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themediocrity  [developer] Oct 6, 2023 @ 5:26am
Crash reports
If you experience a crash please let me know here with as much information as you can recall about:

  • Divisions that were in the game
  • Decks you were using
  • What you were doing
  • What time it was in the game

If you don't recall any of that, still let me know. It helps to know that something's wrong.

At present I have two reports of crashes so there's at least one bug hiding out there. I haven't been able to create it so far so I could use more information while I try to hunt it down.

Under investigation:
  • CTD, possibly related to M1A1
  • Possible some SEAD planes cannot be called in
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Last edited by themediocrity; Oct 6, 2023 @ 11:36am
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ArxInvicta Oct 6, 2023 @ 6:48am 
1st Game:

Divisions:
NATO:
11th Arm. Cav. (Custom Deck, Player)
2nd Infantry (Official Deck, AI)
2. Panzergrenadier (Official Deck, AI)

PACT:
4. MSD (Offical Deck, AI)
K.d.A. (Official Deck, AI)
79. Gv. TD. (Offical Deck AI)

What I was doing: Played on Map MOUNT RIVER (6P), had a single M1A1 Abrams in a Forest Area which got surprised by an enemy Infantry unit. Abrams survived, turned to engage, the moment I hear the machine guns open fire the game crashes.

2nd Game:

Divisions:
NATO:
8th Infantry. (Custom Deck, Player)
5. Panzer (Official Deck, AI)
1st Armoured (Official Deck, AI)

PACT:
119-Y ODT (Offical Deck, AI)
7. Panzer (Official Deck, AI)
79. Gv. TD. (Offical Deck AI)

What I was doing: Played on GEISHA (20P) and took the narrow forest route on the side. Suspected Abrams being ambushed in a forest area will cause the game to crash so vowed to not let this happen. M1A1 Abrams got ambushed by Infantry in a forest area, survived the ambush, fired back. Heard the machine gun sound, game crashed.

Wrote a crash report on the steam page here afterwards.

In both cases it was like 10 Minutes into the game. Will play now, maybe I can recreate it again, I have a weird curse to have tanks ambushed in forest.
Last edited by ArxInvicta; Oct 6, 2023 @ 6:48am
themediocrity  [developer] Oct 6, 2023 @ 7:32am 
Thank you! this is great. I'll do some more tests. M1A1 seems like the prime suspect for now.
ArxInvicta Oct 6, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
Hmmm, now it crashed again without the M1A1 firing...(was playing 8th Infantry again) could it be related to the amount of effects on the screen? I also use PIVADS in both the 11th armored and the 8th infantry, both the Pivads and the M1A1 Abrams throw a lot of bullets towards the enemy.

https://workupload.com/file/jcRSJLcX9uz

This is the crashreport of the game, I am not sure if that helps you in any way

Edit:

Just made a 1vs1 and made a picture of the exact units I used. With this unit composition the game crashed after around 10 minutes.

Played as 8th Infantry, enemy was 4. MSD on 2 Player Airport

Units used:

M1 Abrams CP
M1A1 Abrams (2x)
Mech rifles Leader in M113
Mech Rifles in M113 (3x)
HEMTT
M163 Pivads
M48A1 Chaparral (2x)

Game crashed while Abrams with M113 made an advance over the airfield using the Q-attack command. Chaparral was under enemy artillery fire and engaged a helicopter.
Last edited by ArxInvicta; Oct 6, 2023 @ 2:13pm
themediocrity  [developer] Oct 6, 2023 @ 2:39pm 
Hmmmm...do you think you could show me the deck you're using? I'm trying to recreate the issue but I haven't gotten it so far. Do you have similar crashes in any other decks?

The most likely cause is a bugged unit, likely in the weapon descriptor (for example a unit getting a weapon that has no ammo because I fat finger something). Generally I find these by getting the crash, then eliminating divisions and units until I isolate the culprit. It'll probably take a while unfortunately, but I am optimistic I can find it.
ArxInvicta Oct 6, 2023 @ 11:47pm 
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Thats the 8th infantry battlegroup I am using, Enemy is the official 4. MSD battlegroup.
ArxInvicta Oct 7, 2023 @ 12:07am 
Breakthrough!

After LOTS of playing, saving, crashing and reloading (sorry people in my steam friend list) I finally managed to get a save file SECONDS before it crashes. Every. Single. Time.

I uploaded pictures of what exactly is happening:

https://workupload.com/archive/tZeYyxbhPr

Two W50 LA/A advance, one gets destroyed which does not cause a crash. However the second one advances over a field, gets under fire by M1A1 Abrams and M113, the SECOND it is destroyed the game crashes. Every. Single. Time.

The only unit in the 4. MSD official deck using W50 LA/A is FS-Jäger, I think those were the same dudes that ambushed me in the forest the first game.

If there is a way to send save files I can of course also do that.
Last edited by ArxInvicta; Oct 7, 2023 @ 12:13am
themediocrity  [developer] Oct 7, 2023 @ 10:02am 
Awesome! That's above and beyond. I think I found the issue thanks directly to your post. The FS-Jäger had two weapons using the same ammo, which is very likely to be the culprit. Hotfix coming shortly. Let me know if you keep seeing it.
ArxInvicta Oct 7, 2023 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by themediocrity:
Awesome! That's above and beyond. I think I found the issue thanks directly to your post. The FS-Jäger had two weapons using the same ammo, which is very likely to be the culprit. Hotfix coming shortly. Let me know if you keep seeing it.


Amazing, very glad to hear that I could help! Thank you for the amazing mod!
Aztxz Feb 7, 2024 @ 11:29am 
I can't save the 11 CAV Regiment deck if I add an M1A1 CP (1 vehicle per card) to it, but the M1A1CP(2veh per card) is fine.
Last edited by Aztxz; Feb 7, 2024 @ 11:30am
themediocrity  [developer] Feb 7, 2024 @ 4:50pm 
Originally posted by Aztxz:
I can't save the 11 CAV Regiment deck if I add an M1A1 CP (1 vehicle per card) to it, but the M1A1CP(2veh per card) is fine.

Thanks for the heads up! This should be fixed in today's update. Let me know if you continue to see it.
Dinko Goosemas Mar 29, 2024 @ 7:24am 
Just had a CTD from the LOS checker on the command tank in the 7. Panzer (GDR)
themediocrity  [developer] Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:31pm 
Ok thanks, that's very good to know. I'll look into it next week when I'm back on my computer. Should be straightforward.
themediocrity  [developer] Apr 6, 2024 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by themediocrity:
Ok thanks, that's very good to know. I'll look into it next week when I'm back on my computer. Should be straightforward.
I wasn't able to recreate this but it's possible the crash was actually caused by the command DDR UAZ which was crashing the game.
Calcium Apr 16, 2024 @ 11:16am 
Game crashed when using FO with M270 DPICM barrage ( with 3AD deck agains 7th Panzer division)
themediocrity  [developer] Apr 16, 2024 @ 6:38pm 
Ok thanks! I couldn't get it just now, but I'll keep after it and see if it could be something else in 3AD.
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