Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

EAW: Save Thranx
Mobius Nov 10, 2024 @ 5:37pm
[Suggestion]Thranx Lives! But what about interactions?
The following suggested interactions should Thranx be allowed to stay

[Scenario 1]
Prerequisites:
-Changeling Civil War has concluded, CCN has completed Bittersweet Victory OR CHN no longer exists
-Duchy of Yaledom (Grover II) has taken over Griffinheim, Grover VI is alive
-Player has completed "School of Experimental Warfare" & "An Army Befitting of an Emperor" focus

> A 2-3 part event where Grover II is fascinated by the new tanks and their respective changeling design heritage, Grover VI mentions about his experiences about the Changeling Tanks and recommends a Changeling that went into hiding. Grover II sends Benito (General -Personal Guard of Grover VI) to search for this Changeling.

[Benito become unavailable for the Next 70-100 Days]

> After 70-100 days Benito finds Thranx hidden among the Maintenance Crews, and sniffed him out. He will talk to Thranx about his reinstatement and Grover VI's recommendation and Grover II' fascination.

The player can then choose
> Thranx Accepts ~ happy about Grover VI's recommendation and admiration about him
> Thranx Hesitates ~ unsure he decides to self exile contemplating which of the neighboring Griffon states to go hide in
> Thanx Rejects ~ decides that maybe it's time for him to go home, and asks if instead be sent back to the new Changeling Lands [only available if Civil War occurred]

IF player:
> Accepts : Thranx becomes a general again but gains the Panzer Leader & Politically Connected Traits, it re-unlocks the decision in regards to the attache, the main difference is that no focuses are available to further receive more buffs from the attache. (if CCN no longer exists then decision becomes unavailable)

> Rejects : Thranx returns to now Harmonic Changeling Lands, leveraging his defiance against Chrysalis as a way to enter his homeland w/ backing from the Griffons, impressing the new King Thorax and his advisors.
[Optional] A decision to re-establish the attache becomes available for CCN, should the empire accepts Thranx returns to the Empire with the Panzer Leader Trait along with the buffs of the attache

> Hesitates : Thranx tries to hide in Griefwald, once the player annexes Griefwald:
>>Before Trimmel Takes Over: Benito locates Thranx again this time living a peaceful life as a farmer. Once again asking to [Accept] or [Reject, if CCN does not exists he stays w/ peaceful life as a farmer].

>>After Trimmel Takes Over: Benito finds Thranx among the prosecuted Griffons of Greifwald, Thranx can only request to return home, if he returns this way the decision for the CCN to re-establish the Attache becomes unavailable. (He is also unavailable to become a General in the CCN this way, if CCN does not exist by the time this event popup, he returns into a peaceful life as a farmer)

[Reasoning] Upon reading Grover II story line I noticed that he has the same fascination about tanks like his descendant Grover VI. So I figured mayhaps we could include Thranx as a part of this wholesome moment. Of course there are some downsides like further national spirits being not available since those are part of the starting Griffonian Empire. While technically it could be part of a separate tree it's something I'll leave for you to decide if you wish to implement this suggestion
Last edited by Mobius; Nov 10, 2024 @ 5:52pm
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Mobius Nov 10, 2024 @ 6:20pm 
[Scenario 2.1]
Prerequisites:
-Changeling Civil War has concluded, CCN has completed Bittersweet Victory OR CHN rulling party is Harmonic/Non Aligned
-The Archon becomes Regent
-Feathesia (Duke) or Feathesi-Strawberry (Duke & Duchess married) has taken over Griffinheim, Grover VI is alive
-Player has completed "Mobiele-Oologsvoering Doctrine" focus

-An event where Thranx forces a meeting with the Duke, requesting to be sent home, but the Duke knows about Thranx modeling with the Child Emperor, nobility and his new found connections and insists that he should remain and help rebuild the empire.

