SEGA may close CA in the near future.

[Mazisky]

If we look at the current situation about CA as a Sega company, they have almost nothing positive about on a financial standpoint

-millions of money wasted on a failed Hyenas game

-Pharaoh which nobody cares about and it will certainly flop hard

-Warhammer3 and Dlcs with awfully low player count and negative reviews

They have nothing else.

We have seen often how publishers close studios after they are no longer a valuable asset and after failures and losses.

Edit: should we encourage people to support Pharaoh and save CA from its Doom?, I may do that

[Filthy Pollo 🐔]

Originally posted by Mazisky:

If we look at the current situation about CA as a Sega company, they have almost nothing positive about on a financial standpoint

-millions of money wasted on a failed Hyenas game

-Pharaoh which nobody cares about and it will certainly flop hard

-Warhammer3 and Dlcs with awfully low player count and negative reviews

They have nothing else.

We have seen often how publishers close studios after they are no longer a valuable asset and after failures and losses.

I encourage people to support Pharaoh and save CA from its Doom, I will definitely do that

I doubt, even Relic made DoW 3 that flopped very hard and didn't close Relic.

WH3 is the last hope, even the DLCs. And it's not fair to consider Pharaoh is a failure because it's not released yet.

[peremptor]

I wouldn't worry about it either way. They gave us some good games along the way so that's pretty groovy.

Eventually all things end, most of the time badly by definition otherwise they normally continue :)

[Kaneda]

I must say, i dont see the point of supporting CA after all of this. I dont buy an game only to help them after they lied, betrayed and robbed us so much. I like more to see CA is not working anymore and total war warhammer will be stop developed, then they lie, betray and robb further.

But i dont think they will be closed like you fear, they got punished now by SEGA and have a new chance to come back to the feed from their high horses. CA need just make a team and fix the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ warhammer 3 and after that they only need to dev warhammer 40k and release it in a very good state.

That is the only way they get our trust back and make money again, if they dont do it...♥♥♥♥ off CA, there are other good games.

[Mazisky]

Originally posted by Filthy Pollo:

Originally posted by Mazisky:

If we look at the current situation about CA as a Sega company, they have almost nothing positive about on a financial standpoint

-millions of money wasted on a failed Hyenas game

-Pharaoh which nobody cares about and it will certainly flop hard

-Warhammer3 and Dlcs with awfully low player count and negative reviews

They have nothing else.

We have seen often how publishers close studios after they are no longer a valuable asset and after failures and losses.

I encourage people to support Pharaoh and save CA from its Doom, I will definitely do that

I doubt, even Relic made DoW 3 that flopped very hard and didn't close Relic.

WH3 is the last hope, even the DLCs. And it's not fair to consider Pharaoh is a failure because it's not released yet.

So do you think that if Wh3 dlcs don't sell well, CA may close?

[Filthy Pollo 🐔]

Originally posted by Mazisky:

Originally posted by Filthy Pollo:

I doubt, even Relic made DoW 3 that flopped very hard and didn't close Relic.

WH3 is the last hope, even the DLCs. And it's not fair to consider Pharaoh is a failure because it's not released yet.

So do you think that if Wh3 dlcs don't sell well, CA may close?

That's not how CA decides, it''s up to SEGA, besides in case of bankruptcy, Total War title is very valuable asset so SEGA is looking to sell this asset to other company.

[CrucialEnd]

I dont think they will close down CA anytime soon. Especially not while DLC is selling. Rumours say that despite the backlash SoC was very profitable as people would buy the DLC from discounted keysites which gives CA more profit per unit despite being discounted because Steam takes such a big cut. Its certainly possible.

Even if that is not true it would not be difficult for CA to sell the next DLC if they just make it have more content than SoC. I think we will see as much milking as possible for as long as possible with WH3. What we most likely wont see though is that the game will be polished or "finished". After these losses they wont waste resources on polishing the game to any significant degree as they will be even more focused on profits right now. The game will always be a complete mess unfortunately.

[[FRCEOFNATR] Bullysan]

It was definetley an awful idea to try to mind-rig the peoples talk also here on steam. If people hate it they hate it, learn from it and try to do better. Its a gift that people do speak their mind for free. Its also no wonder if people who dont like strategy got to decide what to do in order to take care of a series like TW. Go pick a random troll and he/she will tell you exactley what to do.

