Doom
Role : 2nd tank, golddigga/utility and late carry.
Talents : stats, tank regen hp and finale inferno.
Items Pre-NG : Octarine-D.octarine, forceshoes-blinkshoes, aghanim, D.armor-B.chest.linken for axe,dp and wk round, but for troll round its a bit tricky no bkb or linken will help you, and difussal are removed so meld each troll fast is the answer for now, midas hammer/shoeshammer. Pixels
Items NG+ : B.armor/asura plate, Styter, Max D.Soul.2nd aghanim.midas fury/burning.
perks : HP /dmg buffs.

reasons : styer is amp your W,E, soul build is essence for mobs and drakes since wicked will not clear mobs as its used to be i meant 2 digits dmg vs zillion hp is not the right one.we have to meld 1 by 1, and lets face it in 350 range are suicidal even with 4k armor. drake meld you with 5k armor in a mere sec.and asura plate mean your main tank and carry saving golds for their role items and slots for immunity. why not full carry? cause on higher mode you need to on and off tank, no one can tank all of em. yeah you can build full carries on champion mode or higher mode on hard but thats it, that is his limit.

Tips : if you have lech on team and axe, better get veil 1st rather than armor or hp. veil mean you will meld a couple 1st rounds faster (note: its amp your W,E and lesh skills but its beware of massive elite or 4k range, and try to prepare chonos or pixels/shiva is helping alot with zombies and LC, sooner is best for this early round on higher mode, as pre assume if axe around and be main tank while lech can get guaridian greaves so heal and mana is not case anymore)

Conclusion: this hero are good on early cause W and a bit Q for gold, while mid game he losses his touch and wont shine for a moments, yeah he can spam doom W Q E then run thats it. forget about Q W on NG+ its not worthy, but when his infernal blade maxed + styer + soul its decent AF.

tested best on heroic mode.

I guess you posted that in the wrong thread?!
But anyways - orchid + upgrades are a must have on doom! :-)
Kick useless midasfury for it.

well, i think in general there are no new meta, except some talent wombo combo with lens and veil but its not that strong to called new meta.

however there are some old schol stuffs trick and tips with some tweaks that will works well on epic and make life a lot easier:

1. we assumed that no such thing as midas on r2 or no immunity players on this level. its best to amp team picked with builds, such as lechrac on team its better for to pick support/any hero that used veil also, and dont be greedy to aiming scyter its just wont works, the gold gain will not allow you to get these not until NG or last bosses except u have agh alcemist with manta and your tank are so good to tanks those mobs. and try to balance melee and range heroes, 2 3 its best but its may vary.

2. making lame supports to be more viable like dazzle, bane, vs, etc using underrated items like: moon crest with lunar crest, any deso plus ghost staff, are so good to melting any single bosses and still alive. while bane can cast those items then used his ult+aghamin+pixel to avoid being attacked or dead. the backfire is used too many slots but lame supports like these doesnt need many items, pixel or b.chest and blink shoes and maybe some heal or octarine or slow ms item or lifesteal team item? whatever.

3. alcemist feat CK is gain benefits each another, alchemist can give agh to CK for lower price than 2nd aghanim, while CK can give extra illusions to acle with manta for faster farms. note : TB reflac iullusions doesnt trigger alce greed.this is the fastest way to gain golds. well i want to put BH on this but BH cant tank,may works with alce but not as strong as CK & alce wombo combo.

Sorry SoZe, this this was more meant as a joke thread!
Maybe i should have been more clear about it.
I just find it funny to see many of the dota2 pro players get builds like octarine+blademail now in their matches - a combination of items thats succes was known to us EBF players for a long time.
To make a joke about that was the sole point of this thread! =)

u didnt mention its doto bro.LOL

Originally posted by SoZe:

u didnt mention its doto bro.LOL

I know sry - its changed now though! :-)