Project Zomboid

Project Zomboid

More Traits
The instant death glitch
After a long time of not using More Traits, I started up a single player run and thought "Huh, I wonder why I never used this mod again. Let's try it, it's got some cool Traits".
I survived for well over a year with zero injuries other than those from falling while running a fence and one time getting a laceration from falling off a roof.
Then I was reminded why I should NEVER use this mod ever again.
One zombie landed a frontal attack which my character was pushing off and boom. The infamous More Traits instadeath happened.

I'll add the godmode bug this mod gives players in Multiplayer. The Indefatigable Trait turns your character both invisible and unkillable when it's triggered, so have fun on any server that's silly enough to have this mod enabled on it.

EDIT: Use More Simple Traits instead of this one. It's got some really nice Traits and none of them are game breaking.
最近の変更は★Rainmaker★が行いました; 2024年5月7日 23時49分
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♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is that what has been killing me? Is there any way to prevent it?
Not that I know of. There are apparently some fixes to this mod in the workshop somewhere, or at least there used to be, but I've personally deleted this thing from my mod list due to A) the game breaking bugs and B) this mod being now fully abandoned and not updated.
xapti 2024年5月10日 14時33分 
That bug is due to removing zombie infection without the infection timer being reset. (then the next time you get infection it results in instant zombification instead of normal slow build up, at least as long as it has been a few days since you were previously infected) I thought that More Traits fixed that bug. Are you sure you didn't use debug mode or a cheat mod to remove the zombie infection yourself?
Omni 2024年5月19日 17時01分 
Rainmaker have you tried the patch for superimmune?
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★Rainmaker★ の投稿を引用:
B) this mod being now fully abandoned and not updated.
it just updated on 25 May though.
for anyone else: does the glitch happen from specific traits or randomly from any zombie attack?
Wolfnut88 の投稿を引用:
★Rainmaker★ の投稿を引用:
B) this mod being now fully abandoned and not updated.
it just updated on 25 May though.
for anyone else: does the glitch happen from specific traits or randomly from any zombie attack?
The sudden death error hasn't gone away, it still kills players :(
xapti の投稿を引用:
That bug is due to removing zombie infection without the infection timer being reset. (then the next time you get infection it results in instant zombification instead of normal slow build up, at least as long as it has been a few days since you were previously infected) I thought that More Traits fixed that bug. Are you sure you didn't use debug mode or a cheat mod to remove the zombie infection yourself?

So just to confirm if the bug only happens when a player is bitten, then the player is going to be a zombie soon anyways, so isn't the run over regardless? So even if the bug occurs, I'm not seeing much of an issue, except losing out on the slow zombification time.
最近の変更はReMeDyが行いました; 2024年6月7日 7時46分
ReMeDy の投稿を引用:
xapti の投稿を引用:
That bug is due to removing zombie infection without the infection timer being reset. (then the next time you get infection it results in instant zombification instead of normal slow build up, at least as long as it has been a few days since you were previously infected) I thought that More Traits fixed that bug. Are you sure you didn't use debug mode or a cheat mod to remove the zombie infection yourself?

So just to confirm if the bug only happens when a player is bitten, then the player is going to be a zombie soon anyways, so isn't the run over regardless? So even if the bug occurs, I'm not seeing much of an issue, except losing out on the slow zombification time.
The issue I see is there is a trait that let's you get bitten but won't actually let you get infected. You'll just be really sick for a long time (according to the trait description). One of my friends had the trait, got bit, and died within moments of being bit even though he wasn't bleeding out or in danger. He's corpse also didn't reanimate. Which is why I asked if the instant death is only for a specific trait or random?
xapti 2024年6月13日 10時50分 
ReMeDy の投稿を引用:
So just to confirm if the bug only happens when a player is bitten, then the player is going to be a zombie soon anyways, so isn't the run over regardless? So even if the bug occurs, I'm not seeing much of an issue, except losing out on the slow zombification time.
Scratches can also infect with zombie virus, but yes if a person was using no cure mods their character would indeed have been a dead-man-walking anyway.

But if using a cure mod then it is a problem since it would mean not getting a chance to cure it.



Wolfnut88 の投稿を引用:
The issue I see is there is a trait that let's you get bitten but won't actually let you get infected.
No that's not at all the issue, because bites are not special. Unless by "bite" you meant "any attack that infected the character"

Wolfnut88 の投稿を引用:
One of my friends had the trait, got bit, and died within moments of being bit even though he wasn't bleeding out or in danger. He's corpse also didn't reanimate. Which is why I asked if the instant death is only for a specific trait or random?
What trait, superimmune? He would have certainly been bleeding though, how does he know that bleeding couldn't have been the cause of death? As far as I know the instant death bug is due to zombie infection, and having zombie infection means raising as a zombie.

