Crusades in crusader kings are the WORST

[Plushy]

4 times the pope has made a crusade for England, 4 times they beach right next to the enemy and get absolutely desimated.

Losing 100.000 soldiers, while only killing about 8.000 Saxons and then the crusade ends.

The best one can achieve, is go with the crusade, beach and not fight the enemy, get the crusader trait and then just sail back to your own lands.

Best regards

[Deusmodeus]

or you can just win the crusade by landing in a corner of the targeted nation with a siege focused MAA units. as long as you kite the Main enemy army, your secondary unit can rapidly siege down the target.

[Devil_JCS]

lol, you think that's bad? It gets worse when the Pope calls a crusade for anything in the Middle East or anything remotely far away from Rome. You get the same scenario that you mentioned except add starvation in on top of that. It's because all allied armies just sit on Rome while waiting for the rest of the troops to arrive. Obviously Rome's supply limit can't handle those numbers, even if it has 100 development (which it won't).

The "fix" for crusaders Paradox did a while back only made things slightly better.

Also, this isn't really a crusades problem when it comes to disembarking. It's another case of the AI being completely stupid as usual. It does this in regular wars too.

[ricardo_traeger]

The KI is to stupid to win a Crusade against strong enemies. I have lost every crusade vs. Jerusalem, so the Moslems. They kicked every time our asses. But crusades vs. smallers fractions, for example Spain or Polen are possible.

[brownacs]

Originally posted by Devil_JCS:

lol, you think that's bad? It gets worse when the Pope calls a crusade for anything in the Middle East or anything remotely far away from Rome. You get the same scenario that you mentioned except add starvation in on top of that. It's because all allied armies just sit on Rome while waiting for the rest of the troops to arrive. Obviously Rome's supply limit can't handle those numbers, even if it has 100 development (which it won't).

The "fix" for crusaders Paradox did a while back only made things slightly better.

Also, this isn't really a crusades problem when it comes to disembarking. It's another case of the AI being completely stupid as usual. It does this in regular wars too.

Yeah, this pretty much. The AI's relatively (emphasis on relatively) competent when it comes to crusading in Europe.