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Divine Oct 10, 2015 @ 3:38am
Some religion qns
1. I know secular countries cant convert religions since missionary strength is basically -1000%, but can i change it somewhere so that i can actually start converting provinces to a "secular" religion? :P

2. If i were to play as the roman empire BEFORE christianity arrives, what happens to christianity then? Will it suddenly appear and cause lots of chaos just like in history? If so, can i stop it or will the roman empire be doomed to convert to christianity sooner or later?

3. Do personal unions still work if both me (france) and my junior partners are both secular? :o
Got 3 PU with sicily, carinthia and hungary and im real proud of it, especially when i had to fight an insane war with so many countries (denmark,norway,poland, byzantium,etc) for it :P
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MadM Oct 10, 2015 @ 5:29am 
1. There is only one way to convert a provance to secular and that is to hope for an event that converts your province to your religion (in this case secular)

2. I dont know 100% if you can play before christanity arrived, but if you can then yes it will cause a ton of chaos and make your empire high volatile

3. Secular comes around the same time as all countries started to become republic, and you cant be secular without being republic, so unless you find a way to be a king and secular then no you cant ;)
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qweytr  [developer] Oct 10, 2015 @ 6:03am 
1. There's no way to get secular provinces.

2. Christianity will spread. It will be difficult to stay Hellenic, but it is possible.

3. Secular countries can't get personal unions. I don't think existing PUs will break when you switch.
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Divine Oct 10, 2015 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by qweytr:
1. There's no way to get secular provinces.

2. Christianity will spread. It will be difficult to stay Hellenic, but it is possible.

3. Secular countries can't get personal unions. I don't think existing PUs will break when you switch.

I changed missionary strength to -2% instead of -1000% and got my first secular province now :P ALso changed religious unity to 50% and theres rebels popping out everywhere lol. But then again i just prefer secular to catholic, esp when my neighbours are all secular -_-

And i also added the relevant line to make secular countries able to get PU :D
Last edited by Divine; Oct 10, 2015 @ 7:00am
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Divine Oct 10, 2015 @ 8:48am 
Lol i see the event that prevents secularism now :p

Can i disable it? -.-
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MadM Oct 10, 2015 @ 8:50am 
hit ~ and type in debug_mode, convert another province, once the event pops up you can see what event it is, then look it up in the files and delete it :)
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Divine Oct 10, 2015 @ 9:12am 
Originally posted by Mmoore2434:
hit ~ and type in debug_mode, convert another province, once the event pops up you can see what event it is, then look it up in the files and delete it :)

Yea thanks for that although i have already found the specific event for it. using debug mode confirms that i edited the correct event :D

I simply changed the trigger modifier to affect non cities, which basically means the event wont generally trigger now cause there are very few colonies in my game (1895) now :P
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MadM Oct 10, 2015 @ 10:34am 
Nice Nice
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Unknown Frenchman Nov 9, 2015 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by Cute Hamster:
Originally posted by Mmoore2434:
hit ~ and type in debug_mode, convert another province, once the event pops up you can see what event it is, then look it up in the files and delete it :)

Yea thanks for that although i have already found the specific event for it. using debug mode confirms that i edited the correct event :D

I simply changed the trigger modifier to affect non cities, which basically means the event wont generally trigger now cause there are very few colonies in my game (1895) now :P

Hey, what command (if you used one) did yu use to change the missionary strength?
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Divine Nov 10, 2015 @ 2:11am 
No i edited the file. Prob under religion txt or something (cant remember the name)

You will find the missionary strength under each religion.
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marvelfannumber1 Nov 10, 2015 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by Mmoore2434:

2. I dont know 100% if you can play before christanity arrived, but if you can then yes it will cause a ton of chaos and make your empire high volatile
Well you can't, because in 2 A.D there is still christianity, which doesn't make any sense because at that point Jesus would be 2 years old. Shouldn't those provinces be jewish until ca. 30 A.D?
Last edited by marvelfannumber1; Nov 10, 2015 @ 8:24am
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Unknown Frenchman Nov 10, 2015 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by Cute Hamster:
No i edited the file. Prob under religion txt or something (cant remember the name)

You will find the missionary strength under each religion.

Was that in EUIV files or the mod file (which i can't for some reason find lol)
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qweytr  [developer] Nov 10, 2015 @ 9:55pm 
Originally posted by Unknown Frenchman:
Originally posted by Cute Hamster:
No i edited the file. Prob under religion txt or something (cant remember the name)

You will find the missionary strength under each religion.

Was that in EUIV files or the mod file (which i can't for some reason find lol)
In the mod files. Documents\Paradox Interactive\Europa Universalis IV\mod\ExtendedTimeline\common\religions\et_religion.txt
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Paillan Nov 11, 2015 @ 4:44pm 
I said the same about secularism. But actually, the religion shouldn't be named securalism, as secularism only means separation of state and church. In no terms it means religious tolerance (although most times it does) there fore it should be called "multi religious" religion instead.
Secular can have royal marriage, and can have PU, I now because in most of my games Andora has PU with France, in modern days, both being republics AND secular. The bugs are for real ._.
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Firesoul Nov 14, 2015 @ 12:31am 
Originally posted by marvelfannumber1:
Well you can't, because in 2 A.D there is still christianity, which doesn't make any sense because at that point Jesus would be 2 years old. Shouldn't those provinces be jewish until ca. 30 A.D?
9 years old actually since our dating system isn't accurate, but yes they should
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Paillan Nov 14, 2015 @ 4:11am 
Actually no one is quite sure when Jesus was born, so go figure.
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