hello! I've had a problem with the Holy Roman Empire system. This happened to me playing with Castilla, as well as with the Kingdom of Sicily. I uninstalled the entire mod and reinstalled it to do a clean test, without any sub-adds. It turns out that once the claim is taken and the emperor is defeated or frankfurt is taken, you are not named emperor and you continue to be a pretender. if you also eliminate the emperor faction, the entire holy roman empire system falls. Before this did not happen to me.

The same is happening to me, as France. After having watched a video of someone successfully doing it as Sicily, I think the problem is that the mission is not firing when you get the Pope's notice to be pretender. Completing the mission is how you become emperor--when you either take Frankfurt or kill the old emperor, it's supposed to automatically happen. But I'm not even getting the mission to begin with.

I have played as HRE and when I killed Frederick it just went to his heir to be pretender. I tried as Sicily and I have the same trouble. I get the mission success notice if I take Frankfurt or kill Otto but I am still pretender and in the case where I killed him it went to his heir. Then when I destroyed the last of the HRE or AI did, as I have tried multiple times, then it says I am too late to claim it. One time it broke the HRE panel and another time it just made another faction emperor but not me.

Same problem here. I can't become emperor playing with Sicilians after completing papal mission of conquering Frankfurt. Please fix that bug.

Yea so I think I hit the same snag, at first I got the message from the pope asking if I would like to be nominated as a pretender for the HRE, and in doing so I would automatically declare war on the HRE. I clicked yes, I'm the Kingdom of Scotland FYI, so I steamrolled through England, vassalized Wales because it seems no matter how much I raid their lands they wont openly declare war, and took a boat straight down the thin river leading into Frankfurt. When I got there I got an awesome siege battle with Me as K of S, The Commune of Bologna, Milan and The County of Savoy, vs the HRE it was something like 10300 vs 3300 it was crazy fun, anyways I took it with ease and that was that.

However I'm pretty sure I did it before as England and when I did I got another option in the HRE panel where I could enact laws and gain votes to enact even more laws and My Faction changed from the Kingdom of England to the Holy Roman Empire.

So on my current campaign as the Kingdom of Scotland, the HRE has been dead and gone for about 80 turns and I've just been exterminating most of the Christian factions in order to control all of the electorate states that votes for the emperor.

My plan when I have finished getting all of the states is two things.

I will either Destroy the papal states because I heard on a reddit post that You can reinstate your own pope in his place and remove excommunication status, However to my knowledge I have not been excommunicated but it could possible start a script that will fix the HRE status and return it to me.

Now if that does not work I don't really mind because I will just continue to conquer all the northern lands like my Cyprus and Jerusalem campaign in the east.

Now the second Idea was to destroy all the buildings in Frankfurt, raiding the surrounding area with my armies because I currently do not have any enemies that are closer then 3 provinces, and then allow Frankfurt to rebel and therefore possible remaking the Holy Roman Empire as a returning faction and then reconquering them.

So I will continue with the first plan and if not I will load up a previous save and go with the second.

If anything changes I'll make a post.

"Update"

Sooooooo..... I tried the 1st method and it worked but it backfired.

Basically I've taken 12 electorate states and I think there's only 6 more from what I can see in my campaign. So what I did is I destroyed all my positive public order buildings in Frankfurt lowered the sanitation and food for negative public order buffs and made 5 armies raid the province which got me like -24 public order per turn, sped through a bunch of turns and finally after a rebellion the HRE was reborn.

Now comes the problem, even though I can become emperor, I control 12 states that automatically give me a perm -10 public order penalty across my all my provinces, but I then have to assassinate the emperor with a an agent or I could wait for him to die, then I have to convince the at least 3 of the remaining electorates to make me emperor and then while maintaining the negative public order across all provinces I have to slowly make my way through the laws until I have gained the option to make succession hereditary.

So I fixed it, but it's not what i wanted. So now I'm loading a previous save and I'll go the way of taking out the papal states.

"Update"

Soo it's been a while and I decided to keep going with the initial idea where I revived the holy roman empire.

