I suggest a chain of events allowing the restoration of the city of Rome, make it a capital and maybe restore its culture
Restoration of Rome
Is Byzantine Empire
Owns Rome (Does not have to be a core province)
After whatever year Justinian lost control of it +100
Does not have "City of Rome restored"
MTTH 12 months

Option 1:
"Rome was built in a day for a reason"
Gain 5 development in each category
Lose 0.1 yearly income
Rome gets "Development Focus": -25% Development costs +10% Local to MP, Tax and Production.
Gets "City of Rome restored": 2 yearly prestige, 1 yearly legitimacy
Gain flag that prevents this event from ever happening again and allows for other events down the chain to happen

Option 2
"We canot afford it and must leave it for later"
Adds a flag that prevents the even from happening again and that flag gets removed 12 months later so it can happen again (pss hidden events)

Option 3 (If Ruler has Architectual Visionary trait)
"We will make Rome great again"
10 dev in each category
Lose 0.5 income
And the rest

Will suggest the others when I bother

PS what are the event id's for the Salic Monarchy Sons and schmons

Originally posted by BetterBite:

PS what are the event id's for the Salic Monarchy Sons and schmons

New son: et_feudal.7
Death of a son: et_feudal.8

I don't know if I agree with that Rome event. It makes sense if your ruler is an architectural visionary I guess, but when Justinian recaptured Rome the city was ruined. Half the population was gone, the city was entirely depopulated twice, floods from the Tiber ruined many buildings and swamps started appearing which caused Malaria.

Ironically the reconquest of Rome by the Empire was what ruined the city for almost a millenium. There were no massive construction projects undertaken in Rome by the Empire at this time. Only a few churches, likely funded by the Pope.

Originally posted by marvelfannumber1:

I don't know if I agree with that Rome event. It makes sense if your ruler is an architectural visionary I guess, but when Justinian recaptured Rome the city was ruined. Half the population was gone, the city was entirely depopulated twice, floods from the Tiber ruined many buildings and swamps started appearing which caused Malaria.

Ironically the reconquest of Rome by the Empire was what ruined the city for almost a millenium. There were no massive construction projects undertaken in Rome by the Empire at this time. Only a few churches, likely funded by the Pope.

Exactly, it was also seen as strategically a bad decision to have the capital in Rome. The capital was moved to Byzantium while Rome was still in Roman hands. The WRE had its capital in Ravenna, there was just no way the capital was moving back to Rome, no-one wanted it to.

Yeah, I probably won't add that one. Rome was indeed quite ruined at the time and it would not have made that much sense for Byzantium to move their capital there. Besides, the player can already do that with the existing mechanics if they want to.

Still, I'm happy for getting suggestions for new events and if people don't want to take a risk of wasting their efforts on events I don't want to add, anyone is free to ask whether or not the events they are thinking of would be good.

In general flavor events that are more focused on the narrative on the description than the effects of the options are more likely to get added.

If anyone wants to suggest events for AT (pre-ET timeline) that would also be nice. We're mainly looking for religious flavour, so events about religious celebrations and others for:

Lusitani
Ua Dab
Bimoism
Vedism
Muism
Dao Mau
Shigongism
Benzhuism
Yue (Baiyue)
Etruscan
Zamolxism
Minoan
Scythian
Druidism
Basque
Iberian
Serapis
Punic
Armenian
Illyrian

This is about the East-Asian conflicts and whatifs after the unification of Japan, during the Korean Invasions of Japan. I'll come up with more of this, but this is all for right now.


"The Invasion of China"
Requirements: Japan exists, [controls [most of] provinces of Japan area, is at peace](causes trigger), [dynasty of China] has mandate of heaven, Korea exists

"Our clan has expanded in tremendous amounts, control most of the Japanese islands and claim the rest. Yet, we must not let neither our preparations or ambitions down, for [dynasty of China] will surely aim to take us down after we unify. Korea is a nuisance if we are to fight against the Chinese, but with just the right diplomatic actions, we might be able to have them be our gateway to Mainland China."
Option 1: Well, they are a potential ally... : Korea gets event "Japan requests help in Chinese invasion", Gain national modifier "Ambitions against China" for 5 years (+5% morale, -5% core cost, -5% fabricate claim cost)
Option 2: Forget it, they will never help us. : Lose 100 Diplo points, Gain national modifier "Avoiding Chinese conflict" (+5% fabricate claim cost)
Option 3: Ask the Koreans for help? Nonsense, we will conquer them. : Gain national modifier "Ambitions against Korea" for 3 years (-10% core cost, -5% fabricate claim cost)

"Japan requests help in Chinese invasion"
Requirements: Korea exists, Korea has either good opinions or alliance with China
//Version where Korea has historically close relations with China
Triggered by Japanese event "The Invasion of China"

