That sounds like the kind of behaviour that would generate an error message. Check out the log with dev mode on. Also probably a mod conflict

they seem to just move around then go to like a chair or any recreation for 1 second then stop

Cool

I reinstalled some mods and use Rimpy now and it seems to work fine. Ocasioanlly some Caravsn start fighting but they dont lose mood anymore if they dont recreate. Prisoner seem to work perfectly fine. This is the mod i needed for my reeducation camp - thank you

You could try way better romance instead.

Yea i don't know why it applies to the caravans either. I guess its a weird mod interaction. They do have acces to recreation but they dont use it. They get depressed die and leav all their stuff, which then inflates my wealth.. I disabled the mod for now until i figured something out.

Idk about that. Maybe let them access some recreation. Not that it should apply to caravans?

Hey so i was searching for any options to tweak the mod and i didnt find any. Since i got this mod Caravsn from other nations will frequentrly just wander around sadly because they're recreation starved. Im not sure if this is a weird interaction but i would love to apply this mod realy only to prisoners and maybe slaves

Thank you in advance

@Noranum you can make a further away rec room from the prison but making zones and deleting the spot of joy object and their sit spot are the best solution.

No idea for anything else than zones. What problem would keeping your pawns out of prison be anywaay

Hello, I just wanted to know if there is some way to stop my pawns from going into the prison's rec room and using/blocking the stuff I put there? Beside allowed areas that is, since these would create just more trouble than solveing it. For some reason I don't like having my pawns mixing up with the enemy, especially not when these allways try to convert/flirt with them or start fights.

but yes-.

@McLets only if you shut everything with doors.

I would highly recommend to just have a open prison instead of all those rooms and adding more bloat to your modlist.

If they all in the same room recreationg they all gonne break out at once too, no matter if their cells are individually locked.

Question. To have prisoner rec rooms, do I need a mod like Prison Commons?

@supressor666 that is the wrong report.

Its a duplicate report. You need to copy the first error report to github. This wont be of any use.

Reproduce the bug and copy the first original error message.
This states to be a duplicate and is missing al vital information.

new bug, i get spammed with red errors even after using devmode to destroy ALL pawn
https://pastebin.com/hygnQxxg

@Wish Granter I make a patch for this bug, https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3310879056

@Demopan This bug is actually because if the pawn generated is not player-controled, they are not applied a pawn.reading property. So when you add an amusement bar, you can use a vanilla method to fix this, with a harmony patch.
I am trying to fix it, and already fixed in my build, just need some check.
The point is using a vanilla method
```C#
pawn.reading = new Pawn_ReadingTracker(pawn);
```

Yeah, hope they can do something, because I cant imagine anything I could do. Guess things arent planned around prisoners being able to do recreation when they usually dont

https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/ed0187b36f14cb4bc76acd4293cfdd85
Here is the hugslib log.

I have reported this issue also the VE team via their reporting tool.

Hi there, I just wanted to report this mod is "incompatible" with VE Books.

Ive noticed prisoners attempting to recreate using books but it causes a endless red error spam via console pausing the game.

Ive tested it by picking up the book, immidantely stopping it
While the error spam was ongoing I deleted the prisoner and it immidantely stopped too.

Colonists do not produce this.



I did test that this is a map wide error. Sadly it is no fix to enclose the books in another room, they somehow still attempting to read it. As soon as the prisoners are sleepy, unc. or dead/ deleted the error immidantely stops and wont ever occur until they actively searching for _another_ type of recreation because they bored.
Storing books in the prison cell sadly does not fix it either.

Getting error spam when using this. I suspect it's a conflict with Vanilla Books Expanded.

Way better romance, another mod that also happens to do this thing (And not just)

@Demopan
This mod seems to work fine for me. But out of curiosity, what is WBR?

Same answer as everyone else. This lets prisoners recreate like colonists do. If any mod messes with recreation, they need to make their own exceptions for prisoners. Or you could get WBR instead since it probably does it better (I dunno im just a rookie modder)

Same as some of the others are stating. Rec doesnt seem to work for my prisoners. Game keeps throwing a joy error.

Well that doesnt tell us anything.

I believe there are incompatible mods with this because they won't touch any recreation I put in the cell. I am doing some reshuffling but got a number of mods so i'm trying a number of combinations :)

@Microsoft Excel: How can I use that code to allow a prisoner to read normal books to rain research?

Thanks

Cool

@Lucas Edwards
When prisoners attempt to read a book, it tries to access their (uninitialized) reading policy, causing an error. That'd be why they don't read - and also why I keep getting that error.

Unfortunately it requires an assembly mod or Ludeon to take this situation into account. Here's (the source for) a harmony patch that seems to be working:
https://pastebin.com/Xtbm7x2p

I dunno, maybe the books dont operate on vanilla recreation

I do believe I have found a bug. The mod does not take books into account as recreation items. I am using another mod which adds propaganda books, and the prisoners refuse to read them. I am not certain if its this mod or not, all I know is they don't want to read.

As I said in below comment, It works fine with 1.5, though I cant update the tags myself because I forgot how to update as contributor (And if you even can do it)

I hope it does, I know it's supposed to be a prison but even a prison should have a common room and yard. I just want to recreate Prison Architect in Rimworld ;) Thanks for making the mod, I really hope it can be update to 1.5 as it just makes sense.

Is this going to be getting a 1.5 update by chance?

Sounds like a combat AI issue, might be touching something. Dunno why would it be touching prisoner joy though. Or maybe it conflicts by the way of something thats outside my knowledge

This gives me exceptions when used in 1.5 with Combat AI

good!!

Still compatible with 1.5 as far as I know. 1.5 tag will probably be added sometime in the future

I didnt add anything new, just enabled recreation need in prisoners which is disabled in vanilla. Whatever they do or not do is a game limitation. Make sure they got access to stuff, their policies let them do stuff (Can prisoners even use drugs?)

I made a prison with all the recreation I could give the prisoners. they wouldn't use the psychite tea I gave them and would constantly only do solitary and social recreation only no tv no poker no pool
is there a mechanic I am missing or is this bugged?

Aint no bug, you just need to not let them out. Make sure their areas are properly assigned and maybe use locks mod.

theres a bug where prisoners will leave their cells to stargaze/cloudwatch

git?

Someones watched too much hollywood huh? Maybe max security prisons may have that, but most prisons are tame and have plenty recreation in them. And the devs likely done this to simplify prisoner keeping. After all, they do have significantly less needs than colony pawns do.

I think the reason base game doesn't have this is because in real life and movies and such prisoners don't tend to have chess boards in their cells and are 90% of the time shown lazing about or writing on walls and such, though I do think its funny their response to that was to just remove prisoner's need to ever experience joy ever

@fantigle I've had prisoners for like 70 days in game just because they are my religion. I installed this to have them do stuff. By now, i think they understand i respect them somewhat. some are friends with my warden. theyve seen what we do to non believers. they eat the human meat... but theyre still my little toys and cant join.

Too bad thats not how the game works but yeah I agree