The Player can:
> Agree : Thranx states his allegiance with the Reich and returns as a General. Later after the Empire is whole again, a decision is unlocked to re-establish the Attache (only if CCN exists or the Changeling Lands is under Harmonic or Non-Aligned)

> Insist (only if CCN exists or the Changeling Lands is under Harmonic or Non-Aligned): Thranx says his goodbyes to the young emperor and returns to his homeland.
[Optional] A decision to re-establish the attache becomes available for CCN, should the empire accepts Thranx returns to the Empire with the Panzer Leader Trait along with the buffs of the attache

[Reasoning] Thranx story mentions him interacting with the Griffonian Nobility (and is one of the reason why he gets executed in the base mod). Now I wanted to suggest something similar for Strawberry, but I noticed there is such a huge difference with the culture Strawberry and Feathesia.

The former is a land locked state that is clearly only have known Griffons and Ponies in their entire history and would be heavily un-trusting of other race specially shape shifters on the other hand Feathesia has a rich naval and sailing/seafaring history and has interacted more races apart from whom lives in the continent as such a Changeling Attache and foreign General training and commanding wouldn't be much of conflict for a regrowing nation.
Mobius Nov 10, 2024 @ 6:27pm 
[Scenario 2.2]
Prerequisites:
-Changeling Civil War has concluded, CCN has completed Bittersweet Victory OR CHN rulling party is Harmonic/Non Aligned
-The Duchess becomes regent
-Feathesi-Strawberry (Duke & Duchess married) has taken over Griffinheim, Grover VI is alive

Automatically adds Thranx with Benito to the Generals list for Feathesia-Strawberry

[Reasoning] Like Benito, whom for some reason disappear to who knows where when the Marriage event is completed by the player. This is most likely a bug (pun not intended), and will be fixed once the Feathesian rework is added.

So it's just Thranx get added to the General's list of Feathesia-Strawberry, and if the empire itself re-activates the attache , the national spirit gets added too, and if they haven't yet then the decision is unlocked
Mobius Nov 10, 2024 @ 7:05pm 
[Scenario 3.1]
Prerequisites:
-CHN does NOT recall the attache, Ruling party is supremacist
-CHN has won the Great War
-All territories of Nova Griffonia & Virgilia is a puppet under CHN OR no longer exists (annexed)
-Griffonian Empire has taken over/defeated the River Federation/Union and has full control of the continent (Not required New Mareland, the Order & Dread League)
-Grenecylf is part of the River Federation/Union or no longer exists (annexed)


>A decision is unlocked to release Grenecylf as an separate Reichskommissariat (puppet) with a choice on appointing Thranx as it's leader (switching uniform/portrait in the process) leaving the empire as a General

IF Thranx was not appointed as it Grenceylf's leader, CHN may request the transfer of the territory to the Changeling Lands(puppet) & its faction once Grover VI is in power, this for "uniting all changelings under one banner, in turn they will transfer all of Nova Griffonia & Virgillia in return

>>Rejecting the offer will sour relations with between the two empires

>> Accept but in one condition: Thranx will take charge of Grenecylf (no portrait change), giving positive relations between the two empires, while leaving the empire as a General

Unlocks: Infiltrator Support Company tech

[Scenario 3.2]
-CHN does NOT recall the attache, Ruling party is supremacist OR Changeling Civil War has concluded, CCN has completed Bittersweet Victory OR CHN rulling party is Harmonic/Non Aligned


-Griffonian Empire has taken over/defeated the River Federation/Union and has full control of the continent (Not required New Mareland, the Order & Dread League)
-Grenecylf is independent, not part of any faction, & ruling part is NOT communist
-Grover VI is the Leader of the Griffonian Empire


>A decision is unlocked propping an event where Thranx is sent as an emissary to the island Changelings, culminating with an invitation for the nation to join the Reichpakt faction

The probability of accepting depends on the Empire's Current Alignment matching Grenecylf

If Grenecylf accepts they will join the Reichpakt faction

Unlocks: Infiltrator Support Company tech

[Reasoning] These two suggestions are just for hidden bonuses of having Thranx in the Empire apart from the Attache bonus of the starting Griffonian Empire. Since other nations do get cross species exclusive tech I figure Thranx be the helping hoof for granting the default empire getting bonus tech
Codecruncher17  [developer] Nov 10, 2024 @ 8:48pm 
Very well written suggests.
I am a fan of Scenario 1 and 2.2 right off the bat but all four are very reasonable in terms of immersion and coding.

