How to make Wattson and Lifeline more meta.

[Holy Athena]

(Tried posting this on Reddit.. I never use Reddit.. I hate Reddit.. but I need 3 days AND 50 karma to post... because apparently reddit shills think EVERYONE uses reddit.... So if you like these idea's, and can post on reddit.. feel free to copy paste)

This game has evolved alot over the years. People don't play it slow and tactical as they did before. It's hyper aggressive, and on the seat of your pants game-play 24/7. It has to be, especially in ranked, as there wont' be anyone left anymore towards the end of the game, except maybe 1 or 2 squads.. usually not even full squads at that point. You'll never climb the latter of ranked if you aren't third partying the third party who just third partied that other third party.

There is nothing wrong with that of course, but some champs have suffered from this meta, and player change. With champions like Seer giving your team permanent wall hacks, and Bloodhound buffs tracking, and scanning every 20 seconds in a fight. Hyper aggressive game-play is at an all time high. Add in champs like Octane, Crypto, Fuse, Revenant, and Valkyrie, they all play into this meta extremely well, and push it to the edge bringing their own unique take and angles on their aggressive nature. Even loba, with her black market allows for fast looting, and get to the next fight asap style of hyper aggressiveness.

Even older champs like Gibraltar, and Caustic who are technically "defense" focused champs, still excel well in this aggressive style of meta because of how well their kits synergize with being aggressive. Caustic being a glorious example of this by barring doors with his gas traps to a team thinking their smart fortifying up in a building and throwing his ultimate in, to watch them suffocate and run around like trapped rats.

Playing "Defensive" is simply not a choice anymore, and even characters like Rampart who again are more focused on it, still excel amazingly well at being aggressive, throwing down rampart walls and sheela in an aggressive manner works amazingly well.
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The two champs that I feel are hurt hard by this meta change, is Lifeline and Wattson. I feel as though I can say this, as I love support champs, and mained lifeline since day 1 season 1. I love how her champ works, and her ultimate was always kind of niche, but usually helpful back in the earlier seasons when the games played out much slower. Wattson was struggling since her initial release as the game was evolving at that point into more hyper aggressive styles. Though this was still before the time of the grenade nerfs, so her ultimate was very useful against the grenade spams that were often seen towards the end of the match in the smaller circles. (When everyone could stack 3 grenades per slot, not just fuze).

So I'd like to give my suggestions, and hope the devs take them into account for potential changes to my two favorite champs. (Wattson I barely have 10 hours playing as, despite her being my favorite personality and champ even over lifeline, just due to how useless she is as a whole).

I believe every champ can be meta, and a powerful pick in this game. And I believe these two can be just as strong.

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Lifeline: I'll do Lifelines first, as she is the shortest, and quickest.. My only real problem with Lifeline is her ultimate, and I want to make the argument of why.

Argument: With champions like Loba who can yoink and go, there will always be enough loot for her to gear up after every fight along with her squad grab the ammo they need and keep going. Loba gives every teammate TWO slots to pick whatever they want from, and generally there is ALOT of loot in most cases, whether after a fight, or at the start... or whenever she decides to throw that sucker down..

Lifeline gets 3 slots, for 3 people, and its randomized.. Not only that, EVERYONE on the map can see it come down and the team has to wait a long time for that care package to actually drop.. Even with a guaranteed upgrade for someone, it's still 3 people fighting over 3 random things. (Sometimes only just 2, as 1 of the slots is usually filled with useless syringes and shield charges.)

This completely goes against the hyper aggressive style of play you have to have. In-fact it only hurts the team in every way. Not only are they forced to wait, and miss out on getting kills, RP, or an advantage, it will generally call everyone else to them as well, telling them right where they are, and that they're hurting for loot. (Why else would you call down such a limited loot box to begin with, giving away your position and advantage if you weren't seriously hurting for loot.)

