Team Fortress 2
revolver toast 2014년 10월 30일 오후 2시 05분
[FIXED] SPY NERFS EVERYWHERE, DEMO BUFFS!!!? WHAT THE ****!
As it happens, all of the problems were fixed. Thanks Valve!
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352 Pain Trains (차단됨) 2014년 10월 30일 오후 2시 09분 
Toast님이 먼저 게시:
Medics with the solem vow and spies can see enemy spies, that are cloaked (WITH ALL WATCHES). They can do this by tracking the new health bar from the new hud. Apparently this works if you have seen the spy uncloaked earlier in your current life..?
That's a bug.

Medics with the solem vow and spies can see a disguised spy's actual health, and not his disguised victim's health. This is again through the new health bar from the new hud.
Again, that's a bug.

As any class but the spy and medics with the solem vow, you can be 100 % certain if someone is a spy or not. This is because those other classes can only see friendlies health, however this is not considered with the new health bars. This means that friendly disguised spies' health bar will NOT show to enemies, thus making the enemy 100 % certain of him being on the other team, because if it were to be a normal team member, he would be able to see his health.
And yet again, that's a bug.

The spy-cicle has been "ninja-nerfed" to oblivion. You can now only take 1 fire damage, will still being safe from fire. This means that if you're hit with the spy-cicle out 2 or more times, you will catch on fire and take the afterburn damage.
Definitely a bug.
Galgari 2014년 10월 30일 오후 2시 11분 
Welcome, foolish mortals, to Bug Fortress 2!


Like fix all of them its unfair for any spy.
baby gameplay 2014년 10월 30일 오후 4시 32분 
Let's hope that these bugs decrease the average number of Spies per matches.
Now all we need is a huge nerf for Sniper, like no headshots and then 2fort would be a much better place.
Collisto 2014년 10월 30일 오후 4시 34분 
They just compeltly broke the spy-cicle to oblivion
Clear Vision 2014년 10월 30일 오후 4시 35분 
I'm pretty sure that everything you've mentioned is unintentional and Valve will patch it ASAP.
Amsel :D 2014년 10월 30일 오후 4시 41분 
Pyraax님이 먼저 게시:
Let's hope that these bugs decrease the average number of Spies per matches.
Now all we need is a huge nerf for Sniper, like no headshots and then 2fort would be a much better place.

Wouldn't it be nice if they made a map like 2fort3 (Two forts Version Three, because of the TFC one the terrible one they have now and then this is the third) and actually balanced it for the game we're playing, and not an old one that they purposley made different.

Also I really hope they fix everything the OP mentioned, I'm actually okay with the GL buffs because I'm a weirdo who likes to toss a few pipes down range, and just spam stickies if I'm low and health and need to stall a choke point.

TL;DR

Volvo pl0x fix ur hud nut funE bud
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Clear Vision 2014년 10월 30일 오후 4시 43분 
Amsel :D님이 먼저 게시:
Pyraax님이 먼저 게시:
Let's hope that these bugs decrease the average number of Spies per matches.
Now all we need is a huge nerf for Sniper, like no headshots and then 2fort would be a much better place.

Wouldn't it be nice if they made a map like 2fort3 (Two forts Version Three, because of the TFC one the terrible one they have now and then this is the third) and actually balanced it for the game we're playing, and not an old one that they purposley made different.

Also I really hope they fix everything the OP mentioned, I'm actually okay with the GL buffs because I'm a weirdo who likes to toss a few pipes down range, and just spam stickies if I'm low and health and new to stall a choke point.

TL;DR

Volvo pl0x fix ur hud nut funE bud

You don't need a TL:DR section for a post that is 3 short paragraphs long...

2Fort shouldn't even exist, it ties with rd_asteroid for the worst map designs ever.
Godhand Himself 2014년 10월 30일 오후 4시 47분 
Zomgz Dis guy so rite Volvo pls make spey have 200 health and unwimimited invis plorx? allso his nife isnt powerfl enuf, mak it a 1 ht kil
Amsel :D 2014년 10월 30일 오후 4시 49분 
Flep님이 먼저 게시:
Zomgz Dis guy so rite Volvo pls make spey have 200 health and unwimimited invis plorx? allso his nife isnt powerfl enuf, mak it a 1 ht kil

i no rite? tehy dunt undurstend hao cumplox dis scram fartress evant is.

ulso whay kent sphay atek wen he invisabull
Godhand Himself 2014년 10월 30일 오후 4시 50분 
Amsel :D님이 먼저 게시:
Flep님이 먼저 게시:
Zomgz Dis guy so rite Volvo pls make spey have 200 health and unwimimited invis plorx? allso his nife isnt powerfl enuf, mak it a 1 ht kil

i no rite? tehy dunt undurstend hao cumplox dis scram fartress evant is.

ulso whay kent sphay atek wen he invisabull
Ys an he dont unclook
Dead 2014년 10월 30일 오후 4시 54분 
Goddamn you Merasmus, stop using your petty magic to change shit and fix this super low intentive feature!
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jua 2014년 10월 30일 오후 5시 47분 
I thought grenade launchers aren't supposed to have damage fall-off in the first place?
Grey Star, The Rival Defender (차단됨) 2014년 10월 30일 오후 5시 51분 
Luke Hammerwatcher님이 먼저 게시:
Goddamn you Merasmus, stop using your petty magic to change shit and fix this super low intentive feature!
Yes sir!

Black Market Healer님이 먼저 게시:
I thought grenade launchers aren't supposed to have damage fall-off in the first place?
Main feautre of the demoman. No damage fall off on weapons, discouting explosive fall off and rollers.
boolean 2014년 10월 30일 오후 5시 59분 
Nades never had falloff, they just had damage spread. The good part: stock grenades now do a fixed 112 on nospread servers ( almost all public servers are not nospread), which is the same damage as a nospread rocket at point blank. The bad: on servers with damage spread (aka the vast majority of public servers), the stock GL now deals up to 128(!) damage, and the loch up to 152(!!!!!!!!!). What the hell was valve thinking?
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Pokevaati 2014년 10월 30일 오후 6시 22분 
Flep님이 먼저 게시:
Zomgz Dis guy so rite Volvo pls make spey have 200 health and unwimimited invis plorx? allso his nife isnt powerfl enuf, mak it a 1 ht kil
its called the conivers kunai and the cloak and dagger
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