This Remaster is not worth it!

[sirkudjon]

40$ for slightly improved textures which is equal to 170 zł when I bought the original for 30 zł. Plus no discount for owning the title already for orgin users.
Congrats on lazy port BTW. And another games that has been just removed from my wishlist thanks for savin my money. I am not even seeing Polish language. Not even subtitles! If that doesn't speak for that they didn't care a lot about this game and it is a quick cash grab then nothing will.

[Doom_Cookies]

引用自 2d0x：

They are trying to sell us what we already had, but ten times more expensive.

I feel like a lot of this confusion must come from the really weird localized prices. For me, someone in USA, the price they're releasing it at is less than I payed for the original, even before the discounts are taken into account. I payed somewhere around $50 USD for the original Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning around the time it came out, because that's what it was priced for. I then spent about $10 (don't recall price for the DLCs) for each of the DLCs.

All that is now priced for about 40 bucks.

Hell, even now, on Origin, when the game isn't on sale, the base game costs 20 USD and each of the two DLCs costs 10 USD, for a grand total of...40 USD.

Far from selling for a more expensive price, it's actually selling for the same as the current market value and less than the release market value of the original game. I've heard that some localized prices are really off, so is that what has you up in arms?

[Autentist]

引用自 Doom_Cookies：

I've heard that some localized prices are really off, so is that what has you up in arms?

I'm from the same region and YES, the prices are sky high. The prices of AAA product here, no joke, like Borderlands 3, for example... which had thrice more content for LESS price, when it was released on Steam.

[Tiasmoon]

引用自 EXPO Koyuta kota：

引用自 Tiasmoon：

That should make it run better, not worse.

that depends on how used to you are with how games run in the current time. where its a big improvement from the game back then if it dosnt meet the standards of newer games today its gonna be labeled as playing worse

More modern games are heavier on your hardware and will run worse. They dont run better.

[2d0x]

Currently, in my region, prices are completely unstable and often inadequate. As far as I know, the Brazilians are in about the same situation. Personally, I am concerned that some people have already begun to perceive this as the norm and equate games with luxury. But damn it! We are not even the owners of these games and we have no right to dispose of them at our own discretion. Prices are going up, but we are getting less and less something really new and good.

[TheLightningYu | Mike]

引用自 nodata：

After something like this? I definitely won't buy this game. But my wallet opposition alone is not enough. You have to make people aware of how they can be fooled.

I get where you coming from. I really do. Watch my History, i was so critical about how "orginal owners" are threated, even "now" with the 50% - 60% still somewhat critical, so i wasn't even sure if i would buy it at all. And for a few Reason i decided to go with the Xbox One Version because it could "somewhat" justify the price for me.

I understand your (and some other) peoples decision to not buy it, if they already own the Basegame... on the same launcher / plattform.

However:

引用自 nodata：

Congrats on lazy port. 169 zł Ja pierdolę.... And another games that has been just removed from my wishlist.

As someone who actually played a few weeks ago the original one on PC with maxed out Graphic-Settings and now could play it for a few hours on X1 (i don't know why it is already unlocked on X1), and even on my old Standart XboxOne without any 4K advantages there is a clear visible difference. I mean it. It's not Day and Night level of Remake like Resident Evil(but that whould be obviously for everyone who actually know the difference between Remake & Remaster), but i would take the Remastered over the orginal one any day and FOR Me, considering that i also get the upcoming DLC (which will be hopefully good ngl) it actually did worth it, because i don't own the basegame on Xbox anyway.

You have much better (and high-rez) textures which really does an impact, due now you see details which you could hardly see in the original one. You have overall a more cleaned up screen, and the lightningeffects are stunning. If it does worth the price or if it should be lowered is pretty arguable, i understand that. But it really p*** me off when people like you come in and trash something wrongly, act like "nothing did change, cheap a** lazy port"... while not even touched the game itself yet and played it live on your screen without Twitch or YT compression, and also might remember the original game wrong(and don't get me wrong at that last part, i don't hold it against you, it's pretty normal that we remember old Games visually better than they actually were... remastered often tends to deliever the level quality of how we remember them, that's why it's often confusing if there is a change at all. But play both Games side by side and you'll see a huge difference...).

