PC Shutdown thanks to Easy Anti Cheat

[TheRibbonRed]

Some people said that this has been widely reported, but I'd like to make another thread for more traction on this issue.

I have over 100 hours on the vanilla game, never crashed once. When the DLC drops, EAC confirmed to kill my AMD PC after a couple of minutes running the game. When I run the game with EAC disabled (offline), no problems at all.

I also tried playing Armored Core VI with that game's shipped EAC (no update since 1.06 AFAIK) and that didn't brick my PC. So it had to be this Erdtree DLC's specific EAC.

My rig:
Windows 11 21H2 64bit OS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700X CPU
AMD RX 6700 XT GPU
32GB DDR4 RAM
ASRock B550 Phantom MoBo
Enermax 650W PSU
2TB SSD NVME

[dark-breed]

it is known that windows has a problem with updating some system side eintries after updates of specific eac versions.

[Clockwork]

Which operating system? AMD Ryzen 5 5600X with RX 7900XT here and so far it's working fine but i'm on Windows 10.

[TheRibbonRed]

Clockwork の投稿を引用：

Which operating system? AMD Ryzen 5 5600X with RX 7900XT here and so far it's working fine but i'm on Windows 10.

Ah, right. I forgot to state the OS lol. It's Windows 11 21H2.

[TheRibbonRed]

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

it is known that windows has a problem with updating some system side eintries after updates of specific eac versions.

Odd. Wouldn't Windows be the primary OS EAC is supposed to be working on? It hardly supports Linux (some Proton ports are even borked thanks to EAC).

If you meant by my install, I already tried deleting ER's EAC folder then verified via Steam to reinstall it. It still crashes my PC to a reboot; not even a CTD. I have to disable EAC manually & play offline to even experience this game post-DLC update, and not being able to play online with other people sucks.

[Astral Projection]

Update your BIOS. Note: not chipset, BIOS. It will probably involve needing a flash drive.

Windows will never check if it is out of date and neither will most driver update utilities like CCleaner.

But TBH, not sure what EAC is doing to make PCs crash without an BIOS update. Almost no other software does that.

[dark-breed]

TheRibbonRed の投稿を引用：

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

it is known that windows has a problem with updating some system side eintries after updates of specific eac versions.

Odd. Wouldn't Windows be the primary OS EAC is supposed to be working on? It hardly supports Linux (some Proton ports are even borked thanks to EAC).

If you meant by my install, I already tried deleting ER's EAC folder then verified via Steam to reinstall it. It still crashes my PC to a reboot; not even a CTD. I have to disable EAC manually & play offline to even experience this game post-DLC update, and not being able to play online with other people sucks.

this is not what i mean, windows updates not the system internel settings in some cases for a eac update, happend with elden ring two times after a eac update and you have to remove any remnants of eac from any location where windows stores info about files.

and yes bios plays also a role

eventvwr could give some hint about why the system suddenly rebooted too.

[TheRibbonRed]

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

this is not what i mean, windows updates not the system internel settings in some cases for a eac update, happend with elden ring two times after a eac update and you have to remove any remnants of eac from any location where windows stores info about files.

Really? I have to go that far, just to play this game online? I'd rather wait for a patch or depend on mods to fix this issue.

Astral Projection の投稿を引用：

Update your BIOS. Note: not chipset, BIOS. It will probably involve needing a flash drive.

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But TBH, not sure what EAC is doing to make PCs crash without an BIOS update. Almost no other software does that.

Figured that's what I have to do. AFAIK Asrock BIOS updates are PITA, and yeah it does require a flash drive. I'm just gonna wait for FromSoft's patch or mods to fix my online needs.

EAC is kernel level & known to brick some people's games on "weird" hard/softwares, so I'm not that surprised to see it happens to me this time. Figured I'd create this thread & save some other people like me a day from troubleshooting.

[dark-breed]

TheRibbonRed の投稿を引用：

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

Really? I have to go that far, just to play this game online? I'd rather wait for a patch or depend on mods to fix this issue.


Figured that's what I have to do. AFAIK Asrock BIOS updates are PITA, and yeah it does require a flash drive. I'm just gonna wait for an official patch or mods to fix my online needs.

EAC is kernel level & known to brick some people's games on "weird" hard/softwares, so I'm not that surprised to see it happens to me this time. Figured I'd create this thread & save some other people like me a day from troubleshooting.

delete the 'EasyAntiCheat_EOS' folder in C:\Program Files (x86)

then Use Registry Editor to delete all keys and values that had 'EasyAntiCheat_EOS' to do this search up "REGEDIT" in search.
right-click on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > Find and look up the term EasyAntiCheat_EOS and delete any key or entry you can find.

then go into elden ring's game files in the installation folder and navigate to easy anti cheat, and click on the install_easyanticheat_eos_setup

a prompt will pop up and hit enter.

btw how should a developer be able to fix something that is broken in windows ?

