Hey, Call it free trait points, but... could you add a starting negative trait that adds an start percentage to ones bladder/bowels. Start the game fighting to find a toilet or relief spot. Figured its a good challenge trait idea.

"Worked on (and been working on) a big update that updates the code to be much easier to modify. Currently also doing college, a large commission, and working on a video game I'm planning to release on Halloween, so updates will be somewhat slow for a bit. Mod isn't abandoned nor dead"

Reposting from the PREVIEW version

@Nabissimo All of this will be taken into account. Thank you for suggestions. I do definitely plan to overhaul how toilets work though.
@ira Demon There's an "Excretion" tab in the health menu that does that.
@Odoxon Mop and soap
@M1ST0R Thank you, I will when I return to the mod.
@P.G I plan to have some sort of documentation or wiki for the mod eventually, but for now, as you said, they're experimental. Not entirely sure what I'd recommend lol

is there a tierlist of the traits? i dont want to just ask which ones are the free points. i know the creator made the traits with the intent of experimenting and trying them out for different play styles but im new and will get around to doing that. i just would like to know which traits would be the easier ones to take vs the more difficult

How so, @nonstick? I've had no issue with using this mod and B42.11.

as of rn this mod is broken

I have updated the translation. Please add it to the mod.

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/3396456841/595144212454844784/

Hi, how can you clean puddles of urine? I got some around my base and I don't see an option to clean them.

does this still work on earlier versions

was there a option to show status bar of the pee/poop percentage on bottom left of the screen that stays up? i cannot recall if that was a thing or not.

Hello! First of all , I love this mod, i downloaded it because i thought it was funny but it is surprisingly balanced and adds a layer of immersion I enjoy!
I have noticed some bugs Id want to share. I dont know if they are fixed on the preview version, but they are this:
-Toilet paper doesnt get updated, always says 100% even if i have already used it
- sometimes even after i pee i still get groin pain as if my character is still holding it and doesnt go away until i have to pee again.

Furthermore, some sugestions:
- chance to clog toilet , so having a plunger near would be cool.
- the human feces could be dug out the toilet or made in a spacial crafted toilet/outhouse so you can pick it to make fertilizer
- getting the smell debuf when the house doesnt have water acess and you make it in a toilet, because you cannot flush

keep up the great work!

@mohtools The urine puddle is kind of transparent, so might be hard to see. That causes the bad smell. Hopefully not hard to spot when you actually know it's a feature and there lol

Hi, The lingering bad smell doesn't want to go away. I washed all soiled clothes and I also washed myself. I also took off all my clothes and ran far away from base, but still the bad smell is present. Would could be the problem?

I suggest you make it so that you can use other products to clean items as well, I was confused for a while, trying to use cleaning liquid or bleach to clean one pair of pants, but then I realized I can only use soap.

toilet paper finally has a use

how do I wash soiled clothes.

@Monkeyshark what mod might be conflicting it?

i sugest being able to use the feces as compost or fertilizer!

@christianlovescats67 Has to be a mod conflict or something. Nothing else would've been able to break it

The mod won't show up when in-game.

\/ you should have this mf flayed

@MonkeyShark, You could make a trait like piss kink or something and it could allow you to drink unfiltered urine. It could also give you happiness when peeing outside the bathroom and make your character more resistant to the smell of urine. I think it should have to be pretty expensive though.

@SzeroQi Swal Filtering is planned. Unfiltered urine is a fluid in game though, so you can still mix it with pepsi in the meantime lol

@MonkeyShark, Will there ever be an option to drink urine?

@nana It's fixed in the "preview" version. Right now the preview version doesn't have any errors besides one known audio bug, so if you want to go ahead and enable that while I continue testing, that's one way to get around it. Otherwise you'll have to wait a few days for me to push the 0.13.0 update to this version.

defecated pants is annoying,
can we clean dirty pants with just water? because soap in this game is quite rare and runs out quickly. i hope u fix it

Oh...

@Akuma

1. God, I was under the impression it *was* impossible the entire time. Something about trying to make default zomboid's broken ass moodle values affect custom events is so scuffed. Gonna *try* to make it only affect it after 75%.

2. I'll do that first part. I want to make rain clear it but not entirely sure how I can smoothly without causing tons of issues, but I'll try at some point.

3. I implemented this in my private build. I'll be publishing it on the "preview" version of the mod soon.

4. What exactly do you mean?

5. I've tried to fix this, it needs a custom animation, but any time I export a custom animation to zomboid it just doesn't load. The engine is *really* picky, and even following tutorials it just won't work. Thinking it's maybe my Blender version, or maybe I'm just dumb, either way I want to but actual features need to be my priority for now. Hopefully someone shows up and offers help at some point.

@MonkeyShark Okay so after I've lost two characters because I randomly stop to shit while herding zombies, I have some feedback:

1. Unless the player has the incontinence trait on, the player should not randomly shit/piss when you're on the first stage of the moodle.

2. Let us be able to clean up puddles with a rag and make it so the excrement washes away in the rain too. Doesn't make since that a pee puddle outside persists through a thunderstorm.

3. The ability to use bleach/cleaning liquid instead of just soap. I get why not being able to use just water is set because realistically you'd still smell like feces if all you did was wash them in a sink.

4. The pausing without any warning. Give us a warning. For example have our player say, "I can't hold it anymore" or something to that effect.

5. The clipping into the toilet. Previous mods like Lifestlye: Hobbies got the sitting on the toilet thing down.

It would be nice to be able to wash myself using water instead of wiping. And even If I choose not to wipe, still being able to wash myself with water before putting my underwear and pants in order to prevent the defecated effects on clothes. Also, you could improve the positioning so the player would not clip through the toilet while using it, just make it so they stand in front of and not right over it.

@MonkeyShark, I wasn't seeing the option to "wipe with _____" because it was overlapping with other parts of the vanilla UI.

@Akuma Well what'd you do lol? Is the UI difficult to understand in any way, or anything I can do to improve it?

@MonkeyShark Never mind, I figured it out lol.

@Akuma Can you answer these questions please? Or at least as many as you can:
1. What clothing item were you wearing
2. Did you have underwear or anything else that serves as clothing for your legs, like multiple layers of clothes?
3. What did you use as the wiping option, and how many of that item did you have.

For whatever reason I still get poop on my pants whenever I use the toilet. (I'm not using the "dont wipe option)

@Kaman_Mc Just got multiple cleaning item options working for clothes (also can use water with slight penalty), so I'll try to get this one working since it fits. And thank you, I've worked a lot on it, and I'm hoping to flesh out a lot more features to make it as stable and vanilla-like as I can.

Just a suggestion it would be nice to clean clothes in a washing machine great mod I love the immersion it provides

@NalMac I'll work on this next

Please let us use more than just soap to clean soiled clothes. I ran around with poo shorts on for 3 days with both bleach and cleaning liquid in my bag just because I couldn't find a single bar of soap.

Custom sounds have been replaced with loops, which properly loop on the player (not the player square like before) the entire duration of the action, rather than only when it finishes. This system will be improved soon and in the future, but this is a lot better.

Going to be published to the preview version tomorrow since it's brand new and planned to be part of 0.13.0.

Decided to create a preview version of this mod:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3529109383

From now on most updates will probably be pushed to that one temporarily before being released here. The goal is to make the main mod somewhat more stable, but obviously since Build 42 in itself is unstable, it's partly out of my control.

I *DO NOT* plan to be careless with the preview branch though, because I want to incentivize people to use it. I still need bug reports and feedback to make sure things don't break lol.

@varken I implemented them at some point but it's either a bug or the code got deleted. So its an implementation problem, not a mod conflict, I don't believe. Should be relatively easy for me to fix

@Brooke Yomotsu I don't think I've encountered this. I'll look into it as soon as possible though

@Monkeyshark thats the problem, there is no wipe option
it appeared the first time but every time after that, nothing shows anymore

Hey @MonkeyShark, one question - should I hear any sounds? I found sound files in mod folder but can't hear any sound... Sounds from other mods work without problem. Is it not implemented feature or rather mod conflict?

@Brooke Yomotsu Are you clicking on a wipe option in the dropdown

i CANNOT shit, i press the button and it does nothing

@MonkeyShark Well that sucks, from what I remember mods like excrementum from build 41 had custom animations so maybe it's something with build 42.

@SzeroQi Swal I've messed with custom animations, no matter what I try it just doesn't seem to work (exporting from Blender to Zomboid). I'll keep trying occasionally, but I'd rather work on features that I actually know how to complete lol. Also sounds, that should be happening not too far from now.

You could pee into pretty much anything if you want to so it's hard for me to give specific ideas but a piss drawer would be funny. Also one thing I'd like to say is that the mod could use a animation and sound upgrade, idk how it looks like with male characters since I don't really play with them but female characters clip throug toilets and sinks and get on one knee to pee, there also aren't really any sounds related to peeing.