Originally posted by bonnie the bunny:

ITS FOR ALL CLASS'S THIS DISCUSSION SHOULDN'T EXIST!!!

this is true. I also think it should be for spy still because, as you know a crowbar has two ends with those sharp bits (i know they arent super sharp but still) one is bent and another isn't. the unbent sharp bit could be used to stab (ineffective but still works), also, the bent part could be used as a backstab with a different animation, im talking about the spy using the hooked part and hitting their head from behind.

If it makes it into the game, it's going to be an all-class weapon. Why should Spies be deprived of it just because it looks 'dumb'? You have to remember that TF2 can't be played in 3rd person outside of taunts and killcams, plus it's a cool weapon and I think it would look pretty nice in the hands of a Spy.

Originally posted by connor20705:

1 because seing the spy carrying a crobar like a knife looked Dum and if he dosnt then hes look like hes a scout spy 2 because it would be a great taunt kill for every other class but the spy is just plain dumb

THIS WILL BE FOR ALL CLASSES EXCEPT ENGINEER, MEDIC AND SPY LIKE TEAM FORTRESS CLASSIC!

I think it should be every class. Including spy and engineer. I feel like engineer using a crowbar would work. Also Tf2 is supposed to be a lighthearted funny game. The spy using a crowbar would be hilarious.

If it is added, it will be for all classes except Spy, just like the Necro Smasher (Engi could work with it)

Is the golden pan suitable for spy?No?You can backstab with it can't you?
I rest my case

Backstabbing people with this would be awesome!

I disagree. The idea of backstabbing with a cro bar is just too good of a thought.

why not the spy instead of lifting it like a knife for a back stab puts his other hand on it and lifts it up and brings it down like a real weapon. And it just suits the engineer having a crow bar like really... And the medic its kinda more viariate from the average bone saw. And for the pyro... well we all know this fits him perfectly... The pyros mute, he uses everyday tools as weapons, he has a "HOME-MADE" flame thrower... Its obviously Gordan Freeman behind that mask... and combined with game theory does this mean that Gordan Freeman is gay? *DUN DUN DUN!*
My case is closed...

Originally posted by Ninjahedge|MyU:

It would only work for those that could actually LIFT a crowbar!

How do you thinks the crowbars weights ?

All class weapon, also for Spy...
Hits directed on occiput can be lethal, and occiput, just back, is on the back site of the body...

I recommend every classes including the engi and the spy to use the crowbar..

THERE IS A REASON WHY, i'm not making it more like TFC!

The crowbar is a tool (or not) and it can be used for the engi since he uses wrench and he uses a a hammer, SO WHY NOT? an engi holding a crowbar would be cool.

for the spy, it's alot useful for the spy to backstab anyone with the freeman's friend (The crowbar) because when you hit a headcrab with the crowbar, it dies, SO YEAH.

backstabbing with a crowbar is awesome.. so calm down and give poor spy a chance to hold something.

This is my opinion, anyone who actually gets mad on it will actually be blocked from my profile.

Shouldnt be a spy or an engineer melee weapon, only because their weapons are class specific, and you can't exactly claim a crowbar is a tool for building ♥♥♥♥. Engineer is a bit more mechanical themed. Also note the melee weapons of spies have that whole backstab thing going for them, and butterflying does ♥♥♥♥ all damage in comparison to other melee weapons for other classes.

I can picture the scout using this, the sniper, maybe the soldier too. Demoman... eeeh, Heavy, most certainly not (size issues, and heavy melee is more focused on fists/gloves/etc, not on weapons). Medic could probably get away with it. Pyro too. But I think heavy, spy and engineer should not have access to it simply because it doesn't match the theme of their existing weapons.

As-long as pyro can hold it, I'm ok!

Originally posted by Carrot Eating ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Oh boy. Someone else who thinks spies shouldn't be free to enjoy "allclass" melee toys. It's really only a matter of the spy needing a different animation to "backstab" with it. That has been killing the fun for years, though. Even then, the golden pan has no problem with backstabbing people, and it's not even shapped for the job in any way. Are we really going to pretend TF2 is realistic?

i was thinking he breaks the neck with the bar?