1.1 almost has a comedic element to it as I like the idea of Benito stalking around a tank yard acting as one would expect an actual hunting dog to act, as the other personal stare on in bewilderment. It would also help to bolster the Yale tree with the attache having its focus on armor.

I shall see what I can do in the coming days.
Mobius Nov 12, 2024 @ 6:38pm 
[Scenario 4]
Prerequisites
-CHN is victorious in the great war
-New Mareland exists, Rulling Party is Harmonic
-Equestria's Government is in Excile
-New Mareland is not at war (excluding CHN)
-Grover VI is alive
-Griffonian Empire has an active agency (Optional)
-Griffonian Empire has annexed Aquilla and/or Wingbardy (Optional)

>>Separate 3 part events that has some steep prerequisites
>> Thranx receives a report about the events in equestria and takes pity on the creatures trapped in the continent, he contemplates on whether there is something he can do.

The player can chose to:
[Hide his concerns] : Thranx drops his concerns tries to refocus on his line of work [Nothing Happens]
[Work Discretely] : Thranx begin to form contacts within New Mareland Griffon minority, in disguise.

Working Discretely will unlock decisions for he following actions

~[Griffon Sonder Kommando] : Taking this decision will (after 120 days) will spawn infantry divisions for New Mareland

Division Design
Name: Griffon Volunteers
> Low Equipment Priority
> Experience: Recruit

Support Companies: Engineer & Recon
IF:
Aquilla has been annexed: add Magical Support Battalion
Wingbardy has been annexed: add Maintenance Support battalion

Companies : 5x Infantry Company 1x Artillery Company

>> Thranx will secretly send advisors and instructors to the Griffon minority that supports new marelands, although their training will not be up to par with what the empire has for it's own griffons, this small effort will surely aid in the upcoming conflict.

~[Equipment Disposal Orders] : Taking this Decision will (after 100 days) send 1000x Rifles, 1000 support equipment, 250 artillery to New Mareland. Older equipment first

>> Under the guise of disposal orders, Thranx re-routes unused equipment from the Empires stockpile into his planned Griffon Volunteers

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Once New Mareland Declares War on the Changeling Lands a new set of decisions will be unlocked

~[More Disposal Orders?!] Same as the earlier Decision, now including 300 Light Tanks and 150 Figther Aircraft, oldest equipment first.

IF:
{Aquilla was annexed before}
>[Scrap Incomplete Submarine Hulls?] : Add 5 Submarines to the New Mareland navy, adds Sold for Scrap? National Spirit (-5.0% Consumer Goods for 240 days)

{Wingardy was annexed before}
>[Not to Standards?] : Add 5 Destroyers to the New Mareland navy, add Secondary Bidders? National Spirit (-5.0% Consumer Goods for 240 days)

{ELF exists and is at war w/ CHN}
>[Secret Shipment] : Adds 1000 support equipment, 250 artillery, 200 Tanks & 100 Fighters to ELF stockpiles (oldest equipment first)

>> Simple Decisions for G.E to discretely support the Equestrians

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The War

~[ELF or New Mareland has control of Canterlot]
>{Event:} Thranx puts out a proposal to the current regent that the Empire could leverage this current events, unveiling his actions. The current regent will be furious and would lash out against Thranx, young Grover VI will overhear this and protects Thranx.

>> The player can pursue or deny this proposal, denying will cause Thranx to be temporarily unavailable for the next 200 days.

