I found the layout of this map to be a bit inelegant/confusing, but once I made sense of where everything was and how all the connections worked, it turned out to be a surprisingly easy puzzle. I enjoyed it overall, though – good use/reuse of elements and spaces, as always with your maps, and there were several clever moves. Thumbs up.

Ah, I missed the reference to ami's comment. I think he made it in context with "kengdie", which is roughly translated from Chinese as deception. He meant to say that this is not a "kengdie" map, just a normal puzzle - of average difficulty. There's so much lost in translation when you try to chat with someone from China. Sometimes it seems clumsy but I think his comments aren't negative.

So you made a sendificator puzzle. That's just great. Looking forward to the headaches...

I can believe you about the downvotes, great lighting and nicely designed with some good tricky moves haha. 2012 is far away behind us.
No, I was referring to ami's comment. Such ingratitude and arrogance in front of a God. Kick me this little shit please :D
When I entered the map, I was thinking .. well, I stay or I leave hm. Dizziness overcame me. The size of the map and all those elements gave me headache again. But after some trials and errors, I managed to do the first step :) Then I made my way and came gradually to the exit.
That was - a great adventure -
Not an 'awesome' puzzle but I feel reassured in your maps, I know that everything is thought, studied and considered. Thanks for that.
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I'm glad you enjoyed find it not good and not bad. This map is intentionally "mainstream" and it's actually modified from an early very tricky map which had more downvotes than upvotes. There's nothing left from the old map except this video for the first room .

I didn't play this one yet. I would just say : not good, not bad ...
Lol, what is not bad is the number of updates but I'm not surprised ;)
Amazing huge puzzle, we can see everywhere the mastery of a portal God.
Thumbs up.

once i figured it out i didnt have any problem

Good to hear, I hope it went well for you. When these guys played the chamber they had a frustrating experience towards the end. https://youtu.be/PF-XD6VRG5o?t=3475
Hopefully it is better now.

oh my gosh, i know i tried to play this map a long while ago and couldnt finish it. i finished it today. great map outstanding!

Great map Toncica, loved it. Thumbs up.

this is a normal map ,not good ,not bad.For the new advanced

The timing was well chosen. I've played a lot of puzzles with poorly-timed areas that make that section very difficult to execute. I was very glad when that turned out not to be the case.

At the very end, instead of using the funnel to bring the cube remotely to the button into the exit room you could carry the cube there yourself if given enough time. I made the timer short enough to not allow that without getting uncomfortable hopefully.

Interesting. I could not think of any way to be standing in the exit room with the cube sitting on the other side of the glass. Is this scenario even possible?

Thanks for the feedback. When the player goes through the portal from the exit room he lands in a pit to make sure he doesn't have time to get the cube from there inside the exit room before the timer has run out. Additionally the portal is "upside-down" to prevent a ninja player from being able to land on the ledge instead of dropping down into the pit and throw the cube back through portal in under a second. It would be a crazy and almost impossible move but I want to to make sure that this has no chance to succeed.

Well, I feel accomplished.

I don't know whether I was lucky or if this is simply an easier puzzle than your others, but I managed to make it to the end in one sitting without any hints. It's the first puzzle since "In The End" that I haven't needed any hints for. That said, the ending had me thinking really hard, and I had to do a lot of experimenting before the answer was apparent.

The only questionable thing I found in this map is an "upside-down" portal behind the fizzler / laser grid. For whatever reason, every time you place a portal in the exit room it's always upside-down. The green detector that reverses the funnel was new to me, but I assume it was just another BEEMOD toy I haven't tried out yet. And I really like the way you use timed funnels in your maps (to center cubes and such). It adds a touch of polish I haven't seen in many other maps.

A great map with very few unconventional moves. Nice job!

Did nother 'ride' and have to admit that the last steps are, indeed, very important to this map; did the intentended way this time, very nice chamber design and nice simple fix.

Pic.:http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=348162337

@dire.fcs, wow I can't believe I missed that. Fixed, thank you!

Huge well designed and tough map; I think the last steps to exit were not intended: I was able to shoot a portal through the side platform to the panel behind fizzler and laser barrier in the room where the last cube must be.

Can`t believe this is a simplified version. I played many maps including Chanders and Jonatan hardcore and belive me "difficult" rating for this one is not an exaggeration. Of course it`s not "Seven Gates" but what it`s great is that at the same time being difficult it`s enjoyable. No ninja tricks. Excellent work. Kudos. Will play rest oy yours

Excellent, very nice playthrough. It was basically 100% intended with small variations. I never land on the ledge behind the funnel but I see it works very well too. It's fun to watch a different style when it doesn't break the puzzle. ;)

Tough map to figured out, but I did a 2nd run thourgh dem. https://www.dropbox.com/s/vw14gewjpdptmk1/lost.dem

There were many times I had the first cube placed and I took the second one to almost every other place I could reach. I could get to the final chamber just not with the cube. The solution is obviously the only way and I could not seem to see it. No big deal. I had a lot of fun and ain't what we play for. Thanks again. Will be enjoying some more of your artistry.

Oh, I enjoyed the map! I use F6 a lot because of trying out stuff. I save when I am pretty sure that I am on the right track, or get tired of missing a jump and zap myself. I avoid maps that require a great deal of dexterity. You should know that there are players who don't see that clearly laid out solution. Cough 'me' Cough.

