[FIXED] SPY NERFS EVERYWHERE, DEMO BUFFS!!!? WHAT THE ****!

[revolver toast]

As it happens, all of the problems were fixed. Thanks Valve!

[352 Pain Trains]

Originally posted by Toast:

Medics with the solem vow and spies can see enemy spies, that are cloaked (WITH ALL WATCHES). They can do this by tracking the new health bar from the new hud. Apparently this works if you have seen the spy uncloaked earlier in your current life..?

That's a bug.

Medics with the solem vow and spies can see a disguised spy's actual health, and not his disguised victim's health. This is again through the new health bar from the new hud.

Again, that's a bug.

As any class but the spy and medics with the solem vow, you can be 100 % certain if someone is a spy or not. This is because those other classes can only see friendlies health, however this is not considered with the new health bars. This means that friendly disguised spies' health bar will NOT show to enemies, thus making the enemy 100 % certain of him being on the other team, because if it were to be a normal team member, he would be able to see his health.

And yet again, that's a bug.

The spy-cicle has been "ninja-nerfed" to oblivion. You can now only take 1 fire damage, will still being safe from fire. This means that if you're hit with the spy-cicle out 2 or more times, you will catch on fire and take the afterburn damage.

Definitely a bug.

[Galgari]

Welcome, foolish mortals, to Bug Fortress 2!


Like fix all of them its unfair for any spy.

[baby gameplay]

Let's hope that these bugs decrease the average number of Spies per matches.
Now all we need is a huge nerf for Sniper, like no headshots and then 2fort would be a much better place.

[Collisto]

They just compeltly broke the spy-cicle to oblivion

[Clear Vision]

I'm pretty sure that everything you've mentioned is unintentional and Valve will patch it ASAP.

[Amsel :D]

Originally posted by Pyraax:

Let's hope that these bugs decrease the average number of Spies per matches.
Now all we need is a huge nerf for Sniper, like no headshots and then 2fort would be a much better place.

Wouldn't it be nice if they made a map like 2fort3 (Two forts Version Three, because of the TFC one the terrible one they have now and then this is the third) and actually balanced it for the game we're playing, and not an old one that they purposley made different.

Also I really hope they fix everything the OP mentioned, I'm actually okay with the GL buffs because I'm a weirdo who likes to toss a few pipes down range, and just spam stickies if I'm low and health and need to stall a choke point.

TL;DR

Volvo pl0x fix ur hud nut funE bud

[Clear Vision]

Originally posted by Amsel :D:

Originally posted by Pyraax:

Let's hope that these bugs decrease the average number of Spies per matches.
Now all we need is a huge nerf for Sniper, like no headshots and then 2fort would be a much better place.

Wouldn't it be nice if they made a map like 2fort3 (Two forts Version Three, because of the TFC one the terrible one they have now and then this is the third) and actually balanced it for the game we're playing, and not an old one that they purposley made different.

Also I really hope they fix everything the OP mentioned, I'm actually okay with the GL buffs because I'm a weirdo who likes to toss a few pipes down range, and just spam stickies if I'm low and health and new to stall a choke point.

TL;DR

Volvo pl0x fix ur hud nut funE bud

You don't need a TL:DR section for a post that is 3 short paragraphs long...

2Fort shouldn't even exist, it ties with rd_asteroid for the worst map designs ever.

[Godhand Himself]

Zomgz Dis guy so rite Volvo pls make spey have 200 health and unwimimited invis plorx? allso his nife isnt powerfl enuf, mak it a 1 ht kil

[Amsel :D]

Originally posted by Flep:

Zomgz Dis guy so rite Volvo pls make spey have 200 health and unwimimited invis plorx? allso his nife isnt powerfl enuf, mak it a 1 ht kil

i no rite? tehy dunt undurstend hao cumplox dis scram fartress evant is.

ulso whay kent sphay atek wen he invisabull

[Godhand Himself]

Originally posted by Amsel :D:

Originally posted by Flep:

Zomgz Dis guy so rite Volvo pls make spey have 200 health and unwimimited invis plorx? allso his nife isnt powerfl enuf, mak it a 1 ht kil

i no rite? tehy dunt undurstend hao cumplox dis scram fartress evant is.

ulso whay kent sphay atek wen he invisabull

Ys an he dont unclook

[Dead]

Goddamn you Merasmus, stop using your petty magic to change shit and fix this super low intentive feature!

[jua]

I thought grenade launchers aren't supposed to have damage fall-off in the first place?

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

Originally posted by Luke Hammerwatcher:

Goddamn you Merasmus, stop using your petty magic to change shit and fix this super low intentive feature!

Yes sir!

Originally posted by Black Market Healer:

I thought grenade launchers aren't supposed to have damage fall-off in the first place?

Main feautre of the demoman. No damage fall off on weapons, discouting explosive fall off and rollers.

[boolean]

Nades never had falloff, they just had damage spread. The good part: stock grenades now do a fixed 112 on nospread servers ( almost all public servers are not nospread), which is the same damage as a nospread rocket at point blank. The bad: on servers with damage spread (aka the vast majority of public servers), the stock GL now deals up to 128(!) damage, and the loch up to 152(!!!!!!!!!). What the hell was valve thinking?

[Pokevaati]

Originally posted by Flep:

Zomgz Dis guy so rite Volvo pls make spey have 200 health and unwimimited invis plorx? allso his nife isnt powerfl enuf, mak it a 1 ht kil

its called the conivers kunai and the cloak and dagger