"We recently have received unspeakable requests from the newly united Japanese; they ask us to support their "invasion" of China. It is infuriating that they demand our help, despite them knowing our relationships to China. Our bureaucrats demand that we refuse and continue or alliance to the Mandate of Heaven. But, some of our subjects report the Japanese are planning to evade the invasion our way if we refuse. The Japanese threat us with outraging demands for the price of peace."
Option 1: "We shall protect and support our Chinese brethren with everything we have." : Japanese get event "Koreans refuse request", Opinion with China +25, Japan -50
Option 2: "Do not open the gates nor support them, but we shall not fire at their boats when they arrive." : Japanese get event "Koreans agree to open borders", Opinion with Japan +10, China -40
Option 3: "It is time for a revolution; we shall fight along the Japanese." : Japanese get event "Koreans agree to help invasion", Chinese get event "Betrayal of Koreans", Opinion with Japan +50, China -200
Option 4(If leader is Charismatic Negotiator): "We can persuade the Japanese to direct their offense somewhere; peace is valuable and joining the conflict will burn us both." : Japanese get event
//Version where Korea has neutral or worse relations with China

"Japan recently has sent us envoys requesting our help in their plans to invade China. We also have experienced countless conflicts with the Chinese, but it is still undecided whether we allow the Japanese to attack China, nevertheless join their offense. This could be a chance for us to surely suppress the Chinese and claim what is rightfully ours, or it could be our undoing."
Option 1: "

"Koreans refuse request"

"The Koreans have refused our polite requests; perhaps their bonding with China could be undone in other ways."
Option 1: "They shall die with the Chinese."
Option 2: "Who do they think we are?"
Gain national modifier "Koreans refuse request"

"Koreans agree to open borders"

"Korea has agreed to let our soldiers march through their lands. Though it is not what we initially intended, we are content they give us access."
Option 1: "We have one less target, for now."
Option 2: "We at least have another route for offense."
(If it is possible, give Japan access to Korean lands)

"Koreans agree to help invasion"

"The plans have been set; the Koreans will assist us as allies against China. We shall send envoys, presents and arquebuses to their lands, and begin fortifying the northern front. This instant, our subjects argue whether we should focus on solidifying the alliance, or preparing the invasion. Either way, we will walk the road to prosper and bring down the Chinese tyrant."
Option 1: "Globally announce the dawn of a new era, and make bonds with our new brothers." : Gain modifier for 10 years "Korean-Japanese alliance" (+10% increase relations), Opinion with Korea +50
Option 2: "Arm the men, we shall see if the Koreans are worthy allies after the war." : Manpower +10000

"The Invasion of Korea"
Requirements: Japan exists, is not at war with Korea or China, has national modifier "Korean refuse request", [controls [important] provinces of Japan area(causes trigger)]
If this happens in the year of 1532, 1592 or 1652, the same event will trigger but in the name of
"The Imjin Wars"

"The Japanese finally are united under the rule of [], after centuries of war and division, but all but peace and stability exists in Japan. The Daimyos and Samurai demand for control, and the Chinese are ever so closer to our doorsteps. The Koreans refused our demands and pushed us too far; perhaps now is the time to divert our warrior's rage onto the peninsula and forge our own road to China."
Option 1: Prepare the ships and arm the men. : Gain casus belli "Invasion of Korea", Gain national modifier for 3 years "Invasion of Korea" (-5% Navy cost, -5% Army maintenance cost), Gain 1 stability, Koreans get event "The Japanese invade!"
Option 2: Now is not the time... Korea will suffer later. : Gain national modifier "Cowarding down" for 3 years(+1 Unrest, -1 yearly prestige)

"The Japanese invade!"
Triggered by Japanese event "The Invasion of Korea"

"The Japanese have finally crossed the line; under their lord [] they declare war and drag their ships across the sea. The Japanese are hardened by centuries of war and conflict, their elite armies are not to be lightly seen. We will seize this threat as an opportunity and crush the Japanese like we always have, united or not."
Option 1: They are nothing more than armed pirates.
Option 2: We have been united for 700 years, and will remain so.
Get national modifier "The Japanese Invasion" for 3 years (if possible, until peace is restored)

"Fortify the southern coast"
Requirements: At war with Japan, has modifier "The Japanese Invasion", controls Gyeongju, Sangju and Jeju
"While our men are prepared to fight to the death, we can spare equipment to fortify the southern coast. Our subjects recommend defending the trade centre of Gyeongju, the tactical point of Sangju or the island of Jeju."
Option 1: We shall fortify our old capital and defend our economy. : Add Bastion in Gyeongyu(2745)
Option 2: Sangju is a key point holding the entrance to our lands, we must keep it safe : Add Bastion in Sangju(736)
Option 3: We must make precautions in the case we have to make a landing, or perhaps retreat. : Add Bastion in Jeju(2741)