I built taverns in every settlement along with max sanitation buildings and gibbets everywhere to reduce the corruption value as no one wants to trade with me that hasn't already been trading since the early campaign.

The reason I'm posting is I've managed to control public order and I can only assume because of my faction strength the majority of the electorate states will not declare war on me. Right now I have managed to lower the amount of electors to 6 states and in order to counter the negative effects of territory I gift to my vassal which so far hasn't declared war on me for 30-40 turns.

Now another pretender has risen and managed to take the HRE for himself, even though it still says I am a pretender, So in order to become emperor I need at least one other elector to vote for me.

Basically I am slowly expanding outwards as well as giving the elector states to my vassal in hopes that when every elector has been given to my vassal I will be elected as emperor and since the current emperor does not have any territory within the HRE and is located on the other side of the map I will remain emperor permanently because as long as there are no other electors the only way my vassal, assuming it is still my vassal when I become emperor, can become the HRE is by being a pretender and beating me, which wont happen...

Also, just for fun, I decided to suicide attack the papal states and see if I could replace the pope and I waited 1 turn, however nothing changed except my vassal declared war on me, so did the rest of the electorate states, and I was perm given the Excommunicated status and I guess because there is no pope it is impossible to remove the buff, so I think that strikes out that answer, however I only waited one turn so maybe you have to hold it for a whole year..

I may try it out later and make an update but it seems that as long as the HRE has one settlement and he has not been excommunicated none of the electors will take Frankfurt an which in terms of passing laws is detrimental to the campaign if you want to become the HRE.

One more thing, just a side note, I'm not sure if it is correct but it does not seem like you can assassinate the HRE emperor to force an election, I assassinated the only HRE army general like 7-8 times and new generals would keep spawning and none of them were the emperor.

My theory to possibly force an election that way would be to siege the last settlement and assuming the emperor is the governor, you could kill him in battle and then quit when it says the enemy general has fallen, and that may lead to an election, seems like a lot of work for a "what if" but I may try it.

Had this bug 2 days ago playing as Sicily, took Frankfurt and killed Otto, didn´t work out to becoem the new leader of HRE. Any Informaton how to fix this, change order of mods maybe?

I played as Bohemia, declared war to HRE, took Frankfurt as they were fighting in Denmark, then I took Westphalia. But HRE meanwhile took Mecklenburg. But then they were conquered by Poland which in turn meant HRE stopped existing and emperor was killed. I lost Frankfurt to Bavaria without fight or there was no decision to make. I noticed in the event long that new empror was appointed. Just event and bam - province gone. Feels stupid if you cannot prevent it. It's not actually Bavaria but new HRE faction with Bavaria flag.

Originally posted by jwinter:

I played as Bohemia, declared war to HRE, took Frankfurt as they were fighting in Denmark, then I took Westphalia. But HRE meanwhile took Mecklenburg. But then they were conquered by Poland which in turn meant HRE stopped existing and emperor was killed. I lost Frankfurt to Bavaria without fight or there was no decision to make. I noticed in the event long that new empror was appointed. Just event and bam - province gone. Feels stupid if you cannot prevent it. It's not actually Bavaria but new HRE faction with Bavaria flag.

Took Frankfurt again as it was not defended and the army was marching south. Killed the army and as I did it. Frankfurt is again new HRE with Verona flag.

Not exactly the same problem you friends are having but, playing as the Duchy of Brabant, I can't upgrade the status from Duchy to Kingdom. I've noticed that once you get to turn 8, the objective of "Found a Kingdom" just dissapears, leaving only the objectives of "Found an Empire" and "Ask the Pope for money". I've also done a blitzkrieg the neighbouring Flanders and England, securing 4 regions, which allows you to Found a Kingdom, before turn 8, but even so, the option just dissapears. This makes me really mad, cause I now own 12 regions, almost the entirety of France and England and one region in the HRE territory, and I'm still a mere Duchy. Has someone had the same problem, or is it that just all HRE factions are broken or still doesn't work as intended?