@Leo I can't really 'seperate the changes' because intimacy reimplements lovin'. that would require a full rewrite of the ideology stuff to work with vanilla lovin' instead
@AL3RCE a slider would be possible but the problem is that, even right now, the intimacy need is working with *very* small numbers. in the backend, the 'daily % decay' is actually a per tick decay value and they're already quite small, one of the numbers for example is '0.0003'
adding another zero and making the numbers any smaller, or adding a slider which can result in very elaborate values like 0.0002874 etc. just causes more issues that it solves. so buttons only for now

unironically a required mod for me at this point, makes differences between ideology's beliefs in partnership far more felt ^^

Hi, would you consider separating the ideology precept content into a new mod, for those that are only interested in that? Thank you for the mod!

Hi turkler goty mod! could we get a slider for intimacy need decay rate ?

I see I didn't even know that mod existed so thank you for that and your own work on this mod!

@Vanguard I believe the developer of the Despicable mod is working on that, and they actually have full Intimacy integration

is there a possibility for an addition or sub mod that allows pawns to offer themselves to visitor or guests for profits? as either an addition with hospitality or just on its own.

@RestoredStar8 no. not only does it overlap with gender works with its genes, it also overlaps with this mod's post-birth refractory period feature

Hi, is Alternate Fertility considered compatible?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3250386053

Metalhorrors gonna go Crazy with this one. I can't wait :)

Okay, I see my issue. My ideoligion was set to "free". I choose the default vanilla ideoligion and didn't know that specific precept was tweaked by this mod. Deleting my comment.

Yeah fair enough

@Agent Washington no I'm not adding bestiality, go away

Okay so here me out. Since Pawns can initiate lovin with mechanoids, would you ever consider adding the ability for Pawns to do it with insectoids or is that pushing it?

ive never used rjw because i always felt it was waaaayyy too over the top. this is way better. thanks

@Dream that's apparently intentional

there is a little incompatibility with the highmate expand mod, the initiate lovin will cause break up even when I set spouse to be unlimited and partner only in physical love, and those 3 pawns are lovers.

Finally. tasteful gooning!

Oh so that's how it works! Got it, ty. Makes sense

@MEAL nudists, and pawns who believe in ideologies that dictate no clothes for their gender, will indeed just do lovin' whenever and wherever. most other colonists care about decency and will seek their bedrooms.
you can also schedule pawns to work if you don't want them to do lovin' at any moment

Finally, a light alternative to the forbidden mod that adds this kind of romance storytelling without all of the excessive fetishy clutter.

Thank you for making this, I started a new playthrough with this and so far it's been a great addition, same with the Gender Works mod. One thing I'm noticing is that if colonists are far away from the base and they agree on, you know, they end up going all the way back to the bed spot. It could be because I'm in the early game and tribal start too, so I don't have a big home area and rely on hunting a lot, but I think it would be good if they could just get on with it in the forest and move on lol. Especially if a "seducing" pawn has lower movement speed than the "seduced", then it could take several (in-game) hours for them to bang because first the pawn needed to catch up and then they needed to go back to the base. It's a niche case but I saw that happen several times now.

@agadii
>sets phyiscal love to be free
>physical love is free
>complains
many such cases

bro i got my pawns in polygamy sh*t, there is only one guy who is lovin' with every woman in the colony, however he's married one lol

A new update for Intimacy is now out! This update seperates the lactation hediff from the refractory period of a mother.
Changelog:

The refractory period after a pawn gives birth is now handled seperately from the lactation hediff.
Added a new gene called ''No refractory period'' which, as you may have guessed, makes it so the pawn does not experience a refractory period after giving birth.
Fixed a small typo in one of the gene strings.
Some other minor fixes.

@Matstar I can't replicate your issue. make a report in the discord, I'm going to write it off as a you issue otherwise
@Clockwork The Painfully Ok no it's not

any way to increase the amount of intimacy gained from socialising? It seems the only way to be above 0% intimacy is for everyone to constantly be banging

@PantherCat64 no but I might introduce a similar option to trigger seduction myself
@Matstar huh, must be an oversight on my end. I'll take a look
@Coffe Toffee Lo-Fi pawns can only do lovin' during Anything and Recreation schedules. this is consistent with vanilla needs like recreation. assign your pawns to different schedules, or force the jobs, if you don't want them to do lovin'

@turkler I'm sorry I didn't know what mod adds human egg laying v_v I wasn't trying to complain at you or ask you to fix it or anything I just noticed it and removing this mod fixed the problem in case anyone else has the same thing

Even though two pawns are in a lover relationship, attempting to lovin' inflicts the "Lustful Act" debuff. ideology precept physical love is set to "Partner Only." What's wrong with that?