Suggested Change: I actually have 2 suggested changes for her ultimate. I don't know which would be better, but I feel both would be a good change.

Idea 1: Remove her ultimate as it is, and instead make it empower her tactical, giving it a dome shield, that cannot be broken.

Idea 2: The ultimate acts like an empowered tactical, picking someone up, but with some shields, and more health. (Similar to a gold backpack). The Gold backpack doesn't stack 1:1 with her ultimate, it will add more but at a significantly reduced rate. (This allows someone else to get the gold backpack on the team, rather than just always being for lifeline if you have one.)

This ultimate can be used at the same time as her regular tactical as well. (If both team members are down).

Side note: I'd still like to see her shield come back as well for her drone reviving. I never saw this as OP, and a good grenade, or different angle can still get around it pretty easily, especially now with the hyper aggressive gameplay style.

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Wattons: I feel as though Wattson really needs a complete rework, but I'm going to make suggetions to what she already has instead and how I think they could be improved to make her more meta.

That being said, I think her electric fence idea as a whole just needs to be scrapped.. Playing defensive simply doesn't work, and they are too easy to destroy. (Even if you made them less easy) There is just no way they can work in your favor in 99/100 times as psuedo aggressive play style that works as both offensive and defensive.

Suggested Change if we are re doing a tactical: If I had a choice, I'd remove the energy fences, and add something else that plays into her kit more, something along the lines of a weak offensive tactical that is good at CCing, or doing a little damage. (Like Fuzes tactical, or Valkyries). In this sense, it could be her throwing an energized rope or cable that shocks the area, causing a slow effect, which will drain the shield from anyone near it, or burn their hp if they have no shield. She can either let it stay there as a CC area, or activate it a second time to make it explode doing 1 pegs worth of shield damage instead and destroying it. (With a delay between the toss and the re activation. So people can't abuse it mid fight)

Suggested Changes:

Tactical: Make her fences hurt more, and be harder to destroy.. There really isn't much you can do with these as of now, but making them require more damage to destroy, and making them hurt more going through them would be a huge boon. Right now they tickle, and there is really no reason to go through them to begin with as it takes half a second to simply destroy it with 1 bullet anyway.

Ultimate: The charge on her ultimate is very weak.. Either get rid of it, or buff it, so it's actually worthwhile. Additionally I believe it should boost the energy weapons of anyone who activates it while holding an energy weapon. Similar to a temporary Turbo charger, that works on any energy weapon, or deal shield damage over time to enemies near it, while charging her own teams.

Passive: Immune to electrifying damage (From other Wattsons, similar to how Caustic is immune to other caustics), and empowers energy weapons, (similar to Rampart with LMGs). For Wattson it could be faster reload, and higher magazine capacity across the board for them.

[_S4murai_0]

4 Kilometers of essay. Better take my coffe and popcorn before reading this. (Yeah coffe and popcorn is perfect)

[天佑中共🐥the strongest]

give Wattson fence small knockback and stun

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by 中共万岁🐥Revelation 22:22:

give Wattson fence small knockback and stun

It already has a soft stun.

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by Moorio:

4 Kilometers of essay. Better take my coffe and popcorn before reading this. (Yeah coffe and popcorn is perfect)

amazing what a schooled, and intelligent mind can do eh?

[Laughing kookaburra]

wattson was nerf like 4 times... she's utterly garbage now, nobody uses wattson anymore
Lifeline is still somewhat useful with her passive but her ultimate is trash, it should be something like an AOE heal / revive not an useless pack

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by Compa Desu:

wattson was nerf like 4 times... she's utterly garbage now, nobody uses wattson anymore
Lifeline is still somewhat useful with her passive but her ultimate is trash, it should be something like an AOE heal / revive not an useless pack

Pretty much exactly what my post says. Should give it a read? (I assumed you didn't, sorry)

[Laughing kookaburra]

your post is too long

[Sep]

You never thought the shield is OP because you only think from the perspective of being solo player.

