Hearts of Iron IV

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Daniel  [developer] Jun 28, 2016 @ 1:54pm
Chinese Focus Tree Suggestions
Discussion for suggestions to be included in the Chinese focus tree.
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natashA Jun 28, 2016 @ 2:00pm 
im not very good with this stuff, but I feel like a china unity tree to try and put the country back together before Japan declares war. Also A focus to defeating the Peoples Republic becuase most games I have played they never interact with each other.
Daniel  [developer] Jun 28, 2016 @ 2:28pm 
Yeah I would definitely like to add that type of stuff to the tree.

Originally posted by Stabs McNasty:
Also A focus to defeating the Peoples Republic becuase most games I have played they never interact with each other.

Yeah that happens due to how some of the events are set up. Along with the tree I will make some changes to the events and maybe add a few new ones so that the war is a bit less rigid.
Last edited by Daniel; Jun 28, 2016 @ 2:34pm
Daniel  [developer] Jun 30, 2016 @ 1:42pm 
I have made some progress on the Chinese tree. There is still a fair amount to go but here is what I have so far.
http://i.imgur.com/SfSUsIk.png

You can mostly ignore the stuff on the side of the picture right. Any suggestion, thoughts or concerns?
Last edited by Daniel; Jun 30, 2016 @ 1:48pm
Blackryder8 Jun 30, 2016 @ 3:04pm 
Finally what I have been waiting for. The tree looks amazing. Keep up the good work.
CrusadingNinja Jun 30, 2016 @ 6:51pm 
Great progress so far! This looks great! I have a few suggestions.

-Perhaps change the name of "Crush the Communists" to "Finish the Northern Expedition" to add a little bit more historical flavor to the tree.
-Add wargoals on Mongolia to the Destroy the Soviet Puppet focus, as Mongolia was part of the Qing Empire, the precursor state to KMT China.
-Combine Hong Kong, Macau, and Guangzhouwan claims into one focus. I feel that one focus for each of them is too small and I would spend the focus on something else and just justify manually.
-Non-historical branch of political tree focusing on moving towards democracy and alliance with uk, france, etc. This is to represent Mínquán, one of the three principals of the KMT developed by Sun-Yat-Sen.

Again, Thank you for this wonderful mod, and I hope there will be many more trees in the future!
TheRagsMan Jun 30, 2016 @ 7:28pm 
Looks great!!!

-For the western territories could be in a single focus of, Remove Western Presence in China.
(You could use the ultimantum mechanics for it like in the Baltics for the USSR.)
Daniel  [developer] Jul 1, 2016 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by You Need Jesus:
Great progress so far! This looks great! I have a few suggestions.

-Perhaps change the name of "Crush the Communists" to "Finish the Northern Expedition" to add a little bit more historical flavor to the tree.
-Add wargoals on Mongolia to the Destroy the Soviet Puppet focus, as Mongolia was part of the Qing Empire, the precursor state to KMT China.
-Combine Hong Kong, Macau, and Guangzhouwan claims into one focus. I feel that one focus for each of them is too small and I would spend the focus on something else and just justify manually.
-Non-historical branch of political tree focusing on moving towards democracy and alliance with uk, france, etc. This is to represent Mínquán, one of the three principals of the KMT developed by Sun-Yat-Sen.

Again, Thank you for this wonderful mod, and I hope there will be many more trees in the future!

All sound like pretty great suggestions, thanks.

As to the bit about Hong Kong, macau etc I thought about combining them but the focuses will also send an event to the owners where they can surrender the land, like other focuses in game. The problem is that it wouldn't function correctly under one focus and one focus wouldn't deal with possible non historical alliance scenarios. I will spend a bit of time though to try to remedy the problem.

Originally posted by RaggityManTV:
Looks great!!!

-For the western territories could be in a single focus of, Remove Western Presence in China.
(You could use the ultimantum mechanics for it like in the Baltics for the USSR.)

Yeah that might be the best way to do it. The difference between USSRs focuses and here though is that China starts with claims whereas USSR does not.
SilverBaSeS Jul 1, 2016 @ 5:02am 
There already exists a chinese focus tree mod out made by chinese and in chinese but unfortunately the author of that mod did not buy the game therefore he cant upload it to steam workshop.
You may be able to take some inspiration from that mod. here's the download link of that mod
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💙Kisyana💙 Jul 1, 2016 @ 7:28am 
Marxism on rise OR Ban Communism
Roninlord Jul 1, 2016 @ 11:25am 
Border war with Japan before the start of the actual war, to squeeze out a border zone demilitarization agreement so you'd have an edge
Last edited by Roninlord; Jul 1, 2016 @ 11:25am
Daniel  [developer] Jul 1, 2016 @ 1:52pm 
Ive done some more work on the tree tonight, here is the updated version thus far.
http://i.imgur.com/U67XQnR.png
America sent huge amount of guns during their lend leas programm and created their entire Air force. So maybe an focus to force the ai to give lend lease would be great.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Safety_Zone
this is something i would also like to see implemented in one way or another.
Daniel  [developer] Jul 1, 2016 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by 78 an ordinary human bean:
America sent huge amount of guns during their lend leas programm and created their entire Air force. So maybe an focus to force the ai to give lend lease would be great.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Safety_Zone
this is something i would also like to see implemented in one way or another.
I thought about adding somthing like that but as far as I know there is no way to force the AI to send lend lease so I doubt it will be doable.
CrusadingNinja Jul 1, 2016 @ 3:44pm 
Looks great! Will there be an industrial, army, navy, and air force branch soon? :D
Daniel  [developer] Jul 1, 2016 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by You Need Jesus:
Looks great! Will there be an industrial, army, navy, and air force branch soon? :D
Yeah there will be somthing along the lines of that added soon. This is just what I have completed right now.
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