How are you supposed to fight...

[Sabaithal]

I don't know this thing's name, its the first enemy you will likely come across in Shadow of the Erdtree. Its the ridiculously agile thing with circular blades and enough poise to ignore greatsword attacks (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ why?).

How do you fight these things "cleanly" (not taking damage) without shields or resorting to just ranged attacks? They are too fast for me to dodge reliably, and while I can just facetank them with a huge weapon that always feels kinda sloppy.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

I don't know this thing's name, its the first enemy you will likely come across in Shadow of the Erdtree. Its the ridiculously agile thing with circular blades and enough poise to ignore greatsword attacks (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ why?).

How do you fight these things "cleanly" (not taking damage) without shields or resorting to just ranged attacks? They are too fast for me to dodge reliably, and while I can just facetank them with a huge weapon that always feels kinda sloppy.

Dodge dodge doodge, it ended its combo, deal damage once and get away, repeat.

I dont know, I already beaten it cleanly and flawlessly a few times in the past but I just hate that thing too, it is obnoxiously too jumpy while moving around nonstop.

[shponglefan]

It comes down to distance management and timing. When I farmed these, I was using the backhand blades. I'd usually charge them when they jumped down so I could get in an initial attack, move out of range of any counter combo, then hit them when they were done.

The Blind Spot skill also came in handy, since it allows for closing the distance much quicker than a regular attack.

[LuckyCheshire]

It's called a Curseblade, and it's an elite enemy all the way through the DLC. That particular one has no guaranteed drops so you can just wander off in literally any other direction and avoid it. Those things really need to have lower poise at least, they're a little overtuned.

[lemns00]

it's objectively the most annoying enemy in the DLC and possibly one of the most annoying souls-like enemies from ever designed, I just try to tank through them until their poise breaks, if that doesnt work I stop wasting my time on them and run away

[Zarod]

you are not supposed to fight in this game

the devs themselves DIDN'T ... so why would you bother with a combat system they probably copy pasted by a template someone else did for them and they were too lazy to fix?

[Shālivāhana]

i swear to god, those curseblades are hard to fight xD ... thats why i stay far and try to spot them and nuke them with invisible spells that they dont dodge so that they die before they reach me xD... i know i take the cowards way out D: but i hate them xD

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by Zarod:

you are not supposed to fight in this game

the devs themselves DIDN'T ... so why would you bother with a combat system they probably copy pasted by a template someone else did for them and they were too lazy to fix?

Look Zarod, I love you, I truly do, but at this point, even I have got to admit that that brain of yours is so perfectly smooth it puts quantum stabilized atom mirrors to shame.

[Zarod]

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

Originally posted by Zarod:

you are not supposed to fight in this game

the devs themselves DIDN'T ... so why would you bother with a combat system they probably copy pasted by a template someone else did for them and they were too lazy to fix?

Look Zarod, I love you, I truly do, but at this point, even I have got to admit that that brain of yours is so perfectly smooth it puts quantum stabilized atom mirrors to shame.

You loving me is easy, as my life was never mine to live, and yet I dedicate it to serve you AND the world.

You don't know what Love is.

[Sc0rpiTr0n]

You can stagger them and interrupt their attacks with two handed big weapon.

My favorite weapon against them is Fire or Lightning Omen Cleaver.
Heavy attack is short ranged but devastating, staggers everything.

If I connect first with my attacks they will never recover and attack again.
But if they surprise me and start spinning and jumping around they can be a problem.

[Noop]

Just use the horse. As with almost any other enemy it trivializes them. Afaik there is only 2 of these enemies that you would need to fight without it and yea for those you either need to learn proper dodging or use smth else like range or rot.

Killing them with the horse is especially easy if you use the new throwing knifes btw. Hitting a headshot with it will stagger them, it's not reliable but if you just run around them with a horse while throwing daggers they will get staggered here and there.

[__]

Optimal way would be to try and keep distance, ideally using ranged attacks. Another way would be by staggering them with heavy weapons.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Zarod:

you are not supposed to fight in this game

the devs themselves DIDN'T ... so why would you bother with a combat system they probably copy pasted by a template someone else did for them and they were too lazy to fix?

Question .....

If the game is all that bad why you continuously keep coming back at the forum to complain about when you already saw people around you "at the forum and in general" just can not agree with you save for less than a handful? )and even among them some dont completely agree with you)....

Would it not be time to have fun playing something else?
Or you consider complaining about how a game functions and complaining about its difficulty like that on a forum rarely someone wil agree with you to be something fun? (just curious on this last question, not saying you consider it fun tho it would not surprise me at this point).

[CB]

elden ring goes back to the 'enemy is fast, attacks fast, staggers you easily, doesn't stagger easily, and moves around like a ninny constantly' well pretty often, and the answer is the same every time.

endure.

blocking and dodging both cost you action economy and stamina. against an enemy that only really pretends to engage with either limitation, it really helps to have a button that basically guarantees you a turn. endure also tends to make heal punishes less obnoxious.

[__]

Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:

Originally posted by Zarod:

you are not supposed to fight in this game

the devs themselves DIDN'T ... so why would you bother with a combat system they probably copy pasted by a template someone else did for them and they were too lazy to fix?

Question .....

If the game is all that bad why you continuously keep coming back at the forum to complain about when you already saw people around you "at the forum and in general" just can not agree with you save for less than a handful? )and even among them some dont completely agree with you)....

Would it not be time to have fun playing something else?
Or you consider complaining about how a game functions and complaining about its difficulty like that on a forum rarely someone wil agree with you to be something fun? (just curious on this last question, not saying you consider it fun tho it would not surprise me at this point).

Did the thought of Zarod being a troll never cross your mind?

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by drunk driver:

Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:

Question .....

If the game is all that bad why you continuously keep coming back at the forum to complain about when you already saw people around you "at the forum and in general" just can not agree with you save for less than a handful? )and even among them some dont completely agree with you)....

Would it not be time to have fun playing something else?
Or you consider complaining about how a game functions and complaining about its difficulty like that on a forum rarely someone wil agree with you to be something fun? (just curious on this last question, not saying you consider it fun tho it would not surprise me at this point).

Did the thought of Zarod being a troll never cross your mind?

Yes, still some people are just obnoxious or too greedy and proud to accept they are not nearly as good as they were thinking they were (hence the troll jealous behavior to feel better about himself while making sure to blame the game to reinforce the idea it is the game that is bad not him), I just got curious to know what he actually is.