Its a mod that makes sense. Makes the world you build more alive without going to extremes. I have a question though. Mpawns go to the anima tree to meditate and raise their focus, one of them got interrupted by their significant other for some fun. A raid was about to start and I had to interrupt them (sad I know) Is there a way for lovin' to raise psycast focus? Would be amazing for hedonistic ideologies and some of their celebrations too.

So pawn will drop anything they are doing to get some love, including transfering the devourer to its new cell. It didnt end very well. Not complaining though, it is kinda funny

@mirvra i think you have a mod conflict. I have never seen that issue and im running a brutal tribal solo.

So uh, question: Is the intimacy need balanced based on industrial tech level factions or something?

Because I'm doing a progression: core run, and during the neolithic and tribal eras I was having trouble getting intimacy on my pawns above 0%

Unless they were regularly taking someone to bed their intimacy need was basically stuck around 0% due to them gaining TINY amounts of intimacy (like 1-2%) from random social talks or during rituals, but then losing 16% per day. And that's with me having them set to like 5 hours of recreation, and 2-3 hours of meditation as a group around an Anima tree.


Am just curious if either I just have a mod somewhere that breaks something, or if the intimacy need itself was balanced with the assumption that pawns would have access to a comms console?

Can I have a option to still use way better romances hook up system? I love how much this expands upon things, but man, sometimes I just need for my pawns to MOVE IT ALONG SO THEY CAN BE ROMANCED!
It gets a tad annoying. Plus , how else am I supposed to use my colonists to make guests happier during their stay if I don't get that option?

Best mod frfr

Oh gosh thank you so much for the patch !! I didn't want to make a request, because I don't really know how challenging it is to make patches, and I know you had a tutorial for them so I figured since there's only gonna be single digit users of the ferrex mod with Intimacy, I didn't wanna bother. I've just been playing with my null critters and watching them enjoy life. I very very appreciate the work you put in for me and at least one other person.

I eagerly await such a development. XD

@hhoferitza those who know

I absolutely love this mod, quick question though I see that it adds a pregnant hediff for mechanoids but it never gets applied only realized it existed through debug and when force applied it doesn't "stick" so to speak. Is this a scrapped feature or something to look forward to in the future?

actually you seem nice so I went ahead and patched that ferrex race mod for you. you can thank me later

@Tahu! you probably didn't notice the issue because the issue was resolved in about 12 hours. steam usually doesn't update mods immediately so it's only the unlucky few who got a bad copy shipped before I fixed the issue
for your har mod - as I've said in the compatibility matters page, custom bodies added by har mods will be patches on a first come, first serve basis. make a report in the discord if you'd like any specific races patched

Overall, very nice alternative to RJW stuff, even if it doesn't do everything I want from it (I have over 300 mods, so take what I say with a grain of salt). Hope Romance on the Rim has a change of heart some day to work with this mod because it'd make this one shine so much more.

Haven't had any issue with the mod personally, yet-- no TPS drains from doing any specific actions, running at max TPS on 1-3x speed (3x speed only when not much is going on). Colony had 10 people, low tech and base was fairly busy nonstop with things going on, raids had no extra impact or anything, with multiple ongoing relationship triangles. It's an alright mod! I wish the dialogue between pawns was more diverse, and wish for more varied interactions in general, but it plays well and doesn't shake up the game much outside of more interactions happening between colonists. My only issue is the submod, Intimacy - Gender Works, turns the only alien race I use (Ferrex Race) into Null sex, so they can not partake in reproduction. Extremely niche issue, but doesn't break the game in a way that makes me want to try and patch it.

@krn̈vr already in gender works

add bionic uterus for males

@Tactical Drongo: Try unsubscribing from the mod, then resubscribing. Sometimes the steam workshop fails to download updates, and the most recent one fixed the performance issues.

I am not sure why, but this mod is a massive drain on my performance, especially if I go to the social tab or the needs tab
Any way to help analyze and look for the problem?

Thanks for your recent hotfix, as a feature request: allow adult pawns to breastfeed other adult pawns to fulfil intimacy needs, add breastmilk item, add breastmilk drinking action, add extract `breastmilk` medical procedure thx

btw I usually don't like to even acknowledge deleted comments here but this one is funny
one pathetic loser (not the hat kid pfp a few comments under) has been persistently trying to start beef in the comments here for the last two days and I just have to say, lol. lmao even.
they come to this mod's page multiple times a day, write a tirade about how I'm dragging things out or whatever - very ironic, I know- and watch their comment disappear, and then return within a few hours to do it all over again. they're in a hell of their own doing, in their own head. bro is shadowboxing