[Kaneda]

Originally posted by CrucialEnd:

I think we will see as much milking as possible for as long as possible with WH3. What we most likely wont see though is that the game will be polished or "finished". After these losses they wont waste resources on polishing the game to any significant degree as they will be even more focused on profits right now. The game will always be a complete mess unfortunately.

i think the same. if we try to "help" CA buying their bugcursed and bad ware, we support the politics of them we hate so much

[Mazisky]

Originally posted by Filthy Pollo:

Originally posted by Mazisky:

So do you think that if Wh3 dlcs don't sell well, CA may close?

That's not how CA decides, it''s up to SEGA, besides in case of bankruptcy, Total War title is very valuable asset so SEGA is looking to sell this asset to other company.

Why did you say wh3 is the last hope?

[A.Pot]

CA really only has Warhammer anyway to give it any sort of widespread appeal. Unless CA has something big in the works they will likely fade back into obscurity because the historical games were honestly very niche with other franchises like Age of Empires being way better.

[Slaytherine]

Hold your high horse. It still too soon to say anything, and what you said is pure speculation.

[Filthy Pollo 🐔]

Originally posted by Mazisky:

Originally posted by Filthy Pollo:

That's not how CA decides, it''s up to SEGA, besides in case of bankruptcy, Total War title is very valuable asset so SEGA is looking to sell this asset to other company.

Why did you say wh3 is the last hope?

The most recent major game released was Total War: Warhammer III on February 17, 2022. As of October 2022, the series has sold over 40.4 million copies. It's only total war title was very successful. If they want to keep WH3 alive, they should keep making more DLCs no matter how much price even if there are on sale.

Also don't forget this mysterious game https://www.totalwarbattles.com/warhammer/ which it runs Unreal Engine and it is for mobile devices, so it shows no news and it could be affected as development hell for 3 years.

[Heru Ra Ha]

Originally posted by Mazisky:

If we look at the current situation about CA as a Sega company, they have almost nothing positive about on a financial standpoint

-millions of money wasted on a failed Hyenas game

-Pharaoh which nobody cares about and it will certainly flop hard

-Warhammer3 and Dlcs with awfully low player count and negative reviews

They have nothing else.

We have seen often how publishers close studios after they are no longer a valuable asset and after failures and losses.

I encourage people to support Pharaoh and save CA from its Doom, I will definitely do that

♥♥♥♥ no, I don't encourage people to buy Pharaoh a saga title in disguise which features cosmetic dlc for a single player game.

We are not responsible for the mess that the management of CA steered the company into, it was their greed. I just hope that SEGA arrives at the right conclusion on who is to blame and who should suffer the consequences.

[Mazisky]

Originally posted by Filthy Pollo:

Originally posted by Mazisky:

Why did you say wh3 is the last hope?

The most recent major game released was Total War: Warhammer III on February 17, 2022. As of October 2022, the series has sold over 40.4 million copies. It's only total war title was very successful. If they want to keep WH3 alive, they should keep making more DLCs no matter how much price even if there are on sale.

Also don't forget this mysterious game https://www.totalwarbattles.com/warhammer/ which it runs Unreal Engine and it is for mobile devices, so it shows no news and it could be affected as development hell for 3 years.

Where did you get that Warhammer 3 is the only successful title? (If i got it right by your wording)

The Total war series already sold 36 millions copies even before Wh3 was released, which means wh3 contributed in minor part on those 40 millions.

[Mazisky]

Originally posted by Heru Ra Ha:

Originally posted by Mazisky:

If we look at the current situation about CA as a Sega company, they have almost nothing positive about on a financial standpoint

-millions of money wasted on a failed Hyenas game

-Pharaoh which nobody cares about and it will certainly flop hard

-Warhammer3 and Dlcs with awfully low player count and negative reviews

They have nothing else.

We have seen often how publishers close studios after they are no longer a valuable asset and after failures and losses.

I encourage people to support Pharaoh and save CA from its Doom, I will definitely do that

♥♥♥♥ no, I don't encourage people to buy Pharaoh a saga title in disguise which features cosmetic dlc for a single player game.

We are not responsible for the mess that the management of CA steered the company into, it was their greed. I just hope that SEGA arrives at the right conclusion on who is to blame and who should suffer the consequences.

Very fair point.