Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

[OUTDATED] Jayu - Another Korean Overhaul Mod
fanculo  [developer] Jul 6, 2018 @ 11:25pm
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nicovallejos Jul 8, 2018 @ 8:06pm 
Another Korea mod. Good work.

Since HOI4 has a DLC 'Waking the Tiger' and because of the changes in the Japanese focus tree, Should Japan finishes the focus 'Pre-emptive coup' in the 'Strenghten the Civilian Government' part of Japan's focus tree, that means Korea becomes free.

On the other hand, should China succeeded in driving the Japanese out of China (particularly if they conquered Mengkukuo and Manchukuo) and are advancing to Korea, the event fires. That first choice is that one resulted in Korea becoming free as well as resulting in white peace between Japan and China (Chinese United Front).

Note this will result in the focus 'Commit to Korean Independence' bypassed in China's focus tree, particularly the 'Invite the Foreign Investors' part (also shared with Communist China and Manchukuo)
AznMagicalGamer Jul 9, 2018 @ 9:22pm 
I don't know, but I feel like the Fascists in Korea shouldn't be Monarchists, rather I feel like people like Park Chung-hee would be the closest Korea ever had to a real Fascist. Perhaps have Park Chung-hee come back to Korea and establish an Authoritarian Korean Republic under Fascism or something along the lines. Whereas I think Monarchists should be Non-Aligned, plus the Monarchy wasn't too popular with the people having been seen as selling out Korea to Japan even though the Monarchy had really no choice.

Plus Park Chung-hee was young serving in the Manchukuo Army at the time, though I can assume something happens in the Focus, where Korean Officers serving in the Manchukuo and Japanese Army stage a Fascist Coup and establish a Republic of Korea under Fascist Rule.
Last edited by AznMagicalGamer; Jul 9, 2018 @ 9:27pm
fanculo  [developer] Jul 10, 2018 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by nicovallejos:
Another Korea mod. Good work.

Since HOI4 has a DLC 'Waking the Tiger' and because of the changes in the Japanese focus tree, Should Japan finishes the focus 'Pre-emptive coup' in the 'Strenghten the Civilian Government' part of Japan's focus tree, that means Korea becomes free.

On the other hand, should China succeeded in driving the Japanese out of China (particularly if they conquered Mengkukuo and Manchukuo) and are advancing to Korea, the event fires. That first choice is that one resulted in Korea becoming free as well as resulting in white peace between Japan and China (Chinese United Front).

Note this will result in the focus 'Commit to Korean Independence' bypassed in China's focus tree, particularly the 'Invite the Foreign Investors' part (also shared with Communist China and Manchukuo)

I didn't even think about compatibility with the new WtT trees! Thanks for the reminder, I was thinking of reworking the way the initial events fired so I guess this is my excuse to do so.


Originally posted by AznMagicalGamer:
I don't know, but I feel like the Fascists in Korea shouldn't be Monarchists, rather I feel like people like Park Chung-hee would be the closest Korea ever had to a real Fascist. Perhaps have Park Chung-hee come back to Korea and establish an Authoritarian Korean Republic under Fascism or something along the lines. Whereas I think Monarchists should be Non-Aligned, plus the Monarchy wasn't too popular with the people having been seen as selling out Korea to Japan even though the Monarchy had really no choice.

Plus Park Chung-hee was young serving in the Manchukuo Army at the time, though I can assume something happens in the Focus, where Korean Officers serving in the Manchukuo and Japanese Army stage a Fascist Coup and establish a Republic of Korea under Fascist Rule.

I completely agree with you. The Monarchists being fascist are kind of a remnant of the old version of the mod. I also imagined them to be more despotic/paternal autocrat that fascist (actually one of the first versions of the mod had a unique sub-ideology for them) and I didn't really want to restrict them by placing them under neutrality as it would be to similar to the current neutrality/constitutional monarchy route.

I have thought about putting Park Chung-hee in the mod but considering he didn’t enter the Manchukuo Imperial Army until 44 and was only 19 at the games start I decided not to.
Andrestadaa Jul 20, 2018 @ 1:49pm 
Here's some suggestions, first of all, really love the mod :)

As I said in the comment, Cho Man-sik is probably not the best choice for the leader of the North Korea. While he was intially considered as the leader by the Soviet in the early stage of occupation, Communist, he was not. Park Hon-yong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pak_Hon-yong, I think is a much better choice.

Monarchs not being a fascist is a good point as well. Yi Un was not really charismatic, nor did he had much of an initiative to become a autocratic ruler. Yi Beom-seok, who you included as a general, is a prime candidate for a facist (-esque) military dictator. The motto for the organisation he created in 1945, the "Korean National Youth Corps" were "Nation First, (Korean) Minjok (Race-nation) First", and was criticized as "Yi Beom-seok Jugend". He was a huge ally of Rhee Syng-man as well, and was instrumental in creation of "Ilminism" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilminism with his friend, An Ho-sang.

Other than him, Kim Koo wouldn't be too out of place of being an authoritarian leader as well. He despised communists/ socialists and was accused of being an authoritarian. He personally admired Mussolini but thought he made a bad choice by allying himself with Hitler. Futhermore, he was *probably* responsible for string of assassinations of left-wing figures post-independence. Not exactly a fuzzy democratic consensus figure as modern Koreans believe him to be. Considering the period, someone like Kim Kyu-sik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Kyu-sik, or Lyuh Woon-hyung, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyuh_Woon-hyung, or, Ahn Chang-ho, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahn_Changho, might be more applicable for the democratic leader tree.

Finally, on the Communist side, I imagine there would be a conflict between communists who aligned themselves with the Chinese Communists and those backed by the Soviets. Also, substantial influence anarchists had on this period is not that well researched but interesting avenue to get into. Someone like Kim Won-bong, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Won-bong, an anarchist and generally considered to have been an ally of the Chinese Communists would be an interesting figure to look into, and obviously Park Hon-yong is a huge figure espousing more orthodox Marxist-Leninism in this period. Kim Il-sung was a complete non-entity in the Korean communist movement until 1945.
Last edited by Andrestadaa; Jul 20, 2018 @ 1:50pm
AznMagicalGamer Aug 19, 2018 @ 5:32pm 
Also another idea, how about a reskin of units?
Wonderful job, just so you know. I've got a few proposals in mind.

- Since Yi Un is already portrayed as the main fascist path, I don't think Rhee should be given a buff to fascist support. While Rhee was viciously authoritarian and a staunch anti-communist, his regime was nowhere on the levels of actual fascism.

- While the Personality Cult for Rhee is a really nice touch, it seems he actually didn't have that. I'd suggest handing that to Kim Il-sung in future. Instead, how about a spirit that gives a daily, giant debuff to communist support?

- I'd like to see more foreign policy options for all the leaders. If you're communist, reach out to the USSR. If you're fascist, will you back the Axis, or do the unthinkable and - gasp! - work with Japan? If you're Rhee, you could reach out to China, as Chiang is a proud supporter of Korean independence, or Rhee's favorite nation, the USA, for investment and military aid. If you're Kim, you could also favor the USA, but more as a fellow democratic nation.

- Division names in Korean would be very welcome.

- As said before, maybe a unit reskin and equipment names? The Korean Liberation Army dressed like the Nationalist Chinese army, and presumably used mainly Chinese weapons. The Korean War look for North and South Korea does have its appeal, too.
Last edited by The Wild West Pyro; Jan 21, 2019 @ 2:18pm
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