By continuously mentioning F6 you make it sound like the player is always in danger on my maps. I believe that's not the case. Trial and error suggests there's randomness and guessing required, but there should always be a reliable solution to a clearly laid out problem available. Not sure if your comment is supposed to be negative or positive or if you enjoyed the map.

WHEW! Again, a lot of trial and error and F6. That top chamber had me stumped until I went away and came back the next day.

I can assure you that you solved far more challenging maps than this one, it must have been something different like having a continuous blind spot, I know how that feels from my own experience. What was it that you missed?

Each time I came back to this game over the last month or so I was more convinced that some players are in a different league than me. I have enjoyed all the attempts and I came very close a few times. After reaching the same point today again with no enlightenment, I broke down and watched a video. You are a master in my humble opinion. I don't know if I ever would have solved it but I'm glad I tried (and tried ...). Great map. I will continue to try your other maps. Don't think I'm ignoring them it's just that I haven't solved them yet. Several are in my queue now. Thanks.

Thanks. Well, the map is huge indeed. But the puzzles aren't as tough as on most of my other maps, so it should be balanced in that regard I think. You're the first to express dislike for this version. In the demos it seemed like you were getting angry. It's the first time in a long while (or ever?) that you couldn't do an unintended solution. Maybe it just doesn't feel right to you leaving a chamber unbroken. ;)

My blindrun (in two parts): https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qm7x9tom4nb3d9/lost.dem https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4bh5y8uq9mtckp/lost2.dem (total time about 55mins) by the end of the first demo I was feeling very lost, not sure what to do or where to go. I eventually figured it out, but the map has too many elements for my liking. I think I solved as intended.

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Ba ba ba brilliant!!!

toncica
ok.
I have been doing further experimentation with the gate I showed you a demo of.
it will be a full map, with a secret twist.
something I have never seen in the basic editor before.
the downside is it is unavoidably noisy.
so you might hate it.
I have managed to quieten it some already.
may be able to do more ?
still loads more editing / testing to do.
but coming along.

Well, in PTI chambers there is still music when you enter the chamber, only after loading inside the chamber it's definitely gone.

toncica
yes, that is what I mean.
you still get sound effects & hear changes in the puzzle.
I had not noticed music still playing.
if the other sound is at maximum, you can turn your speaker volume down,
which may stop you hearing the music ? maybe not ?

You mean turning the volume of the music down to zero, I see no other option to turn it off. I always had it turned down but I can still hear music playing.

toncica
you previously said the reason you quicksave & quickload when starting a portal map.
is because you find the portal music distracting.
I have gone into the options & turned the music off, while leaving all other game sounds on.
I just thought you would find this easier.

toncica
I have explored your question further in the editor.
& came up with the following:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=148348442
let me know if it is clear enough.
or any good to you ?
& when you have finished & I will unpublish it.
you could use it on a future map if you want ?

Thanks for trying this map. As you may suspect I updated the detail I was talking about yesterday, not with the zero gravity version but with a normal funnel.
From your screen shots everything looks fine, you left the companion cube in the upper level which is correct, or else you wouldn't even be able to travel back, you can now forget about the companion cube and the upper level, there's nothing left to do there.
The fizzler going off is important but don't forget about the rest of the map you have access to. Getting into the exit room from that side is impossible, there is another way though.

toncica
looks like another of your maps I am not smart enough to complete.
I did the following:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=148105466
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=148105520
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=148105583
but I am as your title says "lost" at what to do.
I don't even know if I left the right cube up top.
when the fizzler went off, I thought I should come down to the last screenshot.
but have no clue now.
I have previously played 'Lost in Testing' but failed at that as well.
what I have done, I have found impresive & well thought out.
so much so, that this is the 1st map I have given the thumbs up, without completing.
you are a good make maker, as well as a good player.

i didnt see a way

It looks like you didn't take the other cube which you had in the first room.

that is the cube i had :/

You need both cubes there, you can bring one with you when you walk over the light bridge, the other cube has to stay in the funnel to block the laser which gives you the light bridge, on the floor with the cube buttons you can shoot a portal through the grating down to the funnel, and have it being transported to you at the faith plate section .

i was in the part where you have a cube button behind a shut down death laser and another cube button protected by a bridge. i got the cube but then i didnt know what do to because you need two cubes there and i didnt have any and i was stuck in that place.

I'm sorry to hear that. The last part isn't quite easy, if you didn't make it that far I'd like to know where you got stuck.

i was "lost" in this puzzle. as much as i tryed, i failed to solve it :/

Thanks for the video. It's amazing that every new playthrough I see brings something new. You didn't use one of the portal surfaces and I like that even better. So I'm gonna remove it.
May I recommend to you the maps by Juggler, I think you're gonna like them. Not enough people have played these well made maps in my opinion. For example this one: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=104393765

I truly enjoyed all the moving pieces in this one. I'd love to show you my blind playthrough, but after I got the first cube on the X button, I spent an awful lot of time trying wacky stuff. I didn't figure it out until after I went to bed. So when I replayed it today, I recorded that (with minor flubs edited out): Lost (Xmas edition) playthrough .
So now you have another entry in my collection of Favorite Puzzle Maps .

Happy to help and I'm glad you liked the video. This is my kind of puzzle, one in which you have to think about what to do next, that's were I tend to do very well. I don't do so well on puzzles that are timed or where I have to perform a ninja fling, that's not my strong suit. This chamber was right up my alley and I enjoyed it very much. Nice job.