If the player does pursue they will receive a war goal against the CHN and Non-Aggression Pacts with New Mareland & ELF (if they still exists) after 100 days

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The IFs:

~[ELF/New Mareland won against CHN w/o G.E Intervention.] Thranx reveals his actions to the current Regent and which would leave them disappointed, though Thranx does accept full responsibility and anticipating reprimands and just punishment, he is instead ordered to be the official negotiator for the reestablishment of the Changeling-Griffonian Attache, albeit he has to convince the Equestrian Leadership for approval.

>>[Probability of Equestria Accepting is dependent on current relations, excluding if Blue Blood happens to be the current country leader of Equestria}



~[ELF/New Mareland won against CHN w/ G.E Intervention.] After the War two decisions are unlocked, the player MUST NOT annexed/puppent any Equus Lands/Island

~>[Negotiate a Changeling-Reichskommissariat] -
>Leveraging their contribution in the war the Empire can challenge Equestria's right to oversee the occupation of the Changeling Lands. Though hesitant the Equestrian Leadership understands their position and agrees....

Until a certain a certain Field Marshall -Prince Blueblood begins an unreasonable argument and causes a brawl among the Equestrians. After the chaos, a finalized agreement was signed;

For the empire:
All imperial troops are to be given safe passage back to their homeland,
All changelings are given safe passage back to their hives
A Demiliterized Zone on both sides of the Changeling-Equestrian, Bear & Olenian Borders are declared
Lastly an Imperial Ambassador was to be placed in charge of the Reichskommissariat.

Just as Thranx was about to prepare to leave and return to the Imperial Core, a telegram has been sent ordering him to take command of the new Reichskommissariat, much to his surprise. Though Uncertain, Thranx agrees

>> Thranx leavers the Griffonian Empire, becomes the Leader of the Changeling-Reichskommissariat (Autonomous Vassal), Changeling-Griffonian Attache is automatically added


~> [Demand Nova Griffonia & Virgilia] -(Only available if Nova Griffonia & Virgilia was under CHN or a CHN controlled puppet)

>Leveraging their contribution in the war the Empire can challenge Equestria's right to oversee the occupation of Nova Griffonian Lands. With no amount of troops nor willing volunteers & an economy in shambles the Equestrian Leadership understands their position and agrees. Finding no suitable personnel within the remaining Nova Griffonian Politacal circle, the current regent contemplates on who to assign as it's Colonial Territories Leader.

>>The player can chose among any of their Generals (including Thranx) to be assigned.

[Choosing Thranx will only add an event where he would allow the Nova Griffonians to choose whether stay in the Colonies, return to the imperial homelands or migrate into Equestria.]

Nova Griffonia becomes an Autonomous Vassal
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Consequences - IF

[New Mareland No longer exists after at least one of the earlier decisions are completed] - Benito will find out about his plans & will report about it to the current regent, which results of him being reprimanded. All other decisions will no longer be available, Thranx will not be available as a General for 180 days.

[New Mareland No longer exists after at least one of the decisions are completed and was at war with the CHN] - Benito will find out about his plans & will report about it to the current regent, which results of him being reprimanded severely All other decisions will no longer be available, Thranx will not be available as a General for 365 days(1 year).

[Player Choose to puppet both Changeling Lands & Nova Griffonia via decisions] - if both decisions are taken, this will severely damage the relations of both Equestria & the Empire. The initial Non-Aggression Pact will be revoked.

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[Reasoning]
I had this idea stuck in my head, but never nearly fully completed it text, I wanted to see if other core territories of the G.E first (Strawberry, Bronzehill etc.) but couldn't find any more changeling interactions on their main paths at least. So I went back into writing, on a side note, I noticed people really wanted retribution for Thranx from the vanilla point of view, and even read of the other suggestion so I wanted to bring out my take into it.

The changeling way, as I tried to put a realistic PoV, in Thranx Position and his nature & capabilities as a Changeling


This is most likely my last suggestion here, until I find other changeling-empire interactions in the mod. As such I will be prioritizing bug testing (pun not included) the upcoming updates for this mod.
Last edited by Mobius; Nov 12, 2024 @ 6:38pm
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