I suspect that the friend just wasn't paying attention to bleeding and/or corpse sickness moodles, and/or took some other trait (like Alcoholic from Dynamic Traits), or Anemic or such.



|DT| Striker の投稿を引用:
The sudden death error hasn't gone away, it still kills players :(
Are you referring to More Traits? If-so what makes you say that? What are the specifics around an instant death, if you had one happen?

There has always been an instant death bug caused by removing zinfection without clearing the zinfection timer. As far as I know the popular mods like More Traits are not causing that bug [at least anymore]. Instead the likely culprit if from using the debug/admin/cheat menu to remove infection, which does not properly remove it. The next time a character gets infected they will instantly die as long as enough time has past since the previous zinfection.
最近の変更はxaptiが行いました; 2024年6月13日 10時51分
xapti 2024年6月13日 10時54分 
Omni の投稿を引用:
Rainmaker have you tried the patch for superimmune?
curepatchmoretraits
3113278401
This is unrelated. This just makes it so that the cure works on superimmune artificial infection sickness; it wouldn't fix any bugs. That said I think there are not any bugs with More Traits causing zombies to instakill either.
Wolfnut88 の投稿を引用:
The issue I see is there is a trait that let's you get bitten but won't actually let you get infected.
xapti の投稿を引用:
No that's not at all the issue, because bites are not special. Unless by "bite" you meant "any attack that infected the character"

"The issue I see is there is a trait that let's you get bitten/scratched but doesn't actually lead to a zombie infection." hopefully it is a bit clearer now. I couldn't remember the trait name at the time but I was talking about "superimmune" trait.




Wolfnut88 の投稿を引用:
One of my friends had the trait, got bit, and died within moments of being bit even though he wasn't bleeding out or in danger. He's corpse also didn't reanimate. Which is why I asked if the instant death is only for a specific trait or random?
What trait, superimmune? He would have certainly been bleeding though, how does he know that bleeding couldn't have been the cause of death? As far as I know the instant death bug is due to zombie infection, and having zombie infection means raising as a zombie.

xapti の投稿を引用:
I suspect that the friend just wasn't paying attention to bleeding and/or corpse sickness moodles, and/or took some other trait (like Alcoholic from Dynamic Traits), or Anemic or such.

He had superimmune with thick blooded. One zombie snuck up on him near our base and he got bit in the arm. after cleaning and bandaging, he promptly died from who knows what. I suspect superimmune did work to prevent zombification but he had no other injuries and definitely didn't bleed out as his corpse had the bandage on it's arm when I showed up. unfortunately there's no way to do an autopsy to confirm exactly what killed him.




|DT| Striker の投稿を引用:
The sudden death error hasn't gone away, it still kills players :(
xapti の投稿を引用:
Are you referring to More Traits? If-so what makes you say that? What are the specifics around an instant death, if you had one happen?

xapti の投稿を引用:
There has always been an instant death bug caused by removing zinfection without clearing the zinfection timer. As far as I know the popular mods like More Traits are not causing that bug [at least anymore]. Instead the likely culprit if from using the debug/admin/cheat menu to remove infection, which does not properly remove it. The next time a character gets infected they will instantly die as long as enough time has past since the previous zinfection.

This still wouldn't explain my scenario where we were not using debug/admin/cheat menus. Regardless, death is part of the gameplay and I've told him many times to not grow attached to characters he makes, yet he is determined to prove he can survive with one character and spends all his time improving that character only to die in the dumbest of ways.
Rokko 2024年12月28日 20時27分 
★Rainmaker★ の投稿を引用:
After a long time of not using More Traits, I started up a single player run and thought "Huh, I wonder why I never used this mod again. Let's try it, it's got some cool Traits".
I survived for well over a year with zero injuries other than those from falling while running a fence and one time getting a laceration from falling off a roof.
Then I was reminded why I should NEVER use this mod ever again.
One zombie landed a frontal attack which my character was pushing off and boom. The infamous More Traits instadeath happened.

I'll add the godmode bug this mod gives players in Multiplayer. The Indefatigable Trait turns your character both invisible and unkillable when it's triggered, so have fun on any server that's silly enough to have this mod enabled on it.

instant death & invisible and unkillable still an issue or has that been fixed?
Instant death is still an issue, no specific traits were used, it was purely random.
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