"Recall the legendary admiral, Yi Sun Shin"
Requirements: At war with Japan, has modifier "The Japanese Invasion"
"We have made the mistake of sending admiral Yi to exile, and with the nation at crisis, we need a military genius like him. The conservative council is not fond of having him in command, but our navy is in need of his help."
Option 1: "Reinstate him into chief commander of the national navy. He will lead our men into prosperity." : Gain 6/6/6/4 admiral Yi Sun Shin, lose 200 diplomatic power, gain national modifier "Admiral Yi in service" for 5 years (+10% Ship durability, +10% Heavy Ship Combat Ability, -5% Global ship recruit time)
Option 2: "We cannot have him in charge of the navy and cause problems. Put him in charge of land garrisons." : Gain 3/2/4/1 general Yi Sun Shin, lose 100 diplomatic power, Gain national modifier for 5 years "General Yi in service" (+5% Infantry Combat Ability, +5% Morale of armies)
Option 3: "Find somewhere else he can be of use, somewhere he can't cause any more tantrums within the council." : Gain national modifier "Yi Sun Shin in service" for 5 years (-5% Construction costs)
Option 4: "The refute is far too strong. We shall find someone else to lead the navy along the council's requests." : Gain 200 diplomatic power

Originally posted by powerblo0702:

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A few things:
- The vanilla timeline has plenty of flavor as it is. The new events should be focused on getting the added bits of the timeline to the vanilla level of flavor.
- Events can not grant military access.
- Events should not do things like create alliances or declare wars except in some exceptional cases. In general those should be left covered by the diplomacy mechanics of the game.

Originally posted by qweytr:

Originally posted by powerblo0702:

(long text)

A few things:
- The vanilla timeline has plenty of flavor as it is. The new events should be focused on getting the added bits of the timeline to the vanilla level of flavor.
- Events can not grant military access.
- Events should not do things like create alliances or declare wars except in some exceptional cases. In general those should be left covered by the diplomacy mechanics of the game.

Sure, I'll try to get Korean history before 1444, but for that to work "Korea" from 918 to 1392 has to be named Goryeo, the preceding dynasty to Joseon. I'll specify this stuff a bit later.

Originally posted by powerblo0702:

"Korea" from 918 to 1392 has to be named Goryeo, the preceding dynasty to Joseon.

That will not happen.

Originally posted by qweytr:

That will not happen.

Umm.. can I get an explanation? If it's about "no differences between before and after 1392", I'd like to ask you another reason to exclude historical accuracy.

These flavor events are mostly about natural disasters in the Ancient Mediterranean:

Event 1:
Great Fire of Rome

Triggers:
25% chance to tirgger between 60 and 70, is Rome, owns Roma, Roma is the capital.

Description:
"A sudden fire has erupted outside the Circus Maximus, it quickly spread through the narrow, wooden streets of Rome. It has after 7 days of horror engulfed over a quarter of the great Imperial City and left thousands of people homless! What should we do after this disaster?"

Option 1: "Rebuild our sacred capital and give it's people refugee until it has been remade greater than it ever was!"
Loose money, gain 12 prestige, Roma gets +3 tax, +3 production and +3 manpower, get national modifier "costly rebuilding" for 5 years [causes -25% national tax modifier, -15% manpower modifier, national unrest +0.50]

Option 2: "We can't afford this, leave it be and move the court somewhere else!"
Roma loses -5 tax, -5 production and -5 manpower, lose 20 prestige, gain 2.00 unrest, Roma is renamed Latium, capital of Roma is renamed Ostia.

Event 2:
Antonine Plague

Triggers:
Is Rome, has truce with Parthia/Sassanids, year is between 95 and 195, owns Roma, Carthage and Alexandria.

Description:
"Our troops have returned from the barbaric scoudrels in the East. They have however not brought peace, but rather a deadly pest with them!

Option 1: "May the Gods have mercy..."
Lose 1 stability, Roma loses -2 tax, -2 production and -2 manpower Roma, Carthage and Alexandria get provincial modifier "Antonine Plague" for 10 years [causes unrest +2.00, national tax modifier -50%, local trade modifier -50%

Event 3:
Great Earthquake

Triggers:
Owns Morea and Alexandria, year is between 360 and 370.

Description:
"The silence of the Eastern Mediterranean has been disrupted, the earth shakess as the sea suddenly retreats. Before one can observe the danger a giant wave flies over the horizon!
By daybreak dozens of cities have been submerged in water, thousands have died and even the great city of Alexandria has suffered irrepairable damage"

Option 1: "What a disaster!"
Lose 1 stability, Morea and Alexandria lose 3 tax, 3 production and 3 manpower.

Originally posted by qweytr:

Originally posted by BetterBite:

PS what are the event id's for the Salic Monarchy Sons and schmons

New son: et_feudal.7
Death of a son: et_feudal.8

Thanks

Originally posted by powerblo0702:

Originally posted by qweytr:

That will not happen.

Umm.. can I get an explanation? If it's about "no differences between before and after 1392", I'd like to ask you another reason to exclude historical accuracy.

To put it simply, it's because it's that way in vanilla.