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Drifter

Apr 27, 2023 @ 9:30am

Computer Army Cheating

Can you fix your game so the computer has to follow the same economy rules as a player for supporting an Army. Watching a 1 territory AI army with a 3000+ a turn upkeep being supported by a 600 gold a turn settlement is getting silly, And no the computer did not sit on a stockpile of cash

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Slyspy

Apr 27, 2023 @ 9:32am

You fix it my using your smarter animal brain and realising that the AI needs all the help it can get.

Abisha

Apr 27, 2023 @ 9:54am

Originally posted by Slyspy:
You fix it my using your smarter animal brain and realising that the AI needs all the help it can get.

rater have a animal brain in a jar then cheating AI. it's a insult on my intelligence

Captain Baldy has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:01am

if you made the Ai's life as hard as it is for the player, nothing much would happen.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789971041

Last edited by Captain Baldy; Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:03am

BenShinobi has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:05am

If it were possible to have separate parameters for difficulty on sliding scales I think it would be a great QoL feature that would solve a lot of peoples' issues around difficulty or immersion-breaking ai behavior, like ais just always being able to field more armies than you. I can just so rarely find the exact balance that feels good, and it's mostly dependent on the faction I choose & their starting challenge that fine tunes that level of difficulty to what I prefer.

While many wouldn't necessarily use it, the ability to fine tune my experience would be fantastic. Well aware this would not be a priority if they ever considered adding this feasture

Abisha

Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:07am

Originally posted by flange:
if you made the Ai's life as hard as it is for the player, nothing much would happen.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789971041

you missing the point the AI is to suffer, being pushover, to make the player feels like god.
that's the goal of AI and it's program to be so. it's a philosophy it's my rights as human being. a machine is just that a machine. like a phone is just a machine to be discarded when no longer being useful.

Abisha

Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:08am

Originally posted by BenShinobi:
If it were possible to have separate parameters for difficulty on sliding scales I think it would be a great QoL feature that would solve a lot of peoples' issues around difficulty or immersion-breaking ai behavior, like ais just always being able to field more armies than you. I can just so rarely find the exact balance that feels good, and it's mostly dependent on the faction I choose & their starting challenge that fine tunes that level of difficulty to what I prefer.

While many wouldn't necessarily use it, the ability to fine tune my experience would be fantastic. Well aware this would not be a priority if they ever considered adding this feasture

any good program game would have adaptive difficulty but i guess this is CA...... they might have it in next decade or so if lucky.

DaBa

Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:09am

And you know why it works like this? Because the AI is so stupid on the campaign map that if they played by your rules the game would be laughably easy. So the devs resort to cheap solutions like these to retain any semblance of challenge.

Get yourself some mods that remove things like anti-player bias and other campaign cheats and you'll see what I mean.

Last edited by DaBa; Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:11am

Garatgh Deloi has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:17am

Originally posted by Drifter:
Can you fix your game so the computer has to follow the same economy rules as a player for supporting an Army. Watching a 1 territory AI army with a 3000+ a turn upkeep being supported by a 600 gold a turn settlement is getting silly, And no the computer did not sit on a stockpile of cash

While its undeniable that the AI gets a lot of buffs/handicaps depending on difficulty (its rather useless without them), such as reduced upkeep etc.

It would in this case actually be the same for both players and the AI. Both would easily be able to afford a 3000+ upkeep army on a single settlement earning 600 gold a turn.

"Background income" is a thing. It varies a bit depending on difficulty but both your faction and the AI factions get like 2000-3000 income from nothing.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967951121

Last edited by Garatgh Deloi; Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:30am

Mepho

Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:26am

Originally posted by Abisha:
you missing the point the AI is to suffer, being pushover, to make the player feels like god.
that's the goal of AI and it's program to be so. it's a philosophy it's my rights as human being. a machine is just that a machine. like a phone is just a machine to be discarded when no longer being useful.

Dude you're taking it personal lol, it's a new one.
It's an algorithm, once you know how it works those cheats are the only thing that can help them put up an actual challenge.

Which sucks, everyone would rather have a better AI, but that's what it is.
Also no, the purpose isn't to make you feel overpowered, on the contrary it's to pose a challenge so that the player has to... play?
If you can't manage and wanna feel like a god there's an incredible amount of cheat mods on the workshop.

Fryskar

Apr 27, 2023 @ 11:14am

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:
Originally posted by Drifter:
Can you fix your game so the computer has to follow the same economy rules as a player for supporting an Army. Watching a 1 territory AI army with a 3000+ a turn upkeep being supported by a 600 gold a turn settlement is getting silly, And no the computer did not sit on a stockpile of cash

While its undeniable that the AI gets a lot of buffs/handicaps depending on difficulty (its rather useless without them), such as reduced upkeep etc.

It would in this case actually be the same for both players and the AI. Both would easily be able to afford a 3000+ upkeep army on a single settlement earning 600 gold a turn.

"Background income" is a thing. It varies a bit depending on difficulty but both your faction and the AI factions get like 2000-3000 income from nothing.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967951121

Its even 5k on easy, idk if in normal too.

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