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KeoniPhoenix  [developer] Sep 22, 2014 @ 1:53am
Answering Questions from the Comments Here...
As the comments are limited to a number of characters, I have to reply either with a number of them to break it up or shift to the Discussions Forum. I really do appreciate if the Forum is used more as keeping track of comments is difficult.

I'm going to start off with this from @Luke:

Luke (posted on September 21, 2014):
Mate I am so overjoyed that y'all did not overlook my native Culture in this, and I can both keep my homeland independent and make it a world power, but I do have a bit of questioning concerning the naming of some things.

Why is the Southern Culture called "Dixie" and not Southern?
Why are the Cajuns and Tenneseans not included in the Southern Culture?
Why is it Called American Babtist and not Southern Babtist like it is IRL?

Don't get me wrong I highly appreciate that the Culture wasnt just made part of an all encompassing "East Coast" Culture as it is very different. I am genuinely happy with the fact I can rebuild the CSA and right its past sins in this alternate universe, but I was just wondering why you chose to cut it up as you did?

Also that being said I think I'm going to Change the CSA's name to Dixieland in the files simply because I prefer the tradional name over the official. :P But that has nothing to do with my questions.

First, Dixie is named, as its the Poetic name of the South and, from my understanding, much of the Southern Culture has historically been called "Dixie" just as the Northern culture has been called "Yankee". Though both terms have been in the decline as the US demographic center shifts Westward.

Tennesseean wasn't included in Dixie because the State's human geography put it in an awkward position, its influenced by the regional culture of the Midwest, the South, and Appalachia. I could have put it in any of them but it went into Appalachia as originally Frankliner (for East Tennesee) wasn't originally included. I can probably change that.

Cajun culture and Louisianan for that matter is quite distinct from much of the South and it was that reason why it was given it own group. Originally I didn't have it separate but I was convinced through a suggestion that the culture should be split and so I read a little more about it and did so.

American Baptist, was chosen to distinguish them as a completely seperate denomination than just your Protestant Bapists which are represented in the game under the Protestant blanket as a possible "heresy" and to make it clear that they're an American denomination to players who are unfamiliar with the churches in the US.

I'm not sure about your last question on having "cut it up". I divided all the cultures between the states for a rather important reason, they really do have their own culture. Sometimes the details might seem minute but they have a profound impact on how people in one part understand their region from another part.
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CrossLegLuke Sep 22, 2014 @ 5:43pm 
The reason I asked that last part is I am from Dixieland. Born and raised. I don't know a single Tennesean that doesn't consider Tennesee a Southern state in Culture. If you were to call a Tennessean anything but Southern those would literally be fighting words and considered an Insult.

I'm native to Georgia, so I have been around Tenneseans a fair bit, and I feel this is a mistake as far as grouping goes.

The Cajuns I can understand a little more, but still not completely.
let me explain:

I am sure in your research of the region you encountered the 3rd National flag of the confederate states? the flag known as "The Blood-stained banner"

That flag was designed with two specific elements in mind:

The first part is the Cross of St. Andrew/Patrick (Depending of Sources) It represented the Southerners in Appalachia and along the coast which had predominantly come from Ireland and Scotland--Mainly the Ulster Region.

The Second part was the red stripe on the end of the flag. This red stripe was taken from the French tri-color and represented the Southerners who had been of French Descent.

Cajuns, Appalachians, and Regular Deep-Southrens are all the same Cultural group. Yes they have differences, but they pride themselves on the name Southern. to split us up like that honestly could be taken as an insult by both Cajuns, and Appalachians. And concerns me as a Georgian that my brothers would be devided from me. We are all Southern, and to split us up like that honestly is a slap in the face, since our enire national identity is based on our unity despite our minor differences.

Dixie or Dixieland is the name of the Region, not the culture. During the civil war we were called Southrens (spelling intentional). and that is our cultures traditional name, but over the years spelling changed back to Southern. But the name Dixie is fine if it has to stay.

I know this all seems petty to you, but to a Southerner... this stuff is very very important. as I said before it is part of our Identity, and how we define ourselves from the rest of the U.S.

Last edited by CrossLegLuke; Sep 22, 2014 @ 5:45pm
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KeoniPhoenix  [developer] Sep 23, 2014 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by Luke:
The reason I asked that last part is I am from Dixieland. Born and raised. I don't know a single Tennesean that doesn't consider Tennesee a Southern state in Culture. If you were to call a Tennessean anything but Southern those would literally be fighting words and considered an Insult.

I'm native to Georgia, so I have been around Tenneseans a fair bit, and I feel this is a mistake as far as grouping goes.

The Cajuns I can understand a little more, but still not completely.
let me explain:

I am sure in your research of the region you encountered the 3rd National flag of the confederate states? the flag known as "The Blood-stained banner"

That flag was designed with two specific elements in mind:

The first part is the Cross of St. Andrew/Patrick (Depending of Sources) It represented the Southerners in Appalachia and along the coast which had predominantly come from Ireland and Scotland--Mainly the Ulster Region.

The Second part was the red stripe on the end of the flag. This red stripe was taken from the French tri-color and represented the Southerners who had been of French Descent.

Cajuns, Appalachians, and Regular Deep-Southrens are all the same Cultural group. Yes they have differences, but they pride themselves on the name Southern. to split us up like that honestly could be taken as an insult by both Cajuns, and Appalachians. And concerns me as a Georgian that my brothers would be devided from me. We are all Southern, and to split us up like that honestly is a slap in the face, since our enire national identity is based on our unity despite our minor differences.

Dixie or Dixieland is the name of the Region, not the culture. During the civil war we were called Southrens (spelling intentional). and that is our cultures traditional name, but over the years spelling changed back to Southern. But the name Dixie is fine if it has to stay.

I know this all seems petty to you, but to a Southerner... this stuff is very very important. as I said before it is part of our Identity, and how we define ourselves from the rest of the U.S.

Ah... in the comments was a player suggestion (current username of hangman) on the subject of the Cajun Louisianan culture issue and it was based on that I split them off from Southern culture group. I read up on it some more and agreed a change was necessary. Granted most of my information comes from Wikipedia but there's going to be some areas that are debatable. As of right now I'm content with Louisiana and Cajun being together as a seperate culture group. As I was and still am against the suggestion of grouping them with the New French (Quebec and Acadian) group as they've been, not just Americanized, but influenced by a strong Southern influence.

However, I have moved Tennesseean to the Southerner culture group. The localization has changed for Dixie.
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CrossLegLuke Sep 23, 2014 @ 2:59pm 
Thank you. I can accept that :D
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CheesyScull Sep 26, 2014 @ 5:29pm 
What are the requirement to form the North American Union , since I have all of the US Canada and Mexico and I still can't form it
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KeoniPhoenix  [developer] Sep 26, 2014 @ 7:47pm 
Originally posted by Scull0234:
What are the requirement to form the North American Union , since I have all of the US Canada and Mexico and I still can't form it
You must be of either Canadian or American Culture. It can't be formed as a Mexican or Australian culture.
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CheesyScull Sep 27, 2014 @ 9:45am 
I started as Idaho , but right now the game is crashing for me , I don't know why I exited the game then when I came back I clicked on my save and the gmae crashes , I have no idea why
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KeoniPhoenix  [developer] Sep 27, 2014 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by Scull0234:
I started as Idaho , but right now the game is crashing for me , I don't know why I exited the game then when I came back I clicked on my save and the gmae crashes , I have no idea why

Sounds like the save file got corrupted :-( You can e-mail it to me and I can test it out.
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CheesyScull Sep 27, 2014 @ 5:33pm 
It's ok :P I conquered all of North America anyway so I just started fresh with Quebec this time :)
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KeoniPhoenix  [developer] Sep 28, 2014 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Scull0234:
It's ok :P I conquered all of North America anyway so I just started fresh with Quebec this time :)

Okay.
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Punished Kaiser Wilhelm II Sep 30, 2014 @ 8:09pm 
i just wanted to point out that harris, bexar, and travis in texas would be better represented as catholic instead of baptist.
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matthew_warren Sep 30, 2014 @ 9:59pm 
Is there a wiki for this mod? id love to know what the formable nations traditions are and which ones become excluded for you to make if you make others, ect.
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EchoLink Oct 3, 2014 @ 5:05pm 
What is the tag for Baja California?
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LockNesTom Oct 4, 2014 @ 12:04pm 
@KeoniPhoenix How do you form the Free States of America? I started as Penn and through a huge amount of luck and planning I have everything that it says is required when I put my mouse over the question mark. Is something missing from there? Because I still can't for it. I own PA, NY, NJ, DE, DC, MD, VT, NH, ID, MI, WI, IL, WV, OH, and a few other provinces all around the area but nothing. I have cores on them as well. Whats wrong?
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Beer_Jan Oct 11, 2014 @ 2:39pm 
How can you change the shapes and add provinces? I want to do that for a mod or something, but I can't figure out how to do it
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KeoniPhoenix  [developer] Oct 12, 2014 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by darkcrusader117:
i just wanted to point out that harris, bexar, and travis in texas would be better represented as catholic instead of baptist.
Really? As the map I used listed them as Southern Bapitist.

Originally posted by Matthew:
Is there a wiki for this mod? id love to know what the formable nations traditions are and which ones become excluded for you to make if you make others, ect.
No as I haven't had time to do one, but if somebody wants to make one I'll be for it and would add stuff too it when I can.

Originally posted by LockNesTom:
@KeoniPhoenix How do you form the Free States of America? I started as Penn and through a huge amount of luck and planning I have everything that it says is required when I put my mouse over the question mark. Is something missing from there? Because I still can't for it. I own PA, NY, NJ, DE, DC, MD, VT, NH, ID, MI, WI, IL, WV, OH, and a few other provinces all around the area but nothing. I have cores on them as well. Whats wrong?
Admin Tech 10? Did you reach it? All but a few formation decisions require either Admin Tech 7, 10, or 15.

Originally posted by kreuzer88:
How can you change the shapes and add provinces? I want to do that for a mod or something, but I can't figure out how to do it
You have to mod the provinces.bmp file found in "...\Europa Universalis IV\map\" folder. If you want to mod my map, its found in the "<My Documents>\Paradox Interactive\Europa Universalis IV\mod\SuperStates\map" (if you have the mod through the Steam Subscription it will be in a zip file named SuperStates.zip but the folder in the zip file will be the same).
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