[Photonboy]

CASH GRAB!
Call me a whiner if you want, but I do own the game and have just seen reviews and video of the "remaster" that looks essentially the same including the annoying pop-in. People above have said that they were "up front" but they weren't. They lied.
THQ literally said "Remastered with stunning visuals!" which to any sensible person means the game looks noticeably better, and leading up to the pre-order they only showed off tiny screenshots and a new, pre-rendered cut scene.
(I'm talking PC only. I'm sure the game looks a lot better than it did on XBox 360 now that it's on the PS4 etc, but then they probably just mostly ported over the PC version)

[Tiasmoon]

引用自 TheLightningYu | Mike：

引用自 nodata：

After something like this? I definitely won't buy this game. But my wallet opposition alone is not enough. You have to make people aware of how they can be fooled.

I get where you coming from. I really do. Watch my History, i was so critical about how "orginal owners" are threated, even "now" with the 50% - 60% still somewhat critical, so i wasn't even sure if i would buy it at all. And for a few Reason i decided to go with the Xbox One Version because it could "somewhat" justify the price for me.

I understand your (and some other) peoples decision to not buy it, if they already own the Basegame... on the same launcher / plattform.

However:

引用自 nodata：

Congrats on lazy port. 169 zł Ja pierdolę.... And another games that has been just removed from my wishlist.

As someone who actually played a few weeks ago the original one on PC with maxed out Graphic-Settings and now could play it for a few hours on X1 (i don't know why it is already unlocked on X1), and even on my old Standart XboxOne without any 4K advantages there is a clear visible difference. I mean it. It's not Day and Night level of Remake like Resident Evil(but that whould be obviously for everyone who actually know the difference between Remake & Remaster), but i would take the Remastered over the orginal one any day and FOR Me, considering that i also get the upcoming DLC (which will be hopefully good ngl) it actually did worth it, because i don't own the basegame on Xbox anyway.

You have much better (and high-rez) textures which really does an impact, due now you see details which you could hardly see in the original one. You have overall a more cleaned up screen, and the lightningeffects are stunning. If it does worth the price or if it should be lowered is pretty arguable, i understand that. But it really p*** me off when people like you come in and trash something wrongly, act like "nothing did change, cheap a** lazy port"... while not even touched the game itself yet and played it live on your screen without Twitch or YT compression, and also might remember the original game wrong(and don't get me wrong at that last part, i don't hold it against you, it's pretty normal that we remember old Games visually better than they actually were... remastered often tends to deliever the level quality of how we remember them, that's why it's often confusing if there is a change at all. But play both Games side by side and you'll see a huge difference...).

Judging by reviews posted so far there really is no noticable difference in most events. Only a few differences here and there that would be hard to spot for most people. Maybe its different on 1080p or something, but that's what ive seen from 4k.

I will reserve full judgement for if/when I play the game myself, but for now its looking like there isnt much of a visual improvement in most cases.

[Saishi]

Hello. You are right. This is outrageous! Don't buy it. Vote with your wallet. No one is forcing you.

So don't complain and move on. Allow people like me to enjoy life :)

[Elliott]

just use CD KEYS got it for £22 instead of full price

[Torinux]

引用自 Seferoth：

Also bug fixes, balancing, and QoL improvements. Stop your whining.

