Colossal weapons sucks

[buttchin]

Using guts greatsword and it just suck, most end game boss don't take breaks after huge combo and greatsword attack is sooo slow while a dex weapon stagger most enemy easily, are fast and can do massive bleed damage

[Lord Bob]

Try jump attacks, charge the R2, slap on the Axe Talisman, add the Stonebarb Crystal Tear to your Physick, use the Cragblade Ash of War.
All of this will make stance breaking easy as hell.

Edit: typos

[Swimfan]

Originally posted by buttchin:

Using guts greatsword and it just suck, most end game boss don't take breaks after huge combo and greatsword attack is sooo slow while a dex weapon stagger most enemy easily, are fast and can do massive bleed damage

Agreed ... sadly.

What the poster before me said is true but you really shouldn't need a "cheese strategy" like that to make all of those big-ass weapons reliable in endgame.

It's kinda sad how the bosses start to mimmick Bloodborne-bosses in terms of aggression and speed and your player is kinda stuck with a DKS3 speed set-up. They just don't take regulare breaks anymore that a player can punish from something like Farum A. onwards. At this point in time the community has gotten so good at these games, that From took the questionable balance approach and catered to the more hardcore fans (I fall in the middle but my god are some of the later bosses - and more annoyingly - regular enemies bs in terms of combo potential). Makes me kinda worried for the DLC tbh..

[causality]

Originally posted by buttchin:

Using guts greatsword and it just suck, most end game boss don't take breaks after huge combo and greatsword attack is sooo slow while a dex weapon stagger most enemy easily, are fast and can do massive bleed damage

Wasn't the first RL1 no hit Malenia kill done by someone using a colossal weapon? I dunno man, colossals seem to be working fine.

[buttchin]

The problem is recovery time, you can stagger malinia but he regain her stance before you recover while you can easily stun lock her with any dex weapon

[buttchin]

Originally posted by buttchin:

The problem is recovery time, you can stagger malinia but he regain her stance before you recover while you can easily stun lock her with any dex weapon

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[Lynfinity]

You're just not used to them, is all. Colossals are my favorite and I have no issues finding openings.

Patience and experience, my friend.

[Justin Sane]

RoB FTW

[buttchin]

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

You're just not used to them, is all. Colossals are my favorite and I have no issues finding openings.

Patience and experience, my friend.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3133923949
these are my stats
and im using blood greatsword 25 with talisman- green turtle, great jar, shard of alex and eldtree blessing
i done whole game with guts greatsword but malenia feel impossible, anything i should change

[Alby]

Originally posted by buttchin:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3133923949
these are my stats
and im using blood greatsword 25 with talisman- green turtle, great jar, shard of alex and eldtree blessing
i done whole game with guts greatsword but malenia feel impossible, anything i should change

sick drip, amigo

but you could have best-in-slot gear and 99 stats across the board but like Lyn said, you need to know the windows of opportunity and learn a lil patience to be effective with colossals. the biggest thing is to just keep practicing with them.

sincerely, another fellow unga-bunga build

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by buttchin:

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

You're just not used to them, is all. Colossals are my favorite and I have no issues finding openings.

Patience and experience, my friend.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3133923949
these are my stats
and im using blood greatsword 25 with talisman- green turtle, great jar, shard of alex and eldtree blessing
i done whole game with guts greatsword but malenia feel impossible, anything i should change

I mean, it has nothing to do with stats and whatnot. Are you using the whole moveset, including rolling and running attacks? Which of Malenia's attacks are you trying to punish?

[Weedsmell]

greatsword with great hunt AoW will break Malenia, you dont need anything else except watching out for her BS move

you can still face all the bosses normally with colosals tho, but malenia and human sized bosses get bullied by certain colosal moves (my personal fav is prelate's hammer charged r2)

[Amanita]

You think this is bad? Release elden ring colossal sucked even more.

[cybercybercybercyber4]

run R1. or roll r1 using 2-handed. both are by no means slow.
especially the roll r1 feels absurdly powerful, because the attack homes into the enemy even if the character rolls into a different direction.

[Amins]

Blood Greatsword, well there's your problem. Colossal weapons are way too slow for bleed buildup and it significantly reduces your ability to stagger enemies. Plus you have no Arcane to justify this.

Make it Heavy, take some points away from Faith and put them into Strength. Take some points out of Vigor and put them into Endurance. I can't imagine how you're dealing with stamina management with only 30 Endurance. Wouldn't hurt to level some more either.

Also, if you're pumping up Endurance, you might not need Great Jar Arsenal anymore and can replace it with Radagon Soreseal for even more stat upgrades. Honestly, the +5 Vigor more than makes up for the Damage Negation penalty in my experience.

[Mad Marduk]

I use Gut's Greatsword. I also use HEAVY on it instead of BLOOD. I constantly guard break bosses. Typically in 2-4 hits of Lion's Claw. And that's without using my physick. The only bosses I can remember being specifically trouble to find an opening for with it are gurranq/maliketh. Your problem is that you are trying to build and play like it's a dex build. It's not. Also keep in mind that one of the strengths of a non-elemental (only fire is worth a damn on it anyway) Guts' Greatsword is that it can be buffed so don't forget to apply the appropriate one.