[TheRibbonRed]

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

delete the 'EasyAntiCheat_EOS' folder in C:\Program Files (x86)

then Use Registry Editor to delete all keys and values that had 'EasyAntiCheat_EOS' to do this search up "REGEDIT" in search.
right-click on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > Find and look up the term EasyAntiCheat_EOS and delete any key or entry you can find.

then go into elden ring's game files in the installation folder and navigate to easy anti cheat, and click on the install_easyanticheat_eos_setup

a prompt will pop up and hit enter.

Oh, thanks for that. I'm gonna hold off on trying this, but someone that might really need online this instant would appreciate this.

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

btw how should a developer be able to fix something that is broken in windows ?

Well, it's not "just" Windows as disabling EAC stops the crashes. Whatever this version of EAC is processing is causing the crashes, whether if it's a Windows cache or something else.

[dark-breed]

TheRibbonRed の投稿を引用：

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

delete the 'EasyAntiCheat_EOS' folder in C:\Program Files (x86)

then Use Registry Editor to delete all keys and values that had 'EasyAntiCheat_EOS' to do this search up "REGEDIT" in search.
right-click on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > Find and look up the term EasyAntiCheat_EOS and delete any key or entry you can find.

then go into elden ring's game files in the installation folder and navigate to easy anti cheat, and click on the install_easyanticheat_eos_setup

a prompt will pop up and hit enter.

Oh, thanks for that. I'm gonna hold off on trying this, but someone that might really need online this instant would appreciate this.

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

btw how should a developer be able to fix something that is broken in windows ?

Well, it's not "just" Windows as disabling EAC stops the crashes. Whatever this version of EAC is processing is causing the crashes, whether if it's a Windows cache or something else.

it is performed several hundred times.

[TheRibbonRed]

TheRibbonRed の投稿を引用：

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

btw how should a developer be able to fix something that is broken in windows ?

Well, it's not "just" Windows as disabling EAC stops the crashes. Whatever this version of EAC is processing is causing the crashes, whether if it's a Windows cache or something else.

Oh btw, I forgot to mention but I tried playing Armored Core VI with that game's shipped EAC (no update since 1.06 AFAIK) and that didn't brick my PC. So it had to be this Erdtree DLC's specific EAC.

I'll add this to the main post.

[dark-breed]

TheRibbonRed の投稿を引用：

TheRibbonRed の投稿を引用：

Well, it's not "just" Windows as disabling EAC stops the crashes. Whatever this version of EAC is processing is causing the crashes, whether if it's a Windows cache or something else.

Oh btw, I forgot to mention but I tried playing Armored Core VI with that game's shipped EAC (no update since 1.06 AFAIK) and that didn't brick my PC. So it had to be this Erdtree DLC's specific EAC.

I'll add this to the main post.

nonsense because if you where right with this assumptions nobody would be able to play the game,

additional to this each eac installation is unique there is no shared use.

[TheRibbonRed]

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

nonsense because if you where right with this assumptions nobody would be able to play the game,

Well, all the Steam Deck players are being forced offline for "inappropriate activity detected", and other AMD builds have some sort of CTD. So this ain't just "assumptions".

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

additional to this each eac installation is unique there is no shared use.

That proves my point further.

[dark-breed]

TheRibbonRed の投稿を引用：

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

nonsense because if you where right with this assumptions nobody would be able to play the game,

Well, all the Steam Deck players are being forced offline for "inappropriate activity detected", and other AMD builds have some sort of CTD. So this ain't just "assumptions".

dark-breed の投稿を引用：

additional to this each eac installation is unique there is no shared use.

That proves my point further.

this game is not made to run at linux, the eac problem at linux has a other cause and completely uninstresting for me.

yes your arguments are all assumptions by someone without any tech background.

do you know what this is and does ?

call EasyAntiCheat_EOS_Setup.exe install 773d3a68f76f4b2ebebc5b4127bbad3e


btw my amd builds work perfect i never encountered the problem because i maintain my systems

and you should check my profile, i know exactly what i'm talking about.

[Captain_Cole]

TheRibbonRed の投稿を引用：

Clockwork の投稿を引用：

Which operating system? AMD Ryzen 5 5600X with RX 7900XT here and so far it's working fine but i'm on Windows 10.

Ah, right. I forgot to state the OS lol. It's Windows 11 21H2.

21H2? Any reason you haven't updated since 2021? I'm running the more recent 23H2 and I'm having zero issues. My PC is all AMD (7800x3d, 7900XT, 32GB ram and all NVME storage)