You know what? Why just say that? I have devmode, lets run a quick test. Fully upgraded Mule. Fully upgraded Wagon. A Nomad. And an upgraded Bang Bus. For transporting a decent amount of pawns over rough terrain, lets put one pawn in each and have them all race to a destination.

And... Traveling the same route, the Nomad and Mule pulled ahead of the pack, leaving the Bang Bus and Wagon behind. An upgraded tier 1 being equal to a tier 3 over rough terrain doesn't quite sound right...

I hope we get these for tier 2. It sort of feels like you want to caravan around adventuring in a tier 1 that has off-road tires to get around faster then a tier 2 that doesn't, even if it has better fuel efficiency.

I have the mats, but noone will work on it? Cant manually have them do it either. No errors.

I cannot replicate the problem you had @veryinky which of the turrets did you put on your mule.

It seems to have been reported in the bug report discussions here. Apparently Phil has a fix for it in the dev-version of the vehicle framework and it seems to be related to the turret upgrade on the highwayman.
The Mule issue may be seperate.

I also had my upgraded highwayman lose reference to itself and throw errors for every second of frame generation. The car still had visuals but would no longer turn and the turret did not work nor did it show up in the caravan screen.
It seems this mod does not survive saving and loading. The car has the name and color it should have and even looks to remember the upgrades but somehow still loses its reference.

It really does seem like this mod must hate the Highwayman

This is an issue ive experienced with the Highwayman aswell, I just stopped using it- But yeah, for some reason it sometimes deletes itself.

Highwaymen completely disappeared something about broken references and when I reloaded a save it was like it never existed

Yep, same. Works fine while you play but doesn't save. Throws a bunch of red exception errors on loading, "[VehicleFramework] Unable to unlock Vehicles.CompUpgradeTree post-load for Mule. Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object". New game, started on fresh install on august 3rd , with Harmony,
Vehicle Framework, Vanilla Vehicles Expanded and Vanilla Vehicles Expanded - Upgrades. Built a Mule, gave it a full upgrade (except for the external engine which has great stats but looks silly), did a test run to a nearby settlement to trade and saved. Today I load and it's giving me errors and the Mule has the same appearance and base stats.

Also happens to me, having the upgrades on vehicles doesn't stick around after a reload, and if you remove the upgrades to then try and upgrade them again, you're just left with the same values, so you're kinda just nerfing your vehicles instead of upgrading them, when you reload.

@Polyethyleneglykol - Can confirm, this keeps happening to my Mule's for some reason, havent had it happen to anything else yet

In 1.6 upgrading a vehicle and then reloading a save has a high chance to brick the vehicle and anyone anthing inside, multiple different vehicles all reported broken on the main discord.
So beware using this for now.

The Louie doesnt have a customization tab

I would love an upgrade for smth like "retractable seats" or some kind of camper upgrade that allows pawns to use vehicles as a place to sleep, allowing for either a minor mood buff or negation of travel/sleeping outdoors when doing things like long distance resource mining

Can there be an option to make the cargo expansion upgrade be a percentage of the cargo instead of just a flat amount? Especially helpful/significant when you're playing with CE and thus have to deal with the ammo needed.

What ammo does the turret on the Prowler accept?

Hi not sure if this goes here or somewhere else but my reform vehicle caravan gizmo does not appear when i want to return to my base from another map tile any help would be great.

hi, is it possible to revert "Customize" tab to "Upgrade" ? it doesnt look near on me since the text nearly going out from box UI

is the Roadkill Tier1 tank supposed to unlock shotting whioel moving witht he extra gunner seat?
becaus eit seem to not work if you upgrade canon next or before

Thanks Oskar!

Sounds like a bug with Vehicles Framework.

Just built a highwayman, do not have the option to click the "Upgrade" button for any of the major upgrades. Anyone know what's up here? Are there secret mystery prerequisites?

too bad we cant contact the mod creator easily to know if they will ever continues their mods...

That line is also dictated by time, take a look at the old Wave Survival mod made by Justin back in 2016, does it say on the mod that its dead? No, but it hasn't been updated for an incredibly long time, which makes it quite clear its dead. The same applies here, this mod is half-finished and has been that way for nearly a year at this point with no updates except one incredibly small one that only served to make it marked as 1.6 compatible. And it should be concerning that the dev team would rather keep pumping out large mods than finish ones that have been left unfinished.

MI-28 Havocsader I think that line is dictated by the mod authors and whether or not they consider the mod dead. I dunno if you've taken a look at their workshop, but they have a lot of very big mods being maintained at the same time and they're always adding more. It doesn't shock me that smaller mods like this would be put on hold for some time while bigger ones get worked on.

Any chance we could get a odyssey shuttle upgrade pack standalone?

After selecting a mod, the character will not be able to complete this task. I don't know if this is a bug or a conflict with other mods, is anyone like me?

Theres a line between taking a while to cook and outright abandoning the mod, at this point the mod is abandoned as for nearly a year now it has received no updates, the most recent "update" doesn't add any content or fix any bugs, it's only there to make Rimworld see it as 1.6 compatible.

@qwe5n have you thought that, perhaps, they are just focused on other mods and will one day return to this? The VET always warn when a mod is gonna be discontinued, at this point its just being petty for the sake of being petty. Let the team cook in peace.

its also weird that no other modder decided to use the base of this mod for their own vehicles.

I think it was this mod that lets me put a gun in the bed of the starter truck. I put a heavy machine gun on the beds to make it a technical, but it says it has no ammo? And it doesn't say what type of ammo it takes?

@GhostLiner Well as you can read in the description of this mod, its not finished. We're still waiting for the remaining Tier 1 and Tier 2 upgrades. But this mod hasn't been updated for 10 months and 1 day, counting from the latest update of August, 30th

@GhostLiner We're calling it dead since its not finished (Multiple vehicles they said would get upgrades but haven't) and hasn't been updated/touched for nearly 11 months now

but you cant access 1.5?

Ayooo why are people calling this mod dead, it works perfectly fine

Its defo dead, mfw when the mod creators lie about it not being dead and they're just busy

@Oskar Potocki its been 10 months without an update. in your message from 21st february you said that this mod is in a good place. is it discontinued?

man, I wish there was like. a major modification for some wheeled vehicles to make them have improvised tracks.. i wanna have an awesome uparmored car with tracks instead of wheels

Yeah it defo is

sadly this mod seems dead

how many minor upgrades can i do in a vehicle?

quci question but how DO i upgrade a vehicle? I selected the upgrade and delivered the materials, but i cant order my pawns to actualy do the work. Am i missing something? If not then i have to look into a mod conflict (somehow)

Aww man, I just deconstructed my fully upraded T1 Mule to make T2 Roadrunner only to find out theres no upgrades for it :(

Yeah I'd say so, the devs tried to claim they're still working on this but at this point its safe to say they lied

8 months without updates. Is this mod discontinued?

It would be cool if there was a faction that used vehicles just roaming around the world raiding at random.

Wish I could highlight things on the map and click on the vehicle to load. Example. Bug raid -using the insect mod- and I want to load the corpses on a truck to haul more efficiently.

@qwe5n Oh, I didn't know that. Moxie may have meant that too. I haven't ran the numbers since it would be tedious to do. I really wish there was a spreadsheet for these vehicles already to save me the effort.

@|_| Clyax, you may have misunderstood me. I meant fully upgraded Mule - all major (offroad tires, expanded cargo, exterior engine and big chemtanks) and minor upgrades, except more armor upgrades. If fully upgraded, it still costs less, but is way more efficient