Denuvo in very old game

[『ZweiRin』]

Srsly, Sega?! Game of 2008 without update graphics, with malvare virus and price HIGHER than on Playstation. Why u hate PC players so much?

[De******k Storage]

Originally posted by nomar 🤔:

Also it's kinda weird that after a game gets cracked with Denuvo, seemingly everyone stop caring if there is even a DRM at all

I'm still posting on community pages for 2+ year old games that still have Denuvo asking for it to be removed. I want to play these games but I don't want to support Denuvo.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by Mokinokaro:

Originally posted by nomar 🤔:

To say that Denuvo blocks modding is factually wrong, for this game or any other, DA:I, FF XV, FM all have Denuvo and modding, Denuvo doesn't even block access to the game exe like EAC does, meaning you can hook the game with cheatengine or trainer whatsoever

How much modding the game is affected by Denuvo depends on the game architecture. The only file it usually protects is the main EXE so it matters how much is baked into that file.

It only protects the EXE in the sense that there's virtualized code that pirates have to workaround if they want to defeat the game's DRM. Gameplay logic, which is the only thing a legitimate mod would ever involve, is completely unaffected.

[Kegfarms]

Originally posted by Autism Horse:

Originally posted by nomar 🤔:

Also it's kinda weird that after a game gets cracked with Denuvo, seemingly everyone stop caring if there is even a DRM at all

I'm still posting on community pages for 2+ year old games that still have Denuvo asking for it to be removed. I want to play these games but I don't want to support Denuvo.

Ironically devs using Denuvo probably creates more pirates depending on the game.

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by Kegfarms:

Originally posted by Autism Horse:

I'm still posting on community pages for 2+ year old games that still have Denuvo asking for it to be removed. I want to play these games but I don't want to support Denuvo.

Ironically devs using Denuvo probably creates more pirates depending on the game.

Stop trying to justify the fact you're a thief, it's pathetic.

[Biscuit]

this flame war is still going strong, I see

[Dzaka]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Kegfarms:

Ironically devs using Denuvo probably creates more pirates depending on the game.

Stop trying to justify the fact you're a thief, it's pathetic.

actually it's not justifying.. it's a valid observation.. games with DRM are more likely to be pirated than games without... CDPR games have less pirated copies floating around than any other studio. and games on GOG tend to not have the GOG version pirated..

this might be a shocker but not treating your customers like criminals leads to loyalty

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by Dzaka:

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Stop trying to justify the fact you're a thief, it's pathetic.

actually it's not justifying.. it's a valid observation.. games with DRM are more likely to be pirated than games without... CDPR games have less pirated copies floating around than any other studio. and games on GOG tend to not have the GOG version pirated..

this might be a shocker but not treating your customers like criminals leads to loyalty

Witcher 2, is the most pirated game ever. The pirate bay is full of GoG games.

Shocker.

Witcher 2 was that badly pirated, CDPR sent pirates letters asking for money....

[Talon Rose]

And some people deliberately put their music\albums\games *on* certain sites I can't mention that involve torrenting, *explicitly* so people had a free demo to try and spread the word & it worked.

Nothing is 100% in this world, but Denuvo can easily be proven to do more harm than good. Financial harm, damage to reputation, player experience.
It needs to go

[Hal]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Dzaka:

actually it's not justifying.. it's a valid observation.. games with DRM are more likely to be pirated than games without... CDPR games have less pirated copies floating around than any other studio. and games on GOG tend to not have the GOG version pirated..

this might be a shocker but not treating your customers like criminals leads to loyalty

Witcher 2, is the most pirated game ever. The pirate bay is full of GoG games.

Shocker.

Witcher 2 was that badly pirated, CDPR sent pirates letters asking for money....

You have any source for this claim? Because if this was true, they wouldn't have sold Witcher 3 without DRM.

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by Hal:

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Witcher 2, is the most pirated game ever. The pirate bay is full of GoG games.

Shocker.

Witcher 2 was that badly pirated, CDPR sent pirates letters asking for money....

You have any source for this claim? Because if this was true, they wouldn't have sold Witcher 3 without DRM.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/05251816942/despite-being-pirated-45-millions-times-witcher-2-developer-refuses-to-annoy-paying-customers-with-drm.shtml

https://www.pcgamer.com/cd-projekt-red-admits-sending-letters-to-witcher-2-pirates-was-a-mistake/

[CheeseBoar]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Hal:

You have any source for this claim? Because if this was true, they wouldn't have sold Witcher 3 without DRM.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/05251816942/despite-being-pirated-45-millions-times-witcher-2-developer-refuses-to-annoy-paying-customers-with-drm.shtml

https://www.pcgamer.com/cd-projekt-red-admits-sending-letters-to-witcher-2-pirates-was-a-mistake/

And yet they still made The Witcher 3 completely DRM-free, Cyberpunk 2077 will be completely DRM-free, and GOG is still going strong. It's like they care about their customers, or something.

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Kegfarms:

Ironically devs using Denuvo probably creates more pirates depending on the game.

Stop trying to justify the fact you're a thief, it's pathetic.

Yeah, it's pathetic how this user with a public profile and over a thousand Steam games clearly stole all of them definitely probably!

[Hal]

So while it was pirated a lot the publisher still thinks it's a better business concept to make the best product for the customer instead of chaining him to a DRM product. And Witcher 3 is one of the best selling games. Seems like they're doing many things right.

[Dopey Shepard]

Can this thread just DIE so it stops popping up every single day? Denuvo will stay here for months. You can't do anything about it. Period.

[Loxly]

Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:

Can this thread just DIE so it stops popping up every single day? Denuvo will stay here for months. You can't do anything about it. Period.

Just unsubscribe from this thread or don't click on it when it pops up again, EZ. you're not forced to reply or give your opinion

[「Lukja」]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Hal:

You have any source for this claim? Because if this was true, they wouldn't have sold Witcher 3 without DRM.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/05251816942/despite-being-pirated-45-millions-times-witcher-2-developer-refuses-to-annoy-paying-customers-with-drm.shtml

https://www.pcgamer.com/cd-projekt-red-admits-sending-letters-to-witcher-2-pirates-was-a-mistake/

"The game is 14GB, so let's assume that on an average not-too-fast connection it will be 6 hours of download. 6 weeks is 56 days, which equals to 1344 hours; and with 6h of average download time to get the game it would give us 224 downloads, then let's multiply it by 20k simultaneous downloaders."
This math is so terrible, lol.
People downloading in 3rd World countries will be doing it for probably a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ week.