Grenade isn't the sort of luxury that you can always have. The smaller the ring goes, the odd of having grenade in your hand become lesser cause you need to use it for multiple other purpose apart from trying to deny the revive.

With gibby as your partner, a combination of dome shield and revive shield makes it impossible to stop the revive. Add in with the possibility of the lifeline having guardian angel, it literally force one to takedown lifeline first if they ever want to have a chances to win against the opponent.

Need to remind you that was under circumstances of 3v3, not always going to have that sort of luxury. At 2v3, this turn into a literal nightmare.

The only fix his ultimate need is a guarantee guardian angel or gold helmet.

[[N63] chrisragnar]

The best way to make other characters viable would be to add back low profile for octane and wraith.
Crypto needs a big buff tho.
I think lifeline is pretty powerful.

[Knee]

i think wattson needs the ability to deploy her fences more quickly and have the ability to create more complex fences

20+ seconds per node recharge is kind of ridiculous (especially since u need 2 nodes to actually make a fence)

either reduce the cooldown or have her start with 6 node slots instead of 4

id also like to have more than 2 connections per node so it’s more difficult to figure out what nodes to shoot to gain entry to a building

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by Compa Desu:

your post is too long

Your attention span, and comprehension is just too small.

[qmqz]

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

Originally posted by Compa Desu:

your post is too long

Your attention span, and comprehension is just too small.

nah. your post is just too long, moron. use bullet points next time for changes instead of paragraphs.

we're gamers, learn your audience.

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by qmqz:

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

Your attention span, and comprehension is just too small.

nah. your post is just too long, moron. use bullet points next time for changes instead of paragraphs.

we're gamers, learn your audience.

I'd rather know the people who respond, have the mental capacity to even understand what is written. If you can't read a few paragraphs, then you probably don't.

I do know my audience, that's why I did it :)

[qmqz]

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

Originally posted by qmqz:

nah. your post is just too long, moron. use bullet points next time for changes instead of paragraphs.

we're gamers, learn your audience.

I'd rather know the people who respond, have the mental capacity to even understand what is written. If you can't read a few paragraphs, then you probably don't.

I do know my audience, that's why I did it :)

not wanting to read some loser's novella has no correlation to mental capacity. ironically, speaking of mental capacity, you should try to allocate your other few remaining brain cells to properly writing out a better presentation of what you believe should be changed, so people actually bother giving you feedback.

also, if you knew your audience, you'd take this to reddit, not steam discussions.

on a side note, ♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by qmqz:

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

I'd rather know the people who respond, have the mental capacity to even understand what is written. If you can't read a few paragraphs, then you probably don't.

I do know my audience, that's why I did it :)

not wanting to read some loser's novella has no correlation to mental capacity. ironically, speaking of mental capacity, you should try to allocate your other few remaining brain cells to properly writing out a better presentation of what you believe should be changed, so people actually bother giving you feedback.

also, if you knew your audience, you'd take this to reddit, not steam discussions.

on a side note, ♥♥♥♥♥♥

Interesting...

1) If you actually read and weren't a troll, you'd see literally the first line of my post explains why its not on reddit...

2) you show extreme lack of social skills, and mental fortitude by your post in general, by suggesting that being thorough, and descriptive of the problems, and reasons, is somehow "not well written", and that that is somehow wrong of me.

3) Anybody who has the mental capacity and cares about the subject, will have no problem with a well written, and well thought out post about the situation at hand.

4) The fact you're a troll and or even making the argument you you made, already proves I'm correct in all this. So... just by default of breathing and typing you proved my point. Congratulations.

5) Stop straw manning. Either discuss the topic at hand, or bow to the fact you're incapable of reading and understanding a long post.

6) Or prove me wrong, read it, and write an equally well thought out and logical reason of why I am or am not correct in my thought process.

It's really not hard to show intelligence, and some actual thought process past being a mentally incapable troll.