Sorry to burst your bubble, already played it, some of the issues still there. The only "QoL" are the FoV that barely works, a Screen resolution with more option but sometines these options reset themselves. An enhanced post-processing that makes the FPS to tank randomly if you have the game maxed out and the visual enhancement is not that much compared to the OG using Re-shade and SweetFX

Here's a comparison:

Re-Reckoning withand without post-processing and maxed out graphics.
https://imgur.com/a/geAQskO

Reckoning with and without post-processing and Re-shade+SweetFX
https://imgur.com/a/OjwLFps

Keep in mind the OG only had Medium settings (Standard) while Re-Reckoning has way more graphics options, I see no difference other than most of the textures being HD but as soon as you fiddle and adjust the FoV and make the camera to zoom out beyond the standard distance, you lose detail on your character and the screen bends in a weird way.

And don't get me started with the loading times, in the OG there was pretty much no loading times, 95% of the time, switching areas was pretty much instant, on the remaster, sometimes you have to wait 30 seconds... with the game installed on an SSD.

P.S. you can achieve way, WAY better results by configuring Re-Shade+SweetFX to your own liking, the pictures above, are my personal settings.

[Tiasmoon]

In your comparison screenshots the game looks best for me with the post processing on and without your reshade preset.

I dont think using reshade for examples like this is a good idea. Reshade changes colors and those are highly dependant on the viewers monitor and color settings. People likely won't see your reshade the same way you do.

For me your Reshade preset is too agressive in its coloring, making the colors too strong. Comparing the preset to the postprocessing directly, the first makes the game look worse for me, where as the postprocessing makes it look better.

[Double]

I was prepared to pay $40 honestly but at $16 with the 60% discount (and presumably $24 for the DLC whatever edition) I'm definitely grabbing it. I didn't even know they were doing half off for original owners lol. So yeah, I'll probably go ahead and grab the new DLC discounted as well, no real reason I wouldn't.

[Torinux]

引用自 Tiasmoon：

In your comparison screenshots the game looks best for me with the post processing on and without your reshade preset.

I dont think using reshade for examples like this is a good idea. Reshade changes colors and those are highly dependant on the viewers monitor and color settings. People likely won't see your reshade the same way you do.

For me your Reshade preset is too agressive in its coloring, making the colors too strong. Comparing the preset to the postprocessing directly, the first makes the game look worse for me, where as the postprocessing makes it look better.

Well that's why I said that's my preference, but you gotta be kidding yourself, with the Re-Shade, you can clearly see the difference on the light rays. Of course you perceive the color to be aggressive compared to the lack of color on the original settings.

All in all, for all of us that have been playing the game for these many years, we know this remaster is not worth of the name REMASTER.

[tmaddox]

引用自 TorinuxCthulhu：

All in all, for all of those that have been playing the game for these many years, we know this remaster is not worth of the name REMASTER.

By whose definition? Yours?

Even if the textures were all that they improved it would technically be a remaster. Not all remasters are equal to be sure and you don't have to like every remaster that comes down the line but you can't just change the definition because of personal preferences on how much improvement should be made

[Tiasmoon]

引用自 TorinuxCthulhu：

Well that's why I said that's my preference, but you gotta be kidding yourself, with the Re-Shade, you can clearly see the difference on the light rays. Of course you perceive the color to be aggressive compared to the lack of color on the original settings.

Gentler colors, or what you call ''lack of color'' is also part of good coloring. Throwing more intense colors onto something doesnt automatically make it look better. It can make it look worse.

Again, you should really consider that monitor and color settings effect what visuals look like to you. If you only care about the colors being more aggressive, then its better to change it via those methods.

引用自 TorinuxCthulhu：

All in all, for all of those that have been playing the game for these many years, we know this remaster is not worth of the name REMASTER.

That's the argument I was previously standing on myself, however the example you use is a very poor one. Reshade is a really poor use as example in a case like this, if you dont know how to use it very well. As is demonstrated when your Reshade screenshot looks worse on this end then the base game's, and even worse then the Post Processing version.

引用自 TorinuxCthulhu：

you can clearly see the difference on the light rays.

The difference, yes. Whether its a good one is highly subject to debate.