it's easy to mistime a dodge, happens to everyone at some point. when you have dodging down to a T, it doesn't feel clunky or slow.

that or something is legitimately wrong with the application itself, in which case i have no clue lol

Thx i try to dodge more and more and made some progress since i started the game, but can you keep a eye out if you also get the impression that the hitboxes are odd at some point?

[S'Aihz]

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

I was also wondering, have you been practicing your dodge rolls against some of the giant crabs found in Limgrave?

If I'm not mistaken their breath attack makes you heavy roll regardless of your equip load, just like in Ds3.
Also, your dodge rolls won't work correctly when you use the Ironjar Aromatic.

That's all I can think of right now.

No i'm currently fighting a pearlhunter. Yesterday i fought Lansseax and it often seems that he could hit me with his claw attacks even if was under his belly and dodged further to his hind legs. I dont know much about the codes of that attack but it seems i shouldnt get a hit where his arm wouldnt be or reach. No ironjar involved so far

[Alby]

Originally posted by S'Aihz:

Originally posted by Alby:

then no offense but it's probably on your end. you may need to practice a little more with your timing/direction of dodge. some enemies have delayed attacks so it's easy to mistime a dodge, happens to everyone at some point. when you have dodging down to a T, it doesn't feel clunky or slow.

that or something is legitimately wrong with the application itself, in which case i have no clue lol

Thx i try to dodge more and more and made some progress since i started the game, but can you keep a eye out if you also get the impression that the hitboxes are odd at some point?

yea sometimes the game will just go against itself and register a hit that you know 100% you dodged, but that happens very rarely. def not to the degree where it's a common thing. for the most part, its user-level. but don't get discouraged, keep at it and it will eventually click. some attacks in this game require near frame perfect precision so it's normal if you mistime a dodge.

[Lord Bob]

Originally posted by S'Aihz:

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

I was also wondering, have you been practicing your dodge rolls against some of the giant crabs found in Limgrave?

If I'm not mistaken their breath attack makes you heavy roll regardless of your equip load, just like in Ds3.
Also, your dodge rolls won't work correctly when you use the Ironjar Aromatic.

That's all I can think of right now.

No i'm currently fighting a pearlhunter. Yesterday i fought Lansseax and it often seems that he could hit me with his claw attacks even if was under his belly and dodged further to his hind legs. I dont know much about the codes of that attack but it seems i shouldnt get a hit where his arm wouldnt be or reach.

The Bell Bearing Hunters have a grab attack that needs to be dodge rolled at the very last second, otherwise its hitbox will still get you.
Alternatively just run as far away as fast you can.

Lansseax has a claw attack which has an after image made of lightning, that is kind of hard to deal with.
Also she performs a huge slam attack which eventually also reaches you when you're walking towards her hind legs, due to its massive radius.

I believe with a bit of practice you'll get there

[nam hai pham]

Originally posted by S'Aihz:

Okay that is a legimate question, does dodge rly feel that slow, delayed and clonky or is it rly on my side?

no u just bad u think

[Lord Bob]

Originally posted by cho muon 5tr:

Originally posted by S'Aihz:

Okay that is a legimate question, does dodge rly feel that slow, delayed and clonky or is it rly on my side?

no u just bad u think

Going for the Elden Ring subforum ban any% speedrun again buddy?

[S'Aihz]

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

The Bell Bearing Hunters have a grab attack that needs to be dodge rolled at the very last second, otherwise its hitbox will still get you.
Alternatively just run as far away as fast you can.

Lansseax has a claw attack which has an after image made of lightning, that is kind of hard to deal with.
Also she performs a huge slam attack which eventually also reaches you when you're walking towards her hind legs, due to its massive radius.

I believe with a bit of practice you'll get there :er_heart:

Yeah i'm aware of the magic afterglow and it was not that, cause that would be logic explanation for the dmg i got and i wouldnt bring this up^^" But thx for your thoughts

[S'Aihz]

Originally posted by Alby:

yea sometimes the game will just go against itself and register a hit that you know 100% you dodged, but that happens very rarely. def not to the degree where it's a common thing. for the most part, its user-level. but don't get discouraged, keep at it and it will eventually click. some attacks in this game require near frame perfect precision so it's normal if you mistime a dodge.

Might be my bad luck or a talent to run into these rare situations a lot more often than others not only in this game.