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Axiom 2022 年 3 月 14 日 上午 3:14
Graphics worse than WH2?
I really wanted to like this game as I was getting into TW:WH2 quite a bit, but when I fired this game up I was really surprised to see regressed graphics. It was like... noticeably bad, noticeably worse than WH2. Blurry graphics, slightly cartoonish, and outlines.

I refunded the game at the time, and left a negative review - however I plan to buy the game again and adjust my review when the game is fixed, graphics & optimization primarily.

Has this been accomplished yet? Can anyone tell me the state of the graphics and how they compare to TW:WH2? I'm really hoping they've had some adjustments and the graphics are better now.
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puRe 2022 年 4 月 23 日 上午 7:26 
引用自 Pedro le Maçon
引用自 Shepherd
The graphics have gotten worse with each game IMO. Warhammer 1 looks better than 2 and especially 3. Performance has gotten worse with each game while looking worse.

WH1 - Gritty, dark look
WH2 - Everything is a tropical island, weird sharpening
WH3 - Borderline cartoon look

exactly, and dont be missunderstanding, WII had poor graphism too, WIII is just worst than worst

I prefer the new cleaner campaign map artstyle over the older ones, the actual battles are a bit different though. Some things look better in WH3, others in the predecessors. It would be great if they hadn't removed a lot of the post processing and I hope they fix the old / reused models with the release of IE.

引用自 Ainess
What is the point of making a freaking WARHAMMER game look less gritty and more cartoonish? Are they trying to get some of the Fortnite playerbase to jump games, lol?

Even though I like most of the new colourful additions, it's definitely a missed opportunity that they didn't include Three Kingdoms Post Effects setting. People can choose if they like more vibrant colours, or a more washed out darker look like in the previous games. Problem solved with a "simple" addition under the graphics options.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVCwjf2CHk8
JFK 2022 年 4 月 23 日 上午 9:09 
yes the graphics are way less realistic than in WH2, and some textures are not even in full HD for units and heroes. But you can try a reshade, the game will look better and it will hide some low res textures
eRe4s3r 2022 年 4 月 25 日 下午 4:58 
引用自 Mazisky
引用自 eRe4s3r
Well what is pretty or not is debatable, but what is not debatable is that WH3 is uglier more often than it should be. And CA really dropped the ball on battle map light and ambiance, yet again.

And for me personally, until this mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2037195655
Is in WH3 I don't think I'd even want to reinstall

And just to hone it in, to me what matters is the mood on the battlefield, the light setup, the scene, how it feels.

Like this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2343786832

Or really this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2104352783

And my all time favourite map shot thing detail oddity.... ;p
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1906121165

Someone gotta make a mod to achieve this in WH3 please

I am not saying all maps look THAT good in WH2, even with mod, but I can find places I adore visually in WH2, I could not in WH3.

This should not be a thing, WH3 is more modern, has better visual technical features, and yet... it looks ugly and wonky. This irks me way more than I ever wanted to admit.


I made that mod, glad you enjoyed it.

Anyway after exploring all the maps and the lighting of Warhammer 3 I can safely tell it looks better than vanilla unmodded Wh2, some lighting is extremely good and require very little tweak.

The main issues are those pink and green lighting presets or some overbright night or snow maps, but the potential is higher than wh2, there are many new graphics features and things not possible with wh2, which means wh3+mods will be better than wh2+mods in terms of look.

I have to admit I my have spoiled my perception of WH3 with your mod, because I haven't seen vanilla WH2 maps in ages. But even if you had the perfect light and ambience in WH3, there is still that weird blurry distance effect (that looks super bad in screenshots, imo) that is not even possible to disable without also disabling shadows (as in Shadows = off) and fog. And then there is that weird HDR (over?)glow effect that happens at certain camera angles....

To me there is nothing beautiful I would want to screenshot in WH3 and maybe another part of that is the .. sorry the language, but bloody awful corruption effect. I played Demon Prince domination, 90% of my maps looked like someone had painted purple, green or red all over them. Even when I was going way south in the badlands everything had tint to it because I was spreading like +80 corruption combined per turn so even just approaching something slower turned my maps .. weird.
puRe 2022 年 4 月 26 日 上午 5:21 
Another thing I've noticed: DoF seems to have some problems on TAA (high) and works best on FXAA. Maybe a bug?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2799975060
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2799986398
最後修改者:puRe; 2022 年 4 月 26 日 上午 5:51
Pimpin Pippin 2022 年 4 月 26 日 上午 7:14 
cartoony does not fit warhammer style imo.
tww 3 art style is more for warcraft.
cl656 2022 年 4 月 26 日 上午 9:36 
All three games use the same engine. Other than the tweaked lighting, the graphics are the same.
Merque 2022 年 4 月 26 日 下午 12:33 
Man people should really stop using INT as their dump stat.
Eterniter 2022 年 4 月 26 日 下午 12:50 
引用自 cool-dude
All three games use the same engine. Other than the tweaked lighting, the graphics are the same.
*This

I see a lot of people talk about new graphics, when in essence, they changed the lighting, added some bloom and shadow tech.
Mosh 2022 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:03 
Glad to hear it's nothing like Warhammer 2 which had the ugliest campaign map I've ever seen. Hope it's more like Three Kingdoms.
DeerMunchingByATree 2022 年 4 月 26 日 下午 2:46 
The Jungle in Warhammer 3 looks absolutely terrible. Really worried about Lustria and the Southlands.
cl656 2022 年 4 月 26 日 下午 6:36 
引用自 Eterniter
引用自 cool-dude
All three games use the same engine. Other than the tweaked lighting, the graphics are the same.
*This

I see a lot of people talk about new graphics, when in essence, they changed the lighting, added some bloom and shadow tech.

Pretty much.
melta 2022 年 4 月 26 日 下午 6:41 
Possible. Lighting and shadows were downgraded in 2.
Donut Steel 2022 年 4 月 27 日 上午 5:15 
引用自 cool-dude
All three games use the same engine. Other than the tweaked lighting, the graphics are the same.

That isn't a small change. It's what made it necessary for CA to alter the textures on WH1 models in WH2, because they wouldn't have been a good fit in the WH2 lighting system. Those models look far more detailed in WH1, because their original subtle colour tones get saturated in the WH2 lighting system.

The only improvement of the WH2 lighting system was there no longer being that ugly blue-tint to dark areas and fog, so Underway battles actually started looking somewhat like when they were first showcased for WH1. A lot of people still mistook the over-brightness and colour-saturation in WH2 for a bug that CA would fix, yet they never did.
puRe 2022 年 4 月 27 日 上午 9:22 
引用自 Eterniter
引用自 cool-dude
All three games use the same engine. Other than the tweaked lighting, the graphics are the same.
*This

I see a lot of people talk about new graphics, when in essence, they changed the lighting, added some bloom and shadow tech.

Minus the post processing effects and (some) reused / recoloured models are worse than before.

EDIT: LOD is also worse than ever before.

引用自 pentazemin
Possible. Lighting and shadows were downgraded in 2.

That could be the reason why the oldest game in the trilogy has the worst performance. When zooming right into the heat of battle the fps can drop to below 40 fps, while WH3 usually stays above 80 fps all the time. I wonder how that changes once the old races with shinier armor affect the screen space reflections a lot more and blood is enabled.
最後修改者:puRe; 2022 年 4 月 27 日 上午 10:48
Stechhelm (已封鎖) 2022 年 4 月 27 日 上午 9:57 
I wonder how long it takes until they finaly fix the performence issues on the campain map. This dosnt look like a impossible task still they did nothing until now.
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