Europa Universalis IV

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When does the Catholic Church found?
Just wondering at what date the Catholic church gets started up. Is it a Roman Event? Does it just happen at a random year past year X?
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CentricCracker Sep 14, 2014 @ 8:13pm 
For me, it happened around the 860's-870's from a game I started from the fall of Rome.
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qweytr  [developer] Sep 14, 2014 @ 10:51pm 
It usually happens in around 860, if it happens. The schism won't happen if Rome and Constantinople are owned by the same country, or if Rome or Constantinople isn't Chalcedonian.
congruent_leek Oct 21, 2014 @ 8:53pm 
So, if Constantinople is Arian, but Rome is Chalcedonian, it won't fspawn?
qweytr  [developer] Oct 21, 2014 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by congruent_leek:
So, if Constantinople is Arian, but Rome is Chalcedonian, it won't fspawn?
Exactly.
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ItsMcWillie Nov 30, 2014 @ 11:06am 
So I am in the year 950 some. Still hasnt happened. Will it ever have a chance? I dont want to be stuck with Chalce for rest of the game. I want a HRE and Pope! :D
ACExtravaganza Nov 30, 2014 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by DidacticGamer:
So I am in the year 950 some. Still hasnt happened. Will it ever have a chance? I dont want to be stuck with Chalce for rest of the game. I want a HRE and Pope! :D

Were Rome and Constantanople the correct religion? Were they owned by once country?
ACExtravaganza Dec 6, 2014 @ 9:54pm 
890, still no Catholic Church. Rome is controled by the Vandals and constantanople is controled by greece, both of them hate each other, both are enemies. It is possible one was occupying the other city, though they have never diplomatically changed hands.

What is the event ID so I can force it, if needed, or is this still within the time-frame that it is possible to occure? Does the player have to be one of these nations?
ACExtravaganza Dec 7, 2014 @ 1:17am 
The Schism happened near the begining of 909, and hillariously both Greece and the Vandals became Catholic! :P The only two Orthodox nations are Sarmatians and Aksum. If the schism can only happen if Rome and Constantanople are divided, shouldn't the holder of Rome always be Catholic and Constantanople always be Orthodox?
Firesoul Dec 7, 2014 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by andrewenders:
The Schism happened near the begining of 909, and hillariously both Greece and the Vandals became Catholic! :P The only two Orthodox nations are Sarmatians and Aksum. If the schism can only happen if Rome and Constantanople are divided, shouldn't the holder of Rome always be Catholic and Constantanople always be Orthodox?
I think a choice should always be given, but perhaps the AI could be modified so that the AI ruling Rome is more likely (but not certain) to take Catholicism, and the AI ruling Constantinople more likely (but again not certain) to take Orthodoxy.
ACExtravaganza Dec 7, 2014 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by firesoul:
Originally posted by andrewenders:
The Schism happened near the begining of 909, and hillariously both Greece and the Vandals became Catholic! :P The only two Orthodox nations are Sarmatians and Aksum. If the schism can only happen if Rome and Constantanople are divided, shouldn't the holder of Rome always be Catholic and Constantanople always be Orthodox?
I think a choice should always be given, but perhaps the AI could be modified so that the AI ruling Rome is more likely (but not certain) to take Catholicism, and the AI ruling Constantinople more likely (but again not certain) to take Orthodoxy.

I feel like if the schism only happens if Rome and Constantanople are specificallyat odds with one another, and not simply "X country feels one way, while Y country feels another" the two "capitals" of the dispute should be forced to be on opposite sides of it. It doesn't make much thematic sense if they both pick the same religion after the split being them specifically being divided on how it should go.
qweytr  [developer] Dec 7, 2014 @ 11:42pm 
Originally posted by andrewenders:
The Schism happened near the begining of 909, and hillariously both Greece and the Vandals became Catholic! :P The only two Orthodox nations are Sarmatians and Aksum. If the schism can only happen if Rome and Constantanople are divided, shouldn't the holder of Rome always be Catholic and Constantanople always be Orthodox?
That should be fixed now. In case you wonder how the AI decides which religion to take, it's decision on the tech group. Western countries take Catholicism and other tech groups take Orthodox.
MadM Dec 9, 2014 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by qweytr:
Originally posted by andrewenders:
The Schism happened near the begining of 909, and hillariously both Greece and the Vandals became Catholic! :P The only two Orthodox nations are Sarmatians and Aksum. If the schism can only happen if Rome and Constantanople are divided, shouldn't the holder of Rome always be Catholic and Constantanople always be Orthodox?
That should be fixed now. In case you wonder how the AI decides which religion to take, it's decision on the tech group. Western countries take Catholicism and other tech groups take Orthodox.

Really? I thought there was some western orthodox, sure does happen in Ck2 xD. But either way, can you make it a 50/50 chance (besides whoever owns rome) and maybe increase it depending on region, like easterns have a 75/25 chance for orthodox, and westerns have a 75/25 chance on catholic
ACExtravaganza Dec 9, 2014 @ 2:19pm 
Not sure if this should be a new discussion or if it should just go in here, but Gallia just took Rom from the Vandals and founded the Papal state, which isn't Catholic, its Chaldonism. That does not seem right.
MadM Dec 9, 2014 @ 4:41pm 
Histoically, the pope was around before catholic formed, chaldonism didn't split till about 100 years after the pope....if you want to use the catholic pope list, the first pope was about 600-800 year before (dpending on when you see the skism happening), back to pope john, the deciple of Jesus
ACExtravaganza Dec 9, 2014 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by Mmoore2434:
Histoically, the pope was around before catholic formed, chaldonism didn't split till about 100 years after the pope....if you want to use the catholic pope list, the first pope was about 600-800 year before (dpending on when you see the skism happening), back to pope john, the deciple of Jesus

Thats all well and good, but Catholocism has been around for several centuries at the founding of the papal states.
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