@Drakli i have them set up like good-aligned pandas rn. downy deers will only graze downy grass and bubble bears will only graze bubble bulbs

Say, I've run into an odd situation. Downy Deer and Bubble Bears are listed as grazers, but I've had instances where pasturing either of them, even in grassy/floor-fungal fields has resulted in starvation. Is that unusual?

I did look it up, and apparently there are some ants who can reproduce separate from a queen if they don't have an existing one in the colony.

@bluhspizo If it helps, you can open up the mod's txt files and get at the info if you want.

@ryno True, eggs would be more accurate, but I'm just glad they can reproduce so I can tame them and let loose the ants of war! Honestly, when I first caught them, I was mostly afraid that they wouldn't be able to reproduce because of there being no ant queen.

@bluhspizo theres no wiki type thing of any kind for the mod, i feel that most details can just be assumed bc theres nothing complex going on but a basic wiki would probably be more ideal. happy to add the greys, not sure how faithful they are to the real world lore on them but i included some stuff here and there. they constantly sweat grime in the mod, lol

Not sure if you've answered this before, but is there a list of where all the creatures spawn? Also, I remember suggesting the greys, so its cool to see them.

oh yeah i guess they would probably lay eggs... im just gonna assume they currently arent lol. if you like it that way though im happy to avoid changing it

Thank you for giant ants... and letting them reproduce, even if it isn't how ants usually work.. I have big dreams of turning my fort into a huge colony of pet ants and their dwarfy friends.

@Peutros i made it harmless on purpose

@doug i dont believe fertilization is a moddable thing, i can only say whether they have eggs or not. once i give them eggs its just gonna use the universal egg system. and i didnt really even go that far, all of their traits are copied automatically from their non-giant versions with no need for me to explicitly define anything other than a simple increase in body size

My dwarves got infected with spores and they count as thralls now but... that doesn't seem to have any particular negative effects? They don't count as undead nor hostiles like with regular thralls, I wonder if its intended?

Any chance you could check on the chance to fertilize giant cave crocodile eggs? ive got 100 eggs actively in nestboxes, and another 200 in a stockpile from previous attempts that refuse to be fertilized. I've been tryin for the last 3 years with 2 different breeding pairs but had no luck

@doug righteous yeah pretty much

all ents are burn on sight

A barrel man ran into my fort, chugged my ale, and punched my war dog to death 10/10 mod

@CocoBat hopefully nothing broke, and if something did hopefully someone will tell me :3

but yea theres gonna be more content added to the mod in the future i just been workin on other things and waiting (endlessly it seems) for animal people equipment graphics so that i can finally do my big animal people expansion patch

I'd not expected another update soon, the prefix is much appreciated.

I didn't read the description thoroughly before installing, and the fungal infections gave me quite a fright! I saw the giant spores floating around underground and figured touching the dust was a bad idea, but I didn't expect my dwarves to start transforming. Kind of fascinating.

@mrmistophelees :)

@ryno Hey, just wanted to say thanks again for a mod that feels interesting and unique. About the fungal stuff, I think it's an interesting idea and there is a place for that story for some people. It just feels a little too inevitable since there's no cure and it's really everywhere underground. And perhaps most importantly, I think players tend to get attached to the character they created in adventure mode, and then having it transform into a thrall seems kind of heartbreaking, although functionally, it hasn't changed the game play.
But I don't want to understate the fact that you put your heart and soul into the mod, and we really appreciate it! Thanks so much!

sounds pretty unholy. also while im here i would like to mention that ive been distracted by a new mod that has been taking most of my time. MVC will receive minimal new content in the meanwhile. and the next time i patch it ill probably just remove things if anything, such as the fungal infectors

I just came to say that the recent Elf invasion came with a Minecart person couple ridding matching war grizzly mounts, and that is very neat and funny.

@BoriSama someone made a mod that removes all the terrible things: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3302744089

Is there a way to remove this fungal infection from the mod? I really don't want to "clean units" every time from fear that all my dorfs transforms into ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I had to load a previous save because, suddenly, half my fortress was infected and transforming

all apologies for the fungal infection stuff in general

Whew... got it. Turns out, the clean function did not remove the actual syndrome I had. For those who want to remove that pesky spore syndrome, here is the command in dfHack:
modtools/add-syndrome -eraseAll -target 13525 -syndrome 252
Where -target [unit id]
To get your unit id, select your unit and type: lua print(unit.id)
Also note, the mod actually has three fungus-like syndromes, depending on which one you caught. The id for them all is 252, 253, 254.

@ryno In a previous reply, you mentioned you could remove the fungal infection with dfHack. Since I was unaware of the problem of fungal infections before I started my world, I was infected in adventure mode a long time ago. Now, my save game is at the point where my dwarf turns into a fungal thrall in a few more turns. I downloaded dfhack to try to prevent this catastrophe, but have not been able to change fate. I have used the cleaners command [clean units] to remove contaminants, [full-heal] to remove wounds and stuff, [clean items] to remove the fungal spores from all my items, and even opened up [gm-units] to completely remove an "unknown" wound off my character. I've saved the game and reloaded. And yet my dwarf STILL turns into a thrall the next time I fast travel and then look at him again.
Could you explain exactly how I could prevent this from happening, if it's possible?
Thank you for such an interesting mod!

@Drakli thats wonderful

I've got some good news! I removed FB's Revised Wildlife" from the incompatibility list on info and tested the two mods together, and no errors cropped up! Looks like whatever caused the conflict may no longer be a factor.

Absolutely fair, I'll look into it from here!

@Drakli it was so long ago i have no idea but feel free to just go into the info.txt and remove the line that prevents them from being loaded together and see what happens

How does "FB's Revised Wildlife" conflict with "More Vanilla Creatures," please? I'm interested in FB's mod but I don't want to give up your cool creatures!

Giant Bugbat looks great :-D and blobs are so cute :-)

Actually, forget about that theory regarding Biodiversity Booster... I've created a world using just BDB, MVC, and the compatch and embarks seem perfectly normal, nothing strange spawning with embark.

Hello. Does this mod increase the chanced to embark Minecart Men & Women? It seems like about 90% of the time (if not more) I'll embark with them in addition to my standard 7 dwarves. Also does this mod take the savagery of biomes into account when determining pets during embarkation? I seem to embark with Owlcats fairly often. I looked through my other mods to see if any of them added "use_any_pet_race" to Dwarves and I came up with nada. Could it be the Biodiversity Booster-MVC compatch making me spawn with the aforementioned creatures as often as I am?

@Aceituno wonderful

I'm enjoying you mod a lot. The goblins bringed up in their last siege a bunch of giant creeping eyes and also some tendrils dogs. They look really nice although I think the giant eyes just left the battle and didn't fight. I'll guess they didn't... saw an easy fight and just run away

https://i.postimg.cc/fzMr1bRB/1.png

Thanks ryno

@Levvy you mean like upon embark theyre all just available now? it wouldnt be this mod doing that, but if you have some other mod that adds use_any_pet_race to the dwarven entity that might do it

So, on my most recent save it seems like Dwarves have somehow managed to domesticate all the new cavern creatures...

amazing pixelwork, you clearly had a lot of fun making these!

@Moonwarden64 ok ill nerf them on the next version

although I do have "skilled animals and megabeasts"

Eye-bats seem really op, two of them just killed a war trained giant cave crocodille I had

@Hawara the threat of a fungal takeover seemed like a sorely missing thing in the game, so i did those but most people seem to agree that its just bad

What's going on with the Fungi spore balls that infect everything? What does this do, what does it mean? Can you get rid of that?

Love the new update, my favorite is the giant bugbat, I really like the way you sprited its head, it looks like a mantid

Oh derp, I'm misremembering I guess. You can totally ignore me. It was just the Mimic when I looked again. Regardless, super impressed with the mod!

@eqN tell me more about these non existing creatures you speaketh of

Interesting! I noticed a lot of similarly DOES_NOT_EXIST creatures. Super impressive how much is already put together! Thank you for the excellent mod!

@eqN oh thats for all the new animal people that i made for version 5.6 before eventually putting them aside and 5.6 became something else. i forgot to remove that creature_variation from the files, it will be utilized for future content, just not by anything quite yet

May I ask, what is the purpose of ANIMAL_PERSON_BUGFIXED Variations?
I don't see them actually applied to anything.