directx11

[achilleas_demetriou]

anyone knows if elden ring will run better on directx11? my pc supports directx12 but the game crashes semi-consistently, something which appears to be somewhat common regardless of what hardware you have. despite this, there are sessions in which no lag or crash occur. in fact, it feels like the more i play this game, the more lag and crashes occur.

[dark-breed]

this game does not run with dx11 in any circumstances. It only runs with dx12 and there is no dx11 code in this game.

if you mean this hack that supposedly switches the game to DX11, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, the hack unlocks dx11 GPU's for dx12_0 mode by reporting a dx12_0 compatible card to the game.
It doesn't affect the game itself in any way, dx11 GPU's are able to run all dx12_0 commands as these commands were originally designed for dx11 but never implemented in dx11 which is the real reason why this hack works in the first place.

If you have big FPS drops or lags, there is not much you can do about on software side, this is caused by the wrong CPU/RAM combination is used, this game needs a big RAM bandwidth.

You can deactivate as much unneeded stuff as you can in background, also the System Device Enumerator can cause much RAM stress during run this game, there are some security stuff in windows you can deactivate too, to get more bandwidth available for the game but if you have below DDR4 3600 MHz RAM or a CPU that does not support such high speed or higher (if you have a CPU that uses a DDR3/DDR4 RAM controller this limits the bandwidth to a point where you get FPS drops up to 30 FPS lower) there is nothing you can do about.

[achilleas_demetriou]

Originally posted by dark-breed:

this game does not run with dx11 in any circumstances. It only runs with dx12 and there is no dx11 code in this game.

if you mean this hack that supposedly switches the game to DX11, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, the hack unlocks dx11 GPU's for dx12_0 mode by reporting a dx12_0 compatible card to the game.
It doesn't affect the game itself in any way, dx11 GPU's are able to run all dx12_0 commands as these commands were originally designed for dx11 but never implemented in dx11 which is the real reason why this hack works in the first place.

If you have big FPS drops or lags, there is not much you can do about on software side, this is caused by the wrong CPU/RAM combination is used, this game needs a big RAM bandwidth.

You can deactivate as much unneeded stuff as you can in background, also the System Device Enumerator can cause much RAM stress during run this game, there are some security stuff in windows you can deactivate too, to get more bandwidth available for the game but if you have below DDR4 3600 MHz RAM or a CPU that does not support such high speed or higher (if you have a CPU that uses a DDR3/DDR4 RAM controller this limits the bandwidth to a point where you get FPS drops up to 30 FPS lower) there is nothing you can do about.

i dont believe ram is the issue as my pc has 32 ram. this is a brand new pc i got from the pc shop a few days ago

[dark-breed]

Originally posted by achilleas_demetriou:

Originally posted by dark-breed:

this game does not run with dx11 in any circumstances. It only runs with dx12 and there is no dx11 code in this game.

if you mean this hack that supposedly switches the game to DX11, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, the hack unlocks dx11 GPU's for dx12_0 mode by reporting a dx12_0 compatible card to the game.
It doesn't affect the game itself in any way, dx11 GPU's are able to run all dx12_0 commands as these commands were originally designed for dx11 but never implemented in dx11 which is the real reason why this hack works in the first place.

If you have big FPS drops or lags, there is not much you can do about on software side, this is caused by the wrong CPU/RAM combination is used, this game needs a big RAM bandwidth.

You can deactivate as much unneeded stuff as you can in background, also the System Device Enumerator can cause much RAM stress during run this game, there are some security stuff in windows you can deactivate too, to get more bandwidth available for the game but if you have below DDR4 3600 MHz RAM or a CPU that does not support such high speed or higher (if you have a CPU that uses a DDR3/DDR4 RAM controller this limits the bandwidth to a point where you get FPS drops up to 30 FPS lower) there is nothing you can do about.

i dont believe ram is the issue as my pc has 32 ram. this is a brand new pc i got from the pc shop a few days ago

what type of RAM how much MHz, what CPU ? 32 GB says nothing a 20 years old DDR3 system can provide 32GB RAM but DDR3 system will not provide enough bandwidth, also low frequenzy DDR4 does not provide enough bandwidth, a CPU with a low frequenzy RAM controller will not provide enough bandwidth. Also a new system with many PCI expess lane usage by too much Controllers, M.2's and other PCI express usage will not provide enough constant bandwidth.

with this tool you can look at the needed specs.

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

this game is a terrible port, that tries to emulate a playstation hardware, in this way it need 4 till 8 times the bandwidth it should need if it where created with PC coding.

[RyuKazé]

When I started playing ER on my laptop that has an iGPU, the came constantly crashed. It took me hours to move from Varré to Church of Elleh cuz 1 step would lead to a freeze and crash. When the dx11 fix was suggested and I tried it, no more crashes. Not one.
After subsebsequent patches, I didn't need it anymore.

Basically, try for yourself, only takes a couple mins to do. Works for some, doesn't for others. Just remember to disable EAC if you are going to try using this method.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by dark-breed:

this game does not run with dx11 in any circumstances. It only runs with dx12 and there is no dx11 code in this game.

if you mean this hack that supposedly switches the game to DX11, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, the hack unlocks dx11 GPU's for dx12_0 mode by reporting a dx12_0 compatible card to the game.
It doesn't affect the game itself in any way, dx11 GPU's are able to run all dx12_0 commands as these commands were originally designed for dx11 but never implemented in dx11 which is the real reason why this hack works in the first place.

You're confusing DirectX API version with Feature Level.

The game emphatically requires DirectX 12.0 (which all versions of Windows 10+ ship with), and can run on Feature Level 11 hardware (which... you buy separately =P).

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In fact, the game's UI framework (Scaleform) is baserd on D3D11, it runs in a compatibility layer (D3D11On12).

[Lylliana of Mirrah]

Originally posted by achilleas_demetriou:

anyone knows if elden ring will run better on directx11? my pc supports directx12 but the game crashes semi-consistently, something which appears to be somewhat common regardless of what hardware you have. despite this, there are sessions in which no lag or crash occur. in fact, it feels like the more i play this game, the more lag and crashes occur.

yes you can run ELDEN RING on DX11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZuJFPdEDlo&t=92s

[achilleas_demetriou]

Originally posted by dark-breed:

Originally posted by achilleas_demetriou:

i dont believe ram is the issue as my pc has 32 ram. this is a brand new pc i got from the pc shop a few days ago

what type of RAM how much MHz, what CPU ? 32 GB says nothing a 20 years old DDR3 system can provide 32GB RAM but DDR3 system will not provide enough bandwidth, also low frequenzy DDR4 does not provide enough bandwidth, a CPU with a low frequenzy RAM controller will not provide enough bandwidth. Also a new system with many PCI expess lane usage by too much Controllers, M.2's and other PCI express usage will not provide enough constant bandwidth.

with this tool you can look at the needed specs.

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

this game is a terrible port, that tries to emulate a playstation hardware, in this way it need 4 till 8 times the bandwidth it should need if it where created with PC coding.

type of ram: DRR5 (Micron)
ram: 32GB
cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics

forgot the ram brandwidth which is 112.1 GB/s

not sure what you mean exactly by 'how much Mhz

[dark-breed]

Originally posted by Kaldaieℵ₀:

Originally posted by dark-breed:

this game does not run with dx11 in any circumstances. It only runs with dx12 and there is no dx11 code in this game.

if you mean this hack that supposedly switches the game to DX11, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, the hack unlocks dx11 GPU's for dx12_0 mode by reporting a dx12_0 compatible card to the game.
It doesn't affect the game itself in any way, dx11 GPU's are able to run all dx12_0 commands as these commands were originally designed for dx11 but never implemented in dx11 which is the real reason why this hack works in the first place.

You're confusing DirectX API version with Feature Level.

The game emphatically requires DirectX 12.0 (which all versions of Windows 10+ ship with), and can run on Feature Level 11 hardware (which... you buy separately =P).

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In fact, the game's UI framework (Scaleform) is baserd on D3D11, it runs in a compatibility layer (D3D11On12).

This is completely wrong there is no dx11 Code in this game.

[Ulmace]

Originally posted by achilleas_demetriou:

cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics

ahum

[dark-breed]

Originally posted by achilleas_demetriou:

Originally posted by dark-breed:

what type of RAM how much MHz, what CPU ? 32 GB says nothing a 20 years old DDR3 system can provide 32GB RAM but DDR3 system will not provide enough bandwidth, also low frequenzy DDR4 does not provide enough bandwidth, a CPU with a low frequenzy RAM controller will not provide enough bandwidth. Also a new system with many PCI expess lane usage by too much Controllers, M.2's and other PCI express usage will not provide enough constant bandwidth.

with this tool you can look at the needed specs.

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

this game is a terrible port, that tries to emulate a playstation hardware, in this way it need 4 till 8 times the bandwidth it should need if it where created with PC coding.

type of ram: DRR5 (Micron)
ram: 32GB
cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics

forgot the ram brandwidth which is 112.1 GB/s

not sure what you mean exactly by 'how much Mhz

this CPU does not support DDR5 it only supports DDR4 2933 MHz
and has only PCI express 3.0 support and have only a bandwidth of 22,9 GB/s. ( ranked and ganged mode it would be at about 45 GB/s but if your mainboard is a magic board that let you run DDR5 with a DDR4 CPU it will never get more than 22,9 GB/s)

it is simply a really bad CPU to play this game.

[RyuKazé]

Originally posted by Ulmace:

Originally posted by achilleas_demetriou:

cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics

ahum

My laptop is a Ryzen 3 3200U w/ Vega 3 GFX. He should def be able to play with some fixes.

[dark-breed]

Originally posted by RyuKazé:

Originally posted by Ulmace:

ahum

My laptop is a Ryzen 3 3200U w/ Vega 3 GFX. He should def be able to play with some fixes.

so now i know you are lying about your performance, this CPU is far away from be able to get more than 50 FPS and will mostly run with less than 35 FPS.

Fanboys are such liars and accept a bad game performance as "good".

[dark-breed]

Originally posted by Ulmace:

Originally posted by achilleas_demetriou:

cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics

ahum

yeah the same i was thinking.

[Ulmace]

Originally posted by RyuKazé:

Originally posted by Ulmace:

ahum

My laptop is a Ryzen 3 3200U w/ Vega 3 GFX. He should def be able to play with some fixes.

sure but it aint gonna be smooth, as a brand new purchase OP might be expecting to much from this.

[Ulmace]

Originally posted by dark-breed:

Originally posted by RyuKazé:

My laptop is a Ryzen 3 3200U w/ Vega 3 GFX. He should def be able to play with some fixes.

so now i know you are lying about your performance, this CPU is far away from be able to get more than 50 FPS and will mostly run with less than 35 FPS.

Fanboys are such liars and accept a bad game performance as "good".

a stable 30 fps can deliver a fine gaming experience, if thats what you are used to.