ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

Extinction Core
Spagett Sep 13, 2017 @ 12:54am
Sasquatch/Yeti vs. Alpha Gigantopithecus Balance?
Reading the creature guide and playing with these creatures has me wondering what the Alpha Giganto's role is exactly? It's far less powerful than the Sasquatch/Yeti, cannot be brought into the boss arenas, and is lacking the ranged attack (being added in the next patch according to Psycho's change notes).

Sasquatch/Yeti
Pros:
-Insane health and damage scaling, can actually invest into health for growth once tamed, unlike Alpha Giganto. (My Sasquatch has 100k Health and 620% melee after being bred/mutated a bit)
-Far more common, in my experience
-Tames on Veggies, no kibble requirement
-Appears to get far more than 20% health boost from a full 100% imprint bonus. In fact it's almost double on mine (Starting health 12k, 23k after imprint)
-Great Torpor and low level bulk, useful even at level 4
-Strong right click rock throw, bypasses "projectile immune" enemies like Skeletals, Chieftains, Bosses, etc.
-Allowed in Boss Arena, dominates bosses
-Turret Mode makes it a top tier base defender

Cons
-Poor taming effectiveness from Veggies, Xeno Kibble doesn't work, Titanboa Kibble doesn't work.
-Large Torpor pool and high damage makes it difficult to tame early game. Seems balanced.
-Helmets break quickly in EC in general, inability to wear Prime helmets gives it very temporary effective health. Again, seems balanced.

Alpha Gigantopithecus
Pros:
-Tames with Titanboa Kibble, good effectiveness if you happen upon a high level.
-Can throw the player, not sure if this is a pro, hardly use this feature

Cons:
-Extremely Rare
-Lacks ranged attacks (being fixed next update)
-Terrible HP scaling, results in bad bulk due to aforementioned helmet problem. Perhaps give them the ability to wear Prime helmets to act as a "saddle."
-Highly aggressive and difficult to tame early game, though seems like an early game Alpha. Like all wild alphas, it Maim's/bleeds, wearing you down eventually regardless of bulk.
-Moderately difficult kibble requirement
-Not Allowed in Boss Arenas

Prime Helmets and shrinking their size to allow cave access could give them a niche/edge vs their beefy counterparts. If anyone else has found a use or advantage for them please let me know. Allowing them in Boss Arenas and not allowing Sasquatch/Yeti in seems like it could help as well.
Last edited by Spagett; Sep 13, 2017 @ 6:34am
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Psycho  [developer] Sep 13, 2017 @ 2:55am 
For the next update, I'll have them adjusted with your feedback taken into consideration.
Thank you.
HiddenSwan Sep 16, 2017 @ 6:30pm 
Aww don't weaken the sasquatch/yetis. improve the giga ;)
STuRoK Aug 24, 2020 @ 12:28